[jimmydean]

If Newt is this pissed off, Obama must be doing something right. At least it's a war I have no issue supporting.

link.

In response that Catholic hospitals must provide free contraception.

"The fact is what you're saying is there cannot be a genuine Catholic hospital," said Gingrich, who converted to Catholicism in 2009. "It will have to be subordinated to a secular government."

Gingrich, also appearing today on CBS's "Face the Nation," added that the policy proved that the Obama administration was at "war" with the Catholic church and launching "the most outrageous assault on religious freedom in American history."

The former House speaker said policies such as this prove that Obama is "so unacceptable" that he will support his rival Mitt Romney in the general election if the former Massachusetts governor is the Republican nominee.

This along with his vow to repeal all anti-religious Obama policies BEFORE they go to any party after he wins make for interesting times ahead.

 

[jonKranked]

newt doesn't like separation of church and state, just like he doesn't like separation of mashed potatoes and his fork

 

[rockofullr]

Gasp!

Newt will support Romney after he wins the nomination? That is quite a threat.

Edit:

http://universenumberfive.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/newt-gingrich-rally-in-las-vegas-interrupted-by-local-grindcore-band-2/

A rally for Republican Party nominee Newt Gingrich in Las Vegas on Thursday morning was interrupted by local Nevada grindcore band Traumatic Anal Devastation.

 

[JohnE]

So providing free contraception enabling grown adults to pick the time and partner that they have children with, thus ensuring that they can be the best, most prepared parents they can be, is an adult on freedom?

 

[blackohio]

I love that i've yet to encounter anyone on here who is going to vote for one of these assholes.

 

[JohnE]

Now that Hello Kitty is gone...we still have Stinkle tho.

 

[jonKranked]

Gasp!

Newt will support Romney after he wins the nomination? That is quite a threat.

Edit:

http://universenumberfive.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/newt-gingrich-rally-in-las-vegas-interrupted-by-local-grindcore-band-2/

they did get a pretty accurate description of grindcore.

 

[Pesqueeb]

So providing free contraception enabling grown adults to pick the time and partner that they have children with, thus ensuring that they can be the best, most prepared parents they can be, is an adult on freedom?

I'm going to assume you meant "assult on freedom", and say "duh!". It is according to the catholic church. How dare you think for yourself, thats the work of the devil!

 

[jimmydean]

Next they will want to give Catholic priests free contraception!

 

[jimmydean]

And the hits keep coming.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/media-research-center-blasts-networks-not-covering-obama-150745021.html

The Media Research Center says the networks have failed to report on the Obama administration's decision to require church-affiliated employers to cover birth control, while coverage of the Susan G. Komen Foundation's defunding of Planned Parenthood has dominated the airwaves.

Brent Bozell, head of MRC, sent letters to the news division presidents of the aforementioned networks demanding coverage of the administration's "Catholic attack,"and calling the network's "obsession" with the Komen story "glaring."

"The double standard is clear for all to see," Bozell wrote. "You are ignoring the attack on the freedom of religion by the Obama administration, but coming to the aid of Planned Parenthood because you agree with them."

 

[ALEXIS_DH]

So providing free contraception enabling grown adults to pick the time and partner that they have children with, thus ensuring that they can be the best, most prepared parents they can be, is an adult on freedom?

yes, because thats not for humans to decide.. its up to babye jesus to decide how many kids youll have...

 

[dante]

Next they will want to give Catholic priests free contraception!

Altar boys can't get pregnant...

 

[jimmydean]

Altar boys can't get pregnant...

But I was told condoms protect you from catching the ghey?

 

[JohnE]

I'm going to assume you meant "assult on freedom", and say "duh!". It is according to the catholic church. How dare you think for yourself, thats the work of the devil!

Doh! Adult, assault...they are both words. With letters and stuff.

 

[JohnE]

And the hits keep coming.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/media-research-center-blasts-networks-not-covering-obama-150745021.html

I would say that the assault on freedom of religion is being led by the Catholic Church...their agents seek to restrict the religious freedoms of, and force their employees to live by their twisted altar boy shagging codes.

 

[jimmydean]

Doh! Adult, assault...they are both words. With letters and stuff.

I am totally an Adult on Freedom, though.

 

[dante]

Wait, the Health Care Reform law requires that employers offer contraception with zero co-pay? I totally missed that when it was being debated, that'll save us ~$300/year in co-pays for the wife's contraception.

THANK YOU Republicans for bringing this up, as I wouldn't have even known about it if you hadn't made such a big (fake) outrage over it.

 

[Beef Supreme]

they did get a pretty accurate description of grindcore.

This would be a fitting soundtrack for those Westboro Baptist a-holes.

 

[stevew]

what is so hard about not buying a carton of smokes or a case of beer and buying your own condoms?

 

[Pesqueeb]

what is so hard about not buying a carton of smokes or a case of beer and buying your own condoms?

Why do you hate Jeebus?

 

[pnj]

Wait, the Health Care Reform law requires that employers offer contraception with zero co-pay?

Is this true? And if it is, wouldn't a extremely religious person just not use it? Way back when I had dental insurance but didn't need it, I just didn't use it. I was not offended at all that they offered it to me....

 

[dante]

Is this true? And if it is, wouldn't a extremely religious person just not use it? Way back when I had dental insurance but didn't need it, I just didn't use it. I was not offended at all that they offered it to me....

Yup. And the righties are whining about how Catholic-affiliated organizations will have to pay for the insurance plan that provides it. So Cathlic churches are still exempt, but say... St. Jude Medical Hospital will have to provide it, or the local Catholic high school. Basically organizations that are affiliated with the Catholic church but aren't actually providing religious services doesn't get an exemption.

I just can't see how this is going to help the right-wingers... They're trying to claim that it's a religious freedom issue, but it's far more of a women's health issue. McCain lost the female vote by 14 points to Obama, and I don't think that making a huge deal out of this is going to help the Republicans by any means.

 

[pnj]

The crazy christian's that I know don't care about women's rights. The man is in charge and it's the females role to OBEY. It's OK to spend billions of $$$ to kill humans on another continent but to take a child from the womb IS A SIN!!!!

Infact, it's the lesbians, hippies, gays, rock music, etc that are DESTROYING the foundation of America. I grew up in a religious family......

I don't think their brains function correctly.

 

[dante]

And none of them were going to vote for Obama anyway....

 

[pnj]

I haven't had coffee yet.....

They would never vote for a non-white person. Jesus was white, duh....

 

[Jeremy R]

Wait, the Health Care Reform law requires that employers offer contraception with zero co-pay? I totally missed that when it was being debated, that'll save us ~$300/year in co-pays for the wife's contraception.

No, it just means that you will pay $300 more in premium to have it covered.
You will still be getting f***ed to F***, just in a slightly different position.

 

[rockofullr]

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/09/santorum-obama-leading-christians-to-the-guillotine/

They are taking faith and crushing it. Why? When you marginalize faith in America, when you remove the pillar of God-given rights then what’s left is the French Revolution. What’s left is a government that gives you rights. What’s left are no unalienable rights. What’s left is a government that will tell you who you are, what you’ll do and when you’ll do it. What’s left in France became the the guillotine.

Guillotines for all!

 

[dante]

Lol, hyperbole much? What's funny is that religious organizations already *are* subjected to federal and state law. Just try to open a completely deregulated Blessed St. Mary's Nuclear Power Plant and see what the fed does...

 

[pnj]

WTF is a god given right?

 

[Pesqueeb]

WTF is a god given right?

Moar gunz!

 

[DaveW]

WTF is a god given right?

Well according to the Catholics.... Small boys.

 

[?????]

If they are exempt from paying to provide birth control that they think they won't use, then I should be exempt from paying for all the silly bombs, weapons and anything else that I decide I don't approve of. Religious groups should be treated like any other business. I'm so tired of religious groups feeling that they are above the law because of what some higher power tells them.

 

[eric strt6]

Well according to the Catholics.... Small boys.

 

[Silver]

Guillotines for all!

Don't tempt me...

 

[Westy]

I haven't had coffee yet.....

They would never vote for a non-white person. Jesus was white, duh....

For a religion based on virgin birth and zombies, a white Jesus is pretty easy to believe. At least there aren't aliens and magic rocks involved.

 

[Pesqueeb]

Making hay:

In fact, employers have pretty much been required to provide contraceptive coverage as part of their health plans since December 2000. That's when the federal Equal Employment Opportunity Commission ruled that failure to provide such coverage violates the 1978 Pregnancy Discrimination Act. That law is, in turn, an amendment to Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, which outlaws, among other things, discrimination based on gender.


Here's how the EEOC put it at the time: "The Commission concludes that Respondents' exclusion of prescription contraceptives violates Title VII, as amended by the Pregnancy Discrimination Act, whether the contraceptives are used for birth control or for other medical purposes."

But it's not only the EEOC that has ruled on the issue. More than half the states have similar "contraceptive equity" laws on the books, many with religious exceptions similar or identical to the one included in the Administration's regulation.

That's no accident. "The HHS rule was modeled on the exceptions in several state laws, including California, New York, and Oregon," says Lipton-Lubet of the ACLU.

There are now lawsuits challenging the constitutionality of the policy, including a new one filed on behalf of the religious television network EWTN. But the exemptions have already been tested in court, at least at the state level.

In 2004, the California Supreme Court upheld that state's law, in a suit brought by Catholic Charities, on a vote of 6-1.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/02/10/146662285/rules-requiring-contraceptive-coverage-have-been-in-force-for-years

 

[kidwoo]

One step forward, one step back

http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/10/politics/contraception-controversy/index.html

The White House has settled on a compromise in the dispute over whether to require full contraception insurance coverage for female employees at religiously affiliated institutions, a source has told CNN.

The administration will expand the religious exemption for religiously affiliated universities and hospitals, the source said. Individuals will be able to get contraceptive coverage directly from insurers.

 

[dante]

Eh, I'd say a half-step back:

The president will instead demand that insurance companies, rather than religious-affiliated institutions, take the lead in enrolling employees for the birth control benefit and covering the cost. Catholic advocates had argued that placing the requirement on employers would abridge free speech rights.

Insurance company offers "contraception-free health care plan" for religious institutions, probably at almost identical cost as their "contraception-included health care plan", and then provides contraception for "free" to workers at religiously-affiliated organizations. So female workers at these organizations still get free contraception and religious organizations can sleep well knowing that they're not "officially" paying for it (unless it's in one of the 28 states that mandate coverage)... win-win for everyone!

What's more, since this affects ALL religious organizations, now it looks like it's a way for women who work directly for churches will have access to free birth control as well, where they didn't before this "compromise".

Huh. Maybe this "Obama" guy is smarter than people give him credit for.

edit: Also found this in the politico story.

NARAL Pro-Choice America praised the shift, calling it “a reaffirmation of the commitment to ensuring contraceptive coverage,” but warned against efforts to cut back on access to contraceptives.

 

[kidwoo]

He does seem to be refining his obama dance.............

 

[ohio]

He does seem to be refining his obama dance.............

But will it be enough to win back Obama Girl?