[sanjuro]

Ohio's electric supermoto release party

He did not go cheap on the parts, either:

The location was pretty smoot-dooty:

Inside was pure Italian elegance, a mix of tech and motorhead.

I've been waiting 3 weeks to create this thread, although the original title was Ohio's FAIL BIKE. But this is a total win for Ohio. Congrats!

 

[Toshi]

 

[stosh]

Beautiful!

 

[stoney]

Nice! Did you get the battery life higher than when we last talked? I'm guessing the super-x bike is a no go currently?

 

[stevew]

no springer no care.

 

[jonKranked]

brd? the bird is the word

 

[Westy]

I hope it has a sufficient quantity of shims.

 

[binary visions]

Congrats, Ohio. I didn't get the photos until this morning so the news article didn't get posted until I got off work today... but it's awesome news.

 

[Westy]

With no clutch needed does it have bar mounted rear brake lever like a bicycle?

 

[Pesqueeb]

When do we get to ride one?











Syadasti tech rant in 3......2.....

 

[jimmydean]

With no clutch needed does it have bar mounted rear brake lever like a bicycle?

That was the main thing that was strange for me on the Empulse, nothing to do with the left side of my body (no clutch, no shift lever). I would think a bar mounted rear would be in order.

Congrats, Ohio!

 

[Toshi]

I think I spy a left-sided lever of some sorts in the rendering...

http://faster-faster.com/images/redshift_sm_large.jpg

I also spy the same thing on the photoshoot real bike:

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-content/gallery/brd-redshift-sm-launch/brd-redshift-sm-alley.jpg

 

[Westy]

With a few accelerometers, angular rate sensor and some software hacking that thing could be turned into a robotic wheelie machine.

 

[TortugaTonta]

Looks a little more burley than the Zero.

The whole reason I got into dirt jumping was my mx bike was to loud for the back yard. With electric I could have a full on sx track and nobody would know the difference, oh I can see the step up to step offs now. . .

 

[chillindrdude]

whats the price for one?

 

[syadasti]

brd? the bird is the word

Yird would be better. Alt name for earth moto.

 

[jonKranked]

Yird would be better. Fancy inoffensive name for earth bike.

you're from the 60's aren't you? remember this? PEACE LOVE DOPE! NOW GET THE HELL OUT!

 

[syadasti]

you're from the 60's aren't you? remember this? PEACE LOVE DOPE! NOW GET THE HELL OUT!

Yird is Scottish, not hippy.

 

[ohio]

Thanks, all, especially Sanjuro for putting this up and for coming by the launch to support us. We're exhausted, but really excited to finally share what we've been up to.

To answer some questions -
- The motocross bike is still planned, though it will ship in dual sport (street legal) trim to be eligible for the current government incentives for electric vehicles. We still very much have our sites on running this thing in Lites class races...
- Springer version is a great idea. Let's put a pin in that one.
- This bike has so many shims, you have no idea. But it could always use moar.
- Default is a left handed rear brake, but foot brake is an available option for curmudgeons. I don't know why anyone would choose the foot brake, though, because the combination of freeing up your feet and having SO much more sensitivity to the rear wheel is spectacular.
- Aiming for production in time for 2012 riding season, so test rides should be when the snow is melting next year.
- It already does wheelies and burnouts quite nicely, and we still have considerable development to do to get it to its full potential.
- The chassis is made to handle pro supercross. It will definitely be up for a backyard track. We're pretty excited to revive those, as well as ninja supermoto runs through SF in the middle of the night. San Francisco is kind of nothing but a series of step-ups, table tops, and step downs...
- We're not announcing pricing yet, but I can tell you it is not cheap. No way around the fact that batteries cost ****loads right now. If you're still upset about how much more 4-strokes cost than 2-strokes, you will be downright offended. That said, if you've ever bought a DH MTB, it'll feel about right.

 

[UiUiUiUi]

any videos of this available?

damn the sad thing is will be nearly impossible to get this streetlegal here.
i sooo want one because i always hated the noise of regular MX bikes...

 

[Westy]

Nice shop, yours? Makino A-series, Mmmmmm.

 

[binary visions]

Thanks, all, especially Sanjuro for putting this up and for coming by the launch to support us. We're exhausted, but really excited to finally share what we've been up to.

It's okay, Marc. You can admit it. The most exciting part of this entire project was your brief, shining glory where you appeared on the front page of www.ridemonkey.com.

 

[sanjuro]

Thanks, all, especially Sanjuro for putting this up and for coming by the launch to support us. We're exhausted, but really excited to finally share what we've been up to.

To answer some questions -
- The motocross bike is still planned, though it will ship in dual sport (street legal) trim to be eligible for the current government incentives for electric vehicles. We still very much have our sites on running this thing in Lites class races...
- Springer version is a great idea. Let's put a pin in that one.
- This bike has so many shims, you have no idea. But it could always use moar.
- Default is a left handed rear brake, but foot brake is an available option for curmudgeons. I don't know why anyone would choose the foot brake, though, because the combination of freeing up your feet and having SO much more sensitivity to the rear wheel is spectacular.
- Aiming for production in time for 2012 riding season, so test rides should be when the snow is melting next year.
- It already does wheelies and burnouts quite nicely, and we still have considerable development to do to get it to its full potential.
- The chassis is made to handle pro supercross. It will definitely be up for a backyard track. We're pretty excited to revive those, as well as ninja supermoto runs through SF in the middle of the night. San Francisco is kind of nothing but a series of step-ups, table tops, and step downs...
- We're not announcing pricing yet, but I can tell you it is not cheap. No way around the fact that batteries cost ****loads right now. If you're still upset about how much more 4-strokes cost than 2-strokes, you will be downright offended. That said, if you've ever bought a DH MTB, it'll feel about right.

Negative note: ran out of beer by 8pm. I am not having a glass of chardonnay.

 

[rockofullr]

Will regular working stiffs be able to afford it?

Or is it one of those, "if you have to ask..." things.

Edit: oops reading fail, don't answer that

 

[Iridemtb]

any videos of this available?

damn the sad thing is will be nearly impossible to get this streetlegal here.
i sooo want one because i always hated the noise of regular MX bikes...

You don't like 2 stroke goodness?

 

[eric strt6]

That bike meets one of my biggest requirements. The ability to do quasi legal/illegal stuff in full stealth mode. If you don't make noise most folks won't notice you

 

[jimmydean]

Look forward to the pricing. An EV supermoto would go well with my West Hills commute in stealth mode.

 

[ohio]

It's okay, Marc. You can admit it. The most exciting part of this entire project was your brief, shining glory where you appeared on the front page of www.ridemonkey.com.

Not gonna lie, I was super excited to share this with you guys. I've been on this site for about a decade at this point, and dammit if I don't love you ****ers to death.

Nice shop, yours? Makino A-series, Mmmmmm.

Yup, that's our shop and soon to be our production facility. I'm the wrong guy to nerd out on equipment and answer all your questions, but the frames are being done on this badass LeBlond horizontal milling station.

Negative note: ran out of beer by 8pm. I am not having a glass of chardonnay.

Sack up, pvssy. You'll drink chardonnay and like it.

I could have sworn we did an emergency beer run. I know I gave someone my AmEx and closed the event out with a case of leftover beers... Maybe you pissed off Ben, the bartender, and he was holding out on you?

 

[ohio]

any videos of this available?

damn the sad thing is will be nearly impossible to get this streetlegal here.
i sooo want one because i always hated the noise of regular MX bikes...

multi-quote fail by me.

We'll have some videos up eventually, not sure exactly when though. I don't really want to post riding vids until we're gapping the crest of Gough St in SF on the thing. Parking lot wheelies and shop floor burnouts don't shine on the web the way they do in person.

Getting it street legal shouldn't be an issue. We'll ship every model as street legal in the US with full lighting and switchgear, and are doing our best to design it as CE compliant from the start. Part of our motivation was to figure out a way to get race bike performance (e.g. CRF250R) on the street.

 

[Nick]

Marc hates being the slowest rider in the group, but makes up for it with a complete lack of survival instinct.

Awesome.

 

[dante]

With a few accelerometers, angular rate sensor and some software hacking that thing could be turned into a robotic wheelie machine.

If that's the case, you might as well go full uni-motor-cycle.

Ohio, congrats, that looks AWESOME!

 

[sanjuro]

From a rider perspective, a quiet, cooler running bike that kicks out zero exhaust is perfect for both the city rider, who has neighbors to consider, and in the woods, where the less obnoxious, the better.

When I get my turn on a BRD, I probably won't hit much dirt, but I will be pushing hard around San Fran.

 

[Westy]

Yup, that's our shop and soon to be our production facility. I'm the wrong guy to nerd out on equipment and answer all your questions, but the frames are being done on this badass LeBlond horizontal milling station.

I worked for Leblond Makino for a few years. I can assure you that machine was built with an absurd level of precision. Depending on the year and model that may have a tool changer that is one of the most giggle inducing bits of machinery I have ever seen.

 

[stevew]

can it run on smug?

 

[jimmydean]

I want to take it out to GFF's old track out in Sisters and see what it can do.

 

[ohio]

I worked for Leblond Makino for a few years. I can assure you that machine was built with an absurd level of precision. Depending on the year and model that may have a tool changer that is one of the most giggle inducing bits of machinery I have ever seen.

I'm on the verge of revealing ignorance, but yes, it's got a rotating tool changer with 2 spots. The plan is to upgrade it to a 6 unit carousel for production. The two frame components take about 30 and 45 minutes respectively (each can be fully machined in a single fixturing), and swapping fixtures is about 5 minutes. It's ****ing awesome.

can it run on smug?

We use what's available, and that **** is cheap and plentiful in SF.

 

[buildyourown]

a tool changer that is one of the most giggle inducing bits of machinery I have ever seen.

I ran a pair of A55's for a few year stint in aerospace. Those things straight up haul ass even by todays standards. Maybe it's just deceiving because you are way to close to the tool changer with the door open. That, and if it let go of a tool it was going thru your head.

 

[Toshi]

I wish I knew what you CNC people are oohing and ahhing about. Youtube link please

 

[Westy]

I ran a pair of A55's for a few year stint in aerospace. Those things straight up haul ass even by todays standards. Maybe it's just deceiving because you are way to close to the tool changer with the door open. That, and if it let go of a tool it was going thru your head.

I once tuned one of them bad-boys up and got it changing tools in .15 seconds. It was frightening. Any faster and it would pitch the tool at the sliding door window faster than a Nolan Ryan fastball.

 

[jimmydean]

So... I can has?