[rideit]

I mean, I think I get it, but there are fancy words n’ stuff

Carbon Air Aims to Make Air Suspension More Like Coil - Pond Beaver 2021 - Pinkbike

Carbon Air has been making products for the air suspension in Audi's A6 and A7 cars since 2017. Now, they're developing their product for mountain bikes.

www.pinkbike.com

 

[Westy]

Sounds like an effective means of extracting additional monetary volume from goobers.

Would be a little more convincing if their demonstration video wasn't a computer simulation.

 

[rideit]

So yes, it’s a volume reducer that sucks (money).
got it.

 

[Gary]

Sounds like an effective means of extracting additional monetary volume from goobers.

Would be a little more convincing if their demonstration video wasn't a computer simulation.

I get the impression plenty mountain bike enthusiasts do the majority of their biking from their computer

 

[kidwoo]

man if only we had something that could duplicate a coil


oh well!

 

[Jm_]

man if only we had something that could duplicate a coil


oh well!

Like maybe made out of metal? Perhaps with spring properties?

 

[Westy]

Drill a hole in the top caps and you have infinite volume

 

[kidwoo]

infinite volume

Well I mean.....you don't know that.

 

[rideit]

I have a top cap made out of Pi.

 

[kidwoo]

I have a top cap made out of Pi.

delicious

 

[rideit]

It's carbon based.

 

[Jm_]

It's carbon based.

Fill it with hydrogen.

 

[rideit]

Or Nitrous!

 

[boogenman]

man if only we had something that could duplicate a coil


oh well!

If I have 30% sag with a coil it’s all good. The problem is after I eat 2 cheeseburgers, 3 hot dogs and slam 4 ipa’s I’m not getting that 30% anymore. Real world problems right there.

 

[rideit]

Look up “Real Turd Solutions”, and lose that weight!

 

[SkaredShtles]

If I have 30% sag with a coil it’s all good. The problem is after I eat 2 cheeseburgers, 3 hot dogs and slam 4 ipa’s I’m not getting that 30% anymore. Real world problems right there.

Shit's gon' be MOAR plush after all that. Best part of having coil.

 

[Electric_City]

man if only we had something that could duplicate a coil


oh well!

But in super accurate 25lb increments!

 

[jonKranked]

If I have 30% sag with a coil it’s all good. The problem is after I eat 2 cheeseburgers, 3 hot dogs and slam 4 ipa’s I’m not getting that 30% anymore. Real world problems right there.

are you running a 900lb coil?

 

[boogenman]

are you running a 900lb coil?

923lb, titanium of course.

 

[toodles]

are you running a 900lb coil?

I had a bike once that needed a 1000lb coil for my (then) 65kg (150mm travel from 40mm shock). It used to break the Pac-Man spring retainer thing non-stop and had everything maxxed out. 16 year old toodles probably should have put the bike in a shorter travel setting, but genuinely thought more travel was always the best option.

 

[Jm_]

I had a bike once that needed a 1000lb coil for my (then) 65kg (150mm travel from 40mm shock). It used to break the Pac-Man spring retainer thing non-stop and had everything maxxed out. 16 year old toodles probably should have put the bike in a shorter travel setting, but genuinely thought more travel was always the best option.

RM9?

 

[Kanye West]

Google adiabatic process.

 

[Westy]

Google adiabatic process.

The marketing department would like to speak to you about how your science based arguments have no place here. Your shock pump gets hot and that is clearly the exact same thing as an air spring.

 

[Kanye West]

The marketing department would like to speak to you about how your science based arguments have no place here. Your shock pump gets hot and that is clearly the exact same thing as an air spring.

Most things get hot when I stroke them. I should make a Wikipedia submission based on that.

 

[rideit]

Hmmm....maybe I’ll invent a battery charger that runs on fork and shock created heat.
kickstarter, anyone?

 

[Westy]

Hmmm....maybe I’ll invent a battery charger that runs on fork and shock created heat.
kickstarter, anyone?

Google adiabatic process

Actually the damper does convert kinetic energy into heat, could slap on a Peltier generator and make microwatts of electricity!

 

[rideit]

I’d rather throw my weight behind something I know nothing about.
it’s simply capitalism.

 

[Westy]

I’d rather throw my weight behind something I know nothing about.
it’s simply capitalism.

You are in sales, the first thing to know is nothing about what you are selling.

 

[rideit]

I fully embrace this edict.

 

[Westy]

I take the requirements from the customer and give them to the engineers

 

[marshalolson]

So you physically take the specs from the customer?

 

[Leafy]

Does anyone actually go to a spring just for the linearity or do the do it for the reduced stiction?

I'm waiting for the bike industry to discover these. Hyperco played around with them on cars for a little bit before dropping them. You can make a linear, progressive, even digressive spring with them. And just keep an extra washer or two in your pack and you can throw one on after the 2 burgers, 4 dogs, and a 6 pack of ipas to get back to 30% sag.

 

[rideit]

I take the numbers from the engineers and turn them into sizzle.

 

[Kanye West]

Does anyone actually go to a spring just for the linearity or do the do it for the reduced stiction?

I'm waiting for the bike industry to discover these. Hyperco played around with them on cars for a little bit before dropping them. You can make a linear, progressive, even digressive spring with them. And just keep an extra washer or two in your pack and you can throw one on after the 2 burgers, 4 dogs, and a 6 pack of ipas to get back to 30% sag.

Stacking 20 or 30 things that rub in an effort to close the gap in hysteresis between air springs and coil-wound springs is like trying to tune fuel injection cars to be more like carb's, but accidentally fucking the neighbors dog.

 

[StiHacka]

So you physically take the specs from the customer?

That's my job.

 

[Jm_]

Stacking 20 or 30 things that rub in an effort to close the gap in hysteresis between air springs and coil-wound springs is like trying to tune fuel injection cars to be more like carb's, but accidentally fucking the neighbors dog.

Sounds like Mtb suspension to a T.

 

[CrabJoe StretchPants]

So you physically take the specs from the customer?

Not sure if Office Space reference or not....

 

[Westy]

Not sure if Office Space reference or not....

Have you hit your head recently?

 

[CrabJoe StretchPants]

I don't remember

 

[rideit]

I have to say, with my new sales job, I have a depth of experience unmatched by anyone else in the company.