Let me tell you about a foes dhs........
OChain “chainless” chainring spider
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Let me tell you about a foes dhs........
i don't know, all this debating on the technical prowess of the derailleur spring has me kinda intrigued..
wasn't there a racer (I want to say Gee), who had a spacer in place of a cog on his cassette so he could shift into a "gear" that didn't engage the freehub? As I recall, it was a one-off, maybe in the last 2 years or so?
Canyon had something like that for Troy... I don't think it ever went anywhere tho...
Canyon's Wild DH Drivetrain Disconnect - Eurobike 2016 - Pinkbike
Canyon's Project Dis\Connect system disengages the bike's drivetrain to allow for total suspension freedom. Is this the future, or is it a crutch?
sounds like we need to improve on it somehow . . . DERAILLEUR ELASTOMERS, ANYONE?
Wow canyon must have believed my singularly held mythology.
Suckers.
Suckers.
there
yeah, someone had cassette with a "missing" cog that they could shift in and out of...
Aaron Chase did that on his Cannondale, but for different reasons (mostly fakies and shit).
brosnan, no?
That was from:
Tech Randoms: Les Gets World Cup DH 2019 - Pinkbike
It was a busy day for mechanics as they worked to rebuild bikes in preparation for another round of wild DH racing.
Nope, because the derailuer is still dishing chain out to chain growth.
But kickback thats "faster" than your traveling speed is ceartainly removed.
That's the one I was thinking of!View attachment 141251
That was from:
Tech Randoms: Les Gets World Cup DH 2019 - Pinkbike
It was a busy day for mechanics as they worked to rebuild bikes in preparation for another round of wild DH racing.www.pinkbike.com
Imagine how fast bikes would be if we got ride of all the energy absorbing devices that moved with the suspension?
Looks like you need an ebike.
Now you've said too much.
No shit. Last time I put any thought into this was never. It seems like around here it's not about riding your bike anymore, but anal-izing the back pressure of a derailleur on your high speed rebound and the extra 4.1% of pressure it takes to engage brakes.
Do you guys even ride bra's?
If you need to know how bad it's gotten, he's agreeing with @manhattanprjkt83 !
I rely very heavily on those energy absorbing components these days. It's rough out there!
Rode for 3 hours sunday. Our winter is sucking. Not like that matters.
FTFY
I dont really drink.... anything thats not water infused with roasted arabica beans, grap a coffee and try to explain to me in ultra graphic detail what the hell your talking about lol.
Mixed feelings about that!
If pedal kickback existed would it be lessened by being in taller gear? Or would that depend on the frame? On a few bikes that are known for it I feel like the suspension is plusher in 10th gear than 5th. It would seem like in a low enough gear the freewheel could engage and you'd feel it, but in a tall gear the cog set can't be rotated quickly enough by the suspension for the pawls to catch.
On most of them yes, but it depends on the frame. Most modern bikes that are worth a shit have gotten it pretty minimal.
Just put your bike in a stand and take the shock off and cycle the thing in different gears.
Then do it while holding a pedal in place. On the frames you're probably thinking of you'll see the drivetrain unwind more drastically to feed out slack.
Just put your bike in a stand and take the shock off and cycle the thing in different gears.
Then do it while holding a pedal in place. On the frames you're probably thinking of you'll see the drivetrain unwind more drastically to feed out slack.
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Pinkbike had a product release article on this yesterday so it was thinking about it again and went back to reread Woo's post. So is it safe the say that you can avoid pedal kickback by being in a tall gear and not riding one of the very few current bikes with lots of chain growth? If so, than the people who think they feel a difference with the chain removed are only reacting to the lack of noise and unsprung weight?
It's 2020. So unless you buy an orange, don't worry about pedal kickback. It's so minor on most bikes built these days it's a non issue. And on any ones were it's significant just don't pedal in g-outs. For the millionth time, chain growth gets taken up by the derailleur.
Did you read the part about putting a bike in a stand, taking the shock off and cycling the suspension? Then doing it again while holding a pedal in place?
Then put all that shit back together and go do two ones, one with a chain and one without.
That will answer all your questions
Did you read the part about putting a bike in a stand, taking the shock off and cycling the suspension? Then doing it again while holding a pedal in place?
Then put all that shit back together and go do two ones, one with a chain and one without.
That will answer all your questions
I thought the idea was getting an idler like suspension feel where your chain tension doesn't influence how your susp works? Or am I wrong? Because I know some people who praise not feeling your chain, those people ride specialized's...
Kidwoo
Maybe if you tried it it would give you the o face.
Because its an o chain...
Maybe if you tried it it would give you the o face.
Because its an o chain...
Idler bikes still have some chain growth. Otherwise they'd have no anti-squat and pedal like concentric bikes.
One of these 'work from home' days I'm going to do a timelapse of the progression of steve's hairdos.
It would be more interesting to track the reduction in both frequency and amplitude when saying hee-yaa (here).
Confirmed everything I thought.
Take aways: Use the lightest and shortest chain (this means use the smallest cassette you can). Use a top and bottom guide with the clutch turned off. Be in a tall gear.
It's true. Steve wakes up at 2pm
All of which you would have seen personally if you'd done what I said in a bike stand
