So can you understand what was said in the ad that started this thread?
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From translations - text - are you new to the internet?
Stray-cat? You listening to this? Internet translation is funny.
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I know eh? Burly has certainly softened over the years...right around the time that the "Surly" got changed to "Shirley"...Hmmmmmmmm.....
Can you translate it or even interpret it (that's easier)? Thought not.
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You make no sense. But I can get you an English transcript if you want. Do you have trouble with the text in English?
Interesting stuff, thank you for the link. Further research proved two assertions in this thread: both lower income and highly educated citizens vote Democrat. What does this prove? Nothing in of itself.
Now if only we can get the general population to stop marginalizing the opinions of the well-educated.
Sigh. Being liberal-leaning doesn't mean they are indoctrinating our youth, nor does it mean they are closed to debate, just as being conservative leaning doesn't mean any of those things for the remaining 25%. It just means that they are more liberal - which taken at it's true definition means they are more open to change from the status quo. Given that academia's role is to be thought leaderships and make new discoveries, one would expect them to be more forward-thinking (or "liberal") than the general population. This means that more often their thinking will be too radical for the general public, and they will be wrong more often than the general public.
i beg to differ sir ohio. from my experience as the middle of the road conservative in an extreme left environment, i was often not-allowed to bring up any points for debate because my life experience as a marine and cop voided me of having a legitimate opinion in the classroom. for instance, in a course on restorative justice i was cut off when i brought up the fact that i am a cop assigned to the projects where i see, in real life, what these people are faced with. i was told that my opinion was biased and therefore void because i had brought up a side of the argument that the professor was unwilling to deal with. my arguments weren't some kind of right wing rhetoric either, just observations i have made while working amongst the very demographic we were discussing..something the professor has never done, in any capacity.
that was just one of several occurrences where the faculty's assumption that i was a right wing nutjob because of my profession and military past that i was not given any respect in classroom debates. the younger students would even bring up the fact that they wanted to hear what i had to say.
to sum up. i do feel that these professors are attempting to "indoctrinate" our youth with their world view. I learned a lot about the oppressive systems at work in this country by attending this school but i also learned that, at least where i attend, contradictory points of view and facts are not welcome. being liberal and "open-minded" is only acceptable if your mind is open in their direction.
oh well, i go back in january to finish my last 4 classes and i'm out of that quaker looney-bin forever.
A sample size of one crazy professor and one cop = invalid. Fail.
would you like me to scan in all of the papers that have been marked down for my "opinion" or perhaps i can make everyones eyes bleed by typing all of the "several occurrences" i mentioned? will that be enough for you mr. fail or do i "fail" no matter what i type because you're a whiney cop hater?
syadasti having an objective opinion = fail
That would be kind of cool actually.
If you're willing to do it, I'd certainly be willing to read it.
Although I still agree with syadasti, it might make sense of some of your professor hating.
Keep on working at your education, you really need it 
I could reference example of my relative from Georgia.
He's a retired 30 year veteran from law enforcement and he worked undercover. He has much more experience in police work than you. His wife still works in law enforcement.
He frequently tells some good stories and tells us you often can't trust police.
That would be an outlier like yourself and the professor and wouldn't prove anything.
I could reference example of my relative from Georgia.
He's a retired 30 year veteran from law enforcement and he worked undercover. He has much more experience in police work than you. His wife still works in law enforcement.
He frequently tells some good stories and tells us you often can't trust police.
That would be an outlier like yourself and the professor and wouldn't prove anything.
OK... Who hacked into BS's account and started posting liberal remarks?
Not that I disapprove, but this isn't the Burley I'm used to!!
i'll see if i can dig one up that's half-way interesting.
don't get me wrong about why i "professor hate"; most of my professors were good people who did their job by encouraging critical thinking but there were enough, over 4 years, who went out of their way to keep me from influencing the traditional students to make me skeptical about the true intentions of "higher education."
Without knowing how you typically conducted yourself in class other than insisting you be allowed to bring your firearm, it's tough to be objective. That's kind of why I want to see the paper(s). It's one thing to quiet down rabble rousers
in class but if it is something that actually affects your grades, then maybe you have reason to whine. Not that I'd disagree with syadasti either way, I just want to see what you're referring to regarding your actual grading.
Without knowing how you typically conducted yourself in class other than insisting you be allowed to bring your firearm, it's tough to be objective. That's kind of why I want to see the paper(s). It's one thing to quiet down rabble rousers
You want to verify they weren't written in crayon and the E's and N's were all facing the correct direction?
It would be funny if it was written like the opening chapters of Flowers for Algernon....
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I've certainly had my share of professors that are... like you describe I guess, but I wouldn't even go so far as to suggest that it's some kind of institutional mandate, let alone as far as you've gone, saying that the entire collegiate education system in the US is somehow conspiring to mold all students into "liberals." That's some Changleen-level nonsense right there.
Fact of the matter is you've got a hell of a lot professors who grew up in the 60's, who are now educated and teaching... they're going to make their opinions known. Some are poor educators who react inappropriately to people who differ in ideology. The vast, vast majority are just not this way though.
Waaaaiiiiiit a second.....you mean it's NOT COMPLETELY one way or COMPLETELY the other???
That's liberal hippie-talk you hippie...
smart =/= wise
with the assumption you mean rural/redneck, let me then follow with this: why do so many urban poor vote dem? seems to me there's an enabling (and borderline negligent) attitude going on. i'm all for taking care of the little man, but not for keeping the man little.
just a thought.
but he's still the original sh|t stirrier & strong in his roots. he just wanders from bathhouse to duckblind in search of his new groove. can't fault the man for that.
Yeah Im not going to disagree that some of the attitude, and 'handout' programs perpetuate a lack of initiative for upward mobility...for instance, almost nothing pisses me off more than seeing cable TV lines strung throughout section 8, because whoever pays for it shouldn't be spending money that way. There was program started here in TN recently to supply the poor with free cell phones with some amount of free minutes per month... these things are luxuries and as far as Im concerned, society should not be burdened with providing those. And like I said, I agree it rewards people for doing nothing, thereby stifling any need for initiative.
But then again I feel society should take a vested interest in motivating these people... if for no other reason than that it's probably cheaper in the longrun to just educate them and get them in the workforce than it is to simply support them.
Anyway, as far as suddenly being labeled a "liberal" here... I get called a redneck and a hippy both on a daily basis on this site and occasionally in person. I laugh at racist jokes and I donate money to environmental causes on occasion, I like guns AND mexicans... I don't feel the need to really be consistent, I just call them like I see them. Sure my stances on some things have changed over the years but that's just the way it's gone. Not like I had this liberal epiphany one day.
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Yeah we call it "first time buttseks" too.
your a fag
the latest "lie" from the mccain camp:
to which the obama camp responds with
to which the obama camp responds with
however inconvenient, the washington post had this to say back in july
i am curious to see if toshi's post will be updated for accuracy ("honor" be damned)
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/09/obamas_fannie_mae_connection.html
Washington Post's fact checker says the claim isn't true. Honor be damned indeed.
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the fact checker didn't say it wasn't true, he said, "I have asked both Raines and the Obama people for more details on these calls and will let you know if I receive a reply.". to me, it looks like they could clear all this up & get serious mileage out of mccain being a "liar". i'm guessing raines will get back to the washpo fact-checker about the same time palin testifies in troopergate.
obama's a smart guy, so it will be curious to see if he lets this one go or puts it to rest. ball's clearly in his court.
obama's a smart guy, so it will be curious to see if he lets this one go or puts it to rest. ball's clearly in his court.
McCain is making it out to be that Raines is a close economic adviser for Obama, which isn't looking to be true.
It is misleading and dishonest.
another "shocking" ad depicting mccain as "more of the same"
the ad doesn't reveal it (but an AP story does), but the corning plant made "glass tubes for television sets and computer monitors."
what's to close next if mccain is in charge? walkman assembly plants?
the ad doesn't reveal it (but an AP story does), but the corning plant made "glass tubes for television sets and computer monitors."
what's to close next if mccain is in charge? walkman assembly plants?
Your link goes to a story about Biden being allowed to talk, not about the ad.
edit: here's one about it http://www.wetmtv.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=ba3fc702-938a-4760-af0d-9ea147e5018f
The point the ad is trying to make is still valid though
edit: here's one about it http://www.wetmtv.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=ba3fc702-938a-4760-af0d-9ea147e5018f
The point the ad is trying to make is still valid though
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If you were a rich black man would you trust a white man with your money?
found another aggregation of the original AP article (since removed by black helo, apparently): http://www.examiner.com/a-1592469~Obama_ad_highlights_closure_of_Pa__TV_tube_plant.html
but i still don't follow how the point the ad is trying to make as being valid. especially given this:
is there a nuance i'm not getting?