Awwwww, who's a good protester?? You are! Yes you are, girl, aren't you? You're a good little protester, yes you are....
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Awwwww, who's a good protester?? You are! Yes you are, girl, aren't you? You're a good little protester, yes you are....
Winner winner chicken dinner! I am a middle aged white dude.
And I empathize with your feelings about hot smart chicks.....one of my fondest "memories" is a no-kidding rocket scientist who worked for NASA for years.
you must spread some reputation around before you can give it to Dante again.
Covered. I wanted someone to add the text to the pic.you must spread some reputation around before you can give it to Dante again.
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^^^^^^Lol!!!! Unfortunately, I too must spread rep.
(edit: and yes, that was the meme I was thinking of)
(edit: and yes, that was the meme I was thinking of)
evidently i need to set my sarcasm tazer to "tickle".
An 'Occupy' march rolled through UW yesterday. It had been raining hard and I was going to take the bus home. Traffic was snarled and the bus was late. Rain eventually stopped so I got to ride home. I ****ing hate riding the bus. Thank you.
why are cops seemingly always on a ego/power trip and so easy to commit horrible acts of violence? Oh yeah, because jobs like that usually attract dickheads with big man complexes.
You want to fight people, theres a army waging war over in the middle east go do it there ya ****ing mooks.
You want to fight people, theres a army waging war over in the middle east go do it there ya ****ing mooks.
could someone make it more viscous
I was being sarcastic.
cops on bikes. lol
ironic?
We'll have to run that by Syadasti.
Why do I hear "For what its worth" in my head every time I look at a news source these days?
I can't see the response to OWS doing anything productive... it's only a matter of time before they see the error of their ways.
I wonder when they're going to call in the helicopters to gas the campus like they did in 19
https://diva.sfsu.edu/collections/sfbatv/bundles/190429
I wonder when they're going to call in the helicopters to gas the campus like they did in 19
https://diva.sfsu.edu/collections/sfbatv/bundles/190429
I see nothing wrong with that what so ever
I ended up at some protest they were doing last night there. (on my way home from pick n pull, I stopped to hang out with an old friend in davis and she wanted to go see what was going down) They are all pissed about the 50%+ fee hikes in the last couple years, I guess the lady running the school like's too spend tons and tons of money on useless crap and make the students foot the bill, apparently she's demanding a million dollar remodel on her house.
My friend's room mate actually took this picture
http://sfist.com/attachments/SFist_AndrewD/UCDavis_pepperspray.jpg
Nothing wrong till your benefits that you earned get cut.....
If you clubbed or pepper sprayed a non-threating person on the street and weren't a police officer violating the constitution you'd be arrested.
Charles J. Kelly, a former Baltimore Police Department lieutenant who wrote the department's use of force guidelines, said pepper spray is a "compliance tool" that can be used on subjects who do not resist, and is preferable to simply lifting protesters.
Chuck, that might work in Baltimore with a bunch of poor black kids. No one cares, and if someone does, you just say they were drug dealers, we know the drill. Almost no one raises a fuss when Jamal Washington gets a face full of spray, but when little Taylor does, the **** will hit the fan.
I see white kids sitting on the ground there in Davis. College-aged ones.
Chuck, that might work in Baltimore with a bunch of poor black kids. No one cares, and if someone does, you just say they were drug dealers, we know the drill. Almost no one raises a fuss when Jamal Washington gets a face full of spray, but when little Taylor does, the **** will hit the fan.
I see white kids sitting on the ground there in Davis. College-aged ones.
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Some effective work from city's PR department Today - pick up an amateur pipe bomber (they've know about him for a few years) and make him look like a bigger threat via a media circus to take the spotlight off the NYPD's long record of misconduct at OWS...
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Heard this on NPR tonight. My first words to the wife were "Oh good, they set up another bogey man." I guess time will tell how much the FBI supplied him with in order to make him a terrorist.
As a Cop, I was always taught the difference between active and passive resisters...sitting on the ground, ignoring commands, is pretty passive. These are the guys you either let sit until their asses get numb and they leave on their own, or you mist them with water until they get cold and leave on their own accord. I have tried to never second guess a Cop on the street, because I dont know what their orders are, or what they're thinking at the time, or what threat they percieve...but this is wrong to me on so many different levels. I cannot support any of the actions of the UC Davis police...
only if they are yelling "get some!" as they are spraying the huddled masses will i care....
Could you name the last non-violent protest which took place in the ghetto?
'How do you pepper spray students and elderly women?
Easy, you just don't lead them as much!"
I think the people really ****ting themselves here are the school's leadership who signed off on the use of force policy allowing (mandating?) use of an intermediate, non-striking weapon on passive resisters. Gonna be a big game of feigning, or at least trying to explain, your ignorance when it turns out fat boy was following the orders you approved.
Also, who actually told the cops these kids needed to be moved anyhow? That person is also pulling his hair out in the office trying to spin the quote "I don't care, just get these ****birds off the sidewalk before the dean blows his top!" in case the media ever finds out what he said.
Or did the cops decide themselves that it was time to end this situation? Possible, depending on the chain of command.
But what were these kids doing that mandated a forceful response on any level? (Honest question.) Were they creating an unsafe situation, blocking a public thoroughfare, preventing access to needed facilities, or just pissing off authorities by their presence? Jesus, let them just sit there till they get bored, hungry, or the buzz from their last 3 bowls of Essence de Humbolt wears off and they wander away. Or until they assault someone who tries to cross their lines. Then go game-on. (Maybe that happened...I dunno, as I wasn't there.)
Policy aside, obviously a counterproductive PR move to spray a bunch of passive college kids trying to pretend it's 1968. Wrong? Personally, I don't like the idea of intermediate weapons being used before good old-fashioned hands-on, but I think such policies are usually born (ironically) of a fear of lawsuits for brutality. You can rinse off pepper spray a lot faster than a broken limb or joint.
Their excuse was a bold-faced lie: "Spokesmen for the police said the officers had been surrounded by other protesters and felt threatened."
Even if it was true why would you attack the people who weren't resisting/surrounding you?
I think it's "bald-faced." And while that's obvious BS, there's a real reason this happened and I'd be interested to know what it actually was... Who made the decision? Or did things just drift down to the officers' own discretion(s) in a vacuum of leadership? Were the officers so simply motivated by an instinctive binary opposition to some perceived disorder that it was their job to correct?
My bet is still that some high-level administrator (or the police chief?) gave a broad-brush "just get them the hell off that quad!" kind of order and the police did exactly that.
(And to get pedantic, under the UC Davis policies, use of spray isn't "attacking" but an appropriate proportional response to passive resistance. And your freedom to assemble and speak doesn't include a freedom to prohibit others from going about their own business; dunno if that was happening here or what, but just saying...)
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Police chief has also been placed on "administrative leave" along with the two officers involved.
Univ. of Calif., Davis police chief now on leave - Yahoo! News
To be expected, but I doubt that administrators seeking to cover their own asses would do anything less.
As long as they followed the depts published Use of FOrce rules, the occifers are (Generally...) okay. But like Mike said, the clowns who signed the policy might want to sell off some assets. I hear moving your house into your wifes name is a good strategy...
My guess is that cops are used to three kinds of postures:
1. Violent, either because of drugs or the suspects are trying to flee
2. Evasive, which means the people they are talking to are either lying or keeping something a secret
3. Submissive, like when they give a ticket and the person receiving it thanks them
The Occupy protesters are none of these. They are non-violent, very frank about their agenda, and far from submissive.
I think the cops are not used to be outnumbered and out-of-control, and the two pepper-sprayers lost it.
1. Violent, either because of drugs or the suspects are trying to flee
2. Evasive, which means the people they are talking to are either lying or keeping something a secret
3. Submissive, like when they give a ticket and the person receiving it thanks them
The Occupy protesters are none of these. They are non-violent, very frank about their agenda, and far from submissive.
I think the cops are not used to be outnumbered and out-of-control, and the two pepper-sprayers lost it.