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Obtainium, do they still make springs?

Discussion in 'Downhill & Freeride' started by Christiaan, Nov 1, 2010.

  1. Christiaan

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    Anyone know if Obtainium still makes Ti coil springs? The UK distributor hasn't received springs in ages, and can't say when and if they will receive any in the future.
     
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  2. IH8Rice

    IH8Rice I'm Mr. Negative! I Fail!

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    just call DSP and be over with it.

    its been over a year since ive had contact with that schmo at Obtanium. he hasnt replied to emails and or phone calls.....DSP has been great though :thumb::thumb:
     
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    He contacted you?
    I have never had the experience of communication with obtanium
     
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  4. IH8Rice

    IH8Rice I'm Mr. Negative! I Fail!

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    i called a year ago and apparently it rings to his cell phone. he didnt answer it like it was a business, just a simple "hello" and springs will be another "2 weeks," but he wasnt exactly sure.followed up with emails and phone calls, but nothing.

    i called DSP and within 1 minute, he told me price and availability.
     
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  5. mtg

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    I emailed Obtainium a week or two ago and have yet to hear any reply = I'm not ordering from them.
     
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    Just talked to the them they have changed business name to Unobtainium

     
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    Wow, Why would anyone not want to deal with you?

    :rolleyes:
     
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  8. zdubyadubya

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    Another HUGE thumbs up to Fadi over at DSP. :thumb::thumb::thumb:

    been dealin with him for two years now for springs for myself, riding buddies, and customers. GREAT service, excellent availability, and spot on spring rates. Not quite as light as obtainium from what I heard, but who cares....
     
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    do you realize you are posting on ridemonkey? :thumb:
     
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  10. IH8Rice

    IH8Rice I'm Mr. Negative! I Fail!

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    i guess my order for 3 Ti springs wasnt significant enough. :rolleyes:
     
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    Another vote for Diverse Suspension Products!

    You can even see if the spring is in stock on their web site. Amazing this internet technology stuff! :D
     
  12. cubebiker

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    But those DSP Ti springs are heavier than NukeProofs and Obtainiums...
     
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    How sure are you about the nukeproof?
    Nukeproof springs always seem pretty low quality and weighty to me.
     
  14. IH8Rice

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    which is why i wanted a obtanium
    i would have dropped 290(ish) grams over the steel CC counterpart, but still saved 175 with the DSP.
     
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    But you should know that Obtainium springs have the magic to shave a extra 5 to 6g off their actual weight,so you end up with a even ligther Obtainium spring:D

    Now try that with a Nukeproof & DSP:rofl:
     
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  16. Christiaan

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    ideally I need a 325 x 3.0 spring, so Obtainium was the only option, or are there others? It also needs to fit a CCDB, I may be able to get away with a 300 spring
     
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    Not sure what's going on over there, I ordered a set of their special shock bearings last July and after about 10 weeks of chasing that order with countless emails, many of which were never acknowledged, I finally got them. Definitely not a confidience building experiance. They seem to have good products but are not very adept at running a business, too bad.
     
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    Well I have a 500x3 here and its weight is 402 grams. The DSP ist to be around 500.
    I have had several nukeproofs and quality was never an issue. They are always the exakt length and seem not to wear faster than others.

    Does anybody know who produces ti springs for cane creek? They look like RCS which are by far the heaviest ones...
     
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    Since when are Ti springs called low quality:confused:,thougth they where a luxury item with a huge weight savings over a steel spring.
     
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    Have you tried BOS? They only do steel springs but they do em in 25lbs/in increments from what I recall.
     
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    You get different qualitys of Titanium - The nuke proof ones seem low quality and high in weight (for a ti spring) compared to RCS or manitou etc
     
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    Speaking of which, do Manitou or Progressive still make Ti springs? They always seemed to be lightest I thought..
     
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    No, they stopped ordering them back in 2008 for stock to sell under their brand name. I know back when I was riding for Obtainium (2008-2009), Jim was looking to supply Manitou and a few other companies with his springs, but guess it never worked out. Obtainium is a very small business owned by a much larger Spring Company that builds high end springs for the Aero Space Industry. I am sure they saw the market was not as big as they wanted and maybe looking to get out of the MTB business or putting it on the back burner. I am not really sure about that as it's been a while since I last spoke to Jim. He is a great guy and was really stoked on what he was doing. He really likes the MTB scene, but at the end of the day if the $$'s are not there you have to rethink things.

    Cecil
     
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    Hey man,

    Its been a long time since I was on a forum:
    I think that in the past several of the Nuke Proof springs were Manitou, before they got 'Rebranded' in the back of a warehouse somewhere in the central belt... (bout the same time as Manitou were looking really ropey in the UK...) No info on current ones though..

    Laters
     
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    The last nukeproof spring I saw had lots of coils if you know what I mean. Manitou springs had much fewer coils and as a result weighed much less.
    With that said I dont think that there is an alternative to nukeproof if you have a rock shox rear shock now.
     
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    yeah Is ent 3 emails to unobtanium weeks ago and got no reply

    I had issues last time, but eventually got the spring for my BOS shock, but now I want to go up to a 225lbs

    Wish someone else could do them in 25lbs increments
     
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    http://www.diverse-mfg.com/mtb/15idtisprings.html

    You can get a DSP but only in 50#/inch increments.
     
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    I have emailed K9 Industries yesterday and today got a reply back from them,here is what they have to say.

    Hope this helps
     
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    I've got the 300 x 3.0 nukeproof Ti-spring and it weighs in at 281g. :thumb:
     
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    Maybe Obtainium should just put on the website they are not longer producing springs.... bummer..... hopefully DSP will have a 300 x 3.0 spring in stock soon
     
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    Just spoke to Jim, as i need a odd size spring, he said more springs are being made. They should be available mid January.

    FYI.
     
  33. IH8Rice

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    :rofl::rofl:
    i call complete BS on anything he says. every single time ive actually talked to him, he said the same exact thing
     
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    LOL!


    Pretty unprofessional way to answer the phone + vague timeline, i think you may be right.
     
  35. IH8Rice

    IH8Rice I'm Mr. Negative! I Fail!

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    sounds like every other time ive actually spoken to him.

    i sent him another email just to see what he says about a 450x3" spring.
     
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    Odd.. thats 3 weeks not 2.....
     
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    No springs available still on the website. 2 more weeks? :)
     
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    fixed.
     
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    Unobtainable Springs.
     
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