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H8R

H8R

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When it rains it pours.

This week:

Working 40+ hours a week at day job. I'm implementing a new wireless network there (and learning how to do it at the same time..yikes)

Working 20+ hours a week at my business w/ my wife. Just remodeled my shop, spent all night last night printing for an art show.

Helping my wife install sculpture at said art show.

Writing a new record w/ the band.

Upcoming shows w/ the band:

London, Nov 18th
Portland Nov 24th
Seattle Nov 25th


I'm sleepy.

How's everyone else doin?
 
Secret Squirrel

Secret Squirrel

There is no Justice!
Dec 21, 2004
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H8R said:
When it rains it pours.

This week:

Working 40+ hours a week at day job. I'm implementing a new wireless network there (and learning how to do it at the same time..yikes)

Working 20+ hours a week at my business w/ my wife. Just remodeled my shop, spent all night last night printing for an art show.

Helping my wife install sculpture at said art show.

Writing a new record w/ the band.

Upcoming shows w/ the band:

London, Nov 18th
Portland Nov 24th
Seattle Nov 25th


I'm sleepy.

How's everyone else doin?
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PM me the details about the Seattle show. That's my backyard!
 
sanjuro

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I think it is important to really enjoy the part time work. Regular jobs you just have to deal with the problems, but I found when my part time gig at the shop became unpleasant and difficult, it took a toll on the rest of the week.
 
Secret Squirrel

Secret Squirrel

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On the side of doin':

1. Bought a 'cross bike for commuting. 40 miles round trip, should get me in shape for the upcoming season of DH!!

2. Work blows goatz.

3. Football season is goin' strong. Go Hawks.

4. Gonna go riding this weekend...a lot.

5. Glad to see you're doin' well!!
 
H8R

H8R

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sanjuro said:
I think it is important to really enjoy the part time work. Regular jobs you just have to deal with the problems, but I found when my part time gig at the shop became unpleasant and difficult, it took a toll on the rest of the week.
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That's why we're building our own business. Fvck the man.

:D
 
brungeman

brungeman

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H8R said:
Let's see...

pillow cases
napkins
nighties
women's underwear
t's
kitchen towels

http://www.evonoche.com

soon:
some custom apparel, for local bands, etc
posters and other graphic work
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sweet stuff, what emulsion and ink are you using? I noticed you said water based ink.... (I don't mean to pry, I use examples of the stuff my students can do just like this all the time)

at this time we are just starting to get into flatstock (with ulano RLX printing with housepaint)

we have been printing T's with plastisol, & RLX, and printing on glass with enamal ink.

I am curious about the waterbased ink, I had been looking for a good "soft hand" replacement for plastisol!!!
 
H8R

H8R

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brungeman said:
sweet stuff, what emulsion and ink are you using? I noticed you said water based ink.... (I don't mean to pry, I use examples of the stuff my students can do just like this all the time)

at this time we are just starting to get into flatstock (with ulano RLX printing with housepaint)

we have been printing T's with plastisol, & RLX, and printing on glass with enamal ink.

I am curious about the waterbased ink, I had been looking for a good "soft hand" replacement for plastisol!!!
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For white and light garment waterbased ink is unbeatable for the softness, especially after the first wash. It sets into the fabric instead of laying on top of it. We'd never use plastisol on linens. (it'd make a rubber pillow case...eww)

Try Nazdar 9500 series, that is just about the smoothest wb ink I've ever used. Union ink makes a decent offering as well - Aerotex series.

try:
http://www.sourceoneonline.com

Caveat - wb ink needs way more heat to cure than plastisol, unless you mix in a catalyst (about 3-5% of ink volume). With heat only, you need to keep it at 350-375 degrees for up to 3 minutes or more - hard to do w/ a panel dryer without scorching. Small dryers can be used if the garment is fed through twice. Plastisol cures right as it hits it's target temp, so curing time is much shorter.

With a catalyst though, the ink only needs to be dryed, it can even be line dryed. The catalyst will cure the ink in about 72 hours.

One problem, the mixed catalyzed ink will have a limited shelf life, usually less than 24 hours, more like 8. It must be mixed in small qty's to reduce waste.
 
H8R

H8R

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btw - I've been using Chromaline CP5/WR, but I am going back to Ulano 925WR (that's what I used years ago, I remember it having a better exposure latitude)
 
brungeman

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H8R said:
For white and light garment waterbased ink is unbeatable for the softness, especially after the first wash. It sets into the fabric instead of laying on top of it. We'd never use plastisol on linens. (it'd make a rubber pillow case...eww)

Try Nazdar 9500 series, that is just about the smoothest wb ink I've ever used. Union ink makes a decent offering as well - Aerotex series.

try:
http://www.sourceoneonline.com

Caveat - wb ink needs way more heat to cure than plastisol, unless you mix in a catalyst (about 3-5% of ink volume). With heat only, you need to keep it at 350-375 degrees for up to 3 minutes or more - hard to do w/ a panel dryer without scorching. Small dryers can be used if the garment is fed through twice. Plastisol cures right as it hits it's target temp, so curing time is much shorter.

With a catalyst though, the ink only needs to be dryed, it can even be line dryed. The catalyst will cure the ink in about 72 hours.

One problem, the mixed catalyzed ink will have a limited shelf life, usually less than 24 hours, more like 8. It must be mixed in small qty's to reduce waste.
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Yep plastisol has that cheesy feel to it.... but for us we get pretty good results with for T-s etc.

I have used a few waterbased inks but wasn't that fond of them... (couldn't get them as permanent (cured properly)) as I would have liked!

I use nazdar's 9700 for glass.

is the 9500 a "discharge" ink? my friend prints with that sometimes! He briefly explained it, but I don't know enough about it... every day is a learning experience!
 
H8R

H8R

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brungeman said:
is the 9500 a "discharge" ink? my friend prints with that sometimes! He briefly explained it, but I don't know enough about it... every day is a learning experience!
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No, discharge is a whole different animal. It has a chemical that "discharges" the substrate dye as it's heat cured. This allows softer hand on dark fabrics. I messed w/ some years ago, pretty neat stuff.

Trivia - crap table felts are discharge printed - this means no ink surface to affect the dice.
 
brungeman

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H8R said:
btw - I've been using Chromaline CP5/WR, but I am going back to Ulano 925WR (that's what I used years ago, I remember it having a better exposure latitude)
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that is what a bunch of my friends that print posters etc. use... I have heard of a few others having luck with "QTX, and ChromaBlue" while printing with waterbased inks.
 
brungeman

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H8R said:
No, discharge is a whole different animal. It has a chemical that "discharges" the substrate dye as it's heat cured. This allows softer hand on dark fabrics. I messed w/ some years ago, pretty neat stuff.

Trivia - crap table felts are discharge printed - this means no ink surface to affect the dice.
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Yep the stuff he was using realy felt good! the T's were supper soft (obviously)

I was hanging with him just as he made the switch to plastisol!

that is cool trivia!
 
Tame Ape

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I've only used WC inks, I find that the white I'm using is the only one with problems. It either dries to fast or its too thick... Otherwise I still don't see why I should move away from it to Plastisol.

However, I am in the market for Soy based inks and will check out Print conference that thankfully is going on at the same time as IBike
 
H8R

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Tame Ape said:
I've only used WC inks, I find that the white I'm using is the only one with problems. It either dries to fast or its too thick... Otherwise I still don't see why I should move away from it to Plastisol.
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Use some retarder and keep the ink slightly thinned. A teaspoon of water at a time to keep the ink nice and wet. Use retarder sparingly (too much and it'll take TOO long to dry.)

I've bee trying some Union ink white and it's a pain in the ass. It dries to an armor plating in the screen if you take a pee break.
:rant:

The rest of their line is pretty forgiving though.
 
H8R

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Tame Ape said:
However, I am in the market for Soy based inks and will check out Print conference that thankfully is going on at the same time as IBike
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Dude, I will buy you a pony if you find a good soy based textile ink. Lemme know.
 
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H8R said:
Use some retarder and keep the ink slightly thinned. A teaspoon of water at a time to keep the ink nice and wet. Use retarder sparingly (too much and it'll take TOO long to dry.)

I've bee trying some Union ink white and it's a pain in the ass. It dries to an armor plating in the screen if you take a pee break.
:rant:

The rest of their line is pretty forgiving though.
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Yah, been doing that too. If I put to much p.glycol in the mix it becomes to watery and doesn't opacify/coat as well.

My solution was to make sure I always put the lid back on the paint pot, use a flood strok and work as faaaast as possible. No breaks without washing out the screen.
 
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H8R said:
Dude, I will buy you a pony if you find a good soy based textile ink. Lemme know.
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we'll see what the conference holds. What bad characteriscs do Soy-based inks traditionally have? I don't know that much about it.
 
H8R

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Tame Ape said:
we'll see what the conference holds. What bad characteriscs do Soy-based inks traditionally have?
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None, aside from the fact that they don't exist for textiles. (to my knowledge anyway...)
 
Tame Ape

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I really like the flowr design. have you/lady-friend thought about making a pattern out of it?
 
H8R

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Tame Ape said:
I really like the flowr design. have you/lady-friend thought about making a pattern out of it?
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You mean my wife? That is from her line drawings of poinsettias.



We are eventually doing full linens - sheets, duvets, etc. Right now just pillow cases. We actually have a supplier that makes them in the USA. It's weird!

100% cotton goods made totally in the states are VERY hard to come by. (aside from American Apparel).
 
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H8R said:
??

You mean my wife? That is from her line drawings of poinsettias.



We are eventually doing full linens - sheets, duvets, etc. Right now just pillow cases. We actually have a supplier that makes them in the USA. It's weird!

100% cotton goods made totally in the states are VERY hard to come by. (aside from American Apparel).
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Instead of a sheet, as a pattern, it could make for a very simple and summery dress. Something with an integrated waist. I have an image in mind... I'm going to try and come up with something from Google...

edit: I didn't want to just assume she was your wife.
 
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