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Discussion in 'Downhill & Freeride' started by demo 9, Apr 27, 2014.

  1. demo 9

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    I believe minaar has a set. Anybody know if they are available to the public and by who?

    These cups lengthen/shorten the TT
     

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    king, not available. i asked.
     
  3. HardtailHack

    HardtailHack used an iron once

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    Yup I'd like one too, only looks like the CK proto at the moment.

    Two Angleset upper cups and gimbals, hahaha!
     
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    I wish they had a 44/56. I'd like to try one on my tr450
     
  7. sethimus

    sethimus scroll all you want!

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    i think you should try to understand how that works first...
     
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    I understand it perfectly, but I'm not sure it's even possible to squeeze an offset into a 44mm internal headset. The top would probably have to be converted into an external.
     
  9. SCARY

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    I need more of these green square things^^
    Are those sc guys on xl bikes?
     
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    Exactly, it is possible and my buddy could make one for you if you wanted.
    His website is http://dapilten.com/en/bike-parts/21-angeled-headsets.html
    That is the one we made for Brendog.
     
  11. SCARY

    SCARY Not long enough

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    I need more of these green square things^^
    Seems stupid that those guys need to stretch their cockpit and add 6" worth of spacers under their 0 rise Enve stem.i know they're taller , but it seems pretty janky.
     
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    peaty is.

    and minaarrrrrrrrrrrrrr runs stack height spacers on his stem. he's getting close to ape hangar teritory
     
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    Thanks! I'm definitely going to look into it. I want a longer reach/wheelbase without a slacker head angle.
     
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    They are. At MSA last year Ratboy had them backwards to shorten the TT and Minnaar had them forward to make it longer.
     
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    The way the whole stem/handlebar height vs spacers thing was explained to me is that both stem rise and handlebar rise are fixed so they can't easily be changed between runs. The spacers however can be changed in a minute or two, so Minaarrrrrr can roll into the pits and say he wants his bars a bit higher and they can slap a spacer in there a lot quicker than swapping out a stem or bars.

    Still doesn't change the fact that they are running 203785 spacers, but Peaty and Minaarr know a lot more about going fast than I do.
     
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    because moar shimz DUH
     
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    Thread should be changed to Needz Moar Top Tube Lengthz.
     
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    So, I get the presto chango thing with the spacers, but if he were perhaps running 2" rise bars instead of like 1", he'd need less, and the pit shots showed like 6 5mm spacers. That's a lot of stupid. Perhaps enve doesn't make a taller rise bar?

    As for the 4mm offset cups, grab a pair of 1.5* angleset cups and a pair of gimbals. Should cost less than $100.
     
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    Just got mine. It's sweet. So nicely made, and put me right where I want to be. Thanks for the lead on that Ben.
     
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    made this 2 years a go
    any workshop can make this headsets
    headset.jpg
     
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    Works didn't have any stock on there offset headsets so I contacted Sergio and he made me up a 6.5mm offset headset. It came in yesterday and I got a chance to try it out last night. It's pretty amazing what a difference it made in the feel of the bike. Gave me that magical half size longer that I wanted.

    It makes me wish more companies would put full 1.5" Headtubes on there frames and more suspension companies would offer straight 1 1/8" steerers. Having a half inch of adjustability on the reach of a bike makes it easier to dial in a frame for sizing.
     
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    It's very janky. SC needs to finally make a proper XL.
     
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    Wonder why it is not compatible with full carbon headtubes? It seems just like any other of their headsets
     
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    Yeah, it's true. Those Syndicate guys always look so big on their bikes, they really our help with sizing.

     
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    You mean the 10 years they'll spend selling people an overpriced engineering failure while FSA's patent for the correct solution (split compression ring) expires, and then offer it for sale as an "upgrade"?

    I'd buy a Works or Dapilten just on principle.
     
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    ive been on that site before. lotsa machined goodness for the gambler.

    although its got me wondering.. are the rocker link and drop outs that bad??? i wouldnt think so.
     
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    because carbon. thats why
    UdiJesus has spoken again! still amazed over the whole split ring thing myself.
     
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    it was aheadset, which was cane creek. not FSA.
     
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    Ben is constantly designing new parts and testing them in his alpine backyard to find the cutting edge, I believe dapilten just help him quickly machine new designs so that he can rapid prototype new ideas without having to go through the full development process. Nothing to do with issues with production bikes, just a very cool R&D program.

    I just said FSA to simplify things, it's technically both. Both companies use the same system and they use the same bearings (TH Industries), in fact many parts between their headsets are identical.

    Patent #5319993 is owned by FSA/TH and #5095770 by CC/dia-compe. You'll notice both patents detail the split compression ring / collet design.
     
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    well how about that

     
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    I need to add a couple mm to my pole... I would just order a works reach adjust headset and be done, but they aren't currently available. King is still vaporware, and superstar components makes one but won't ship to the US. Do I have any other options for a 44/56 head tube and tapered steerer?
     
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    more like cm
     
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    Mega long bike needs to be longer??
     
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    I also have a L , I just want to get it closer to the Xl in sizing so they feel similar when switching back and forth
     
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