Ok,now I’m getting ready for the Mighty Gwin return.
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Easy Tiger,I cannot stay on top of All these matters as fast as most of you. That is why I enjoy this Site as it has people in the Know,who may,or may not agree with one another. Which I Love.Funny that the guy most oblivious to facts and opening the discussion with a fanboi post asks for facts.
Now I am in the know about a Gwin Fact that you may not know? Gary Housman(could be his brother,don’t think so though)Brought Gwin to Yeti.And so it began.
Now about that crank and destroying the team question I am waiting for.
Avy
Brother,I got your post mixed with another response I had sorry for that. Here is what I wanted to say.
I was aware of the Mnger aspect,but not Ownership. I agree with you as a Owner, it is Hands On. How can one be Both? Impossible. I am distraught with this News.
As a Owner IMHO,it is Straight F1 Racing. I don’t get it. What is he thinking?
Avy
Gary,I don’t understand your comment? What does it mean?
I agree 100% on his comment. I could not have said it better. I have never typed such a beautiful paragraph.
Avy
Remember, just because some dude can ride fast, do not assume he can articulate why or give any worthwhile developmental feedback. This is not a new phenomenon.
It’s Avy,with a capitol A Brother.
Avy
Yes.
Yes Sir.
Avy
Westy, I have been wondering,how is it to my Boy‘s Advanatge to be a Owner? Has any other rider done this? He has travel,lodging,food etc. to pay. I don’t understand How he is to make more money as owner?
Avy
He's not your boy Avy
and he's far from the first rider to be their own manager/team owner
after GT folded at the end of the 2001 season and Peaty was left out in the cold he went on to Co-own Royal Racing and manage/co-own the Royal/Orange race team (brendog, Slugger, Donny etc.) and his own gig with more money from Orange.
it's not particularly interesting at all that Gwin didn't travel to Europe when he himself wasn't racing.
Jon summed it up in post #8
and he's far from the first rider to be their own manager/team owner
after GT folded at the end of the 2001 season and Peaty was left out in the cold he went on to Co-own Royal Racing and manage/co-own the Royal/Orange race team (brendog, Slugger, Donny etc.) and his own gig with more money from Orange.
it's not particularly interesting at all that Gwin didn't travel to Europe when he himself wasn't racing.
Jon summed it up in post #8
Thank You for the Peaty info. You miss read what I said about being a Owner. Also the Mnger issue is nice to know. I’m just wondering how being a owner is more profitable?
Avy
Seriously?
A team rider will (hopefully) recieve a wage, kit, expenses, sponsorship money, perks and bonuses etc.
A team manager will recieve a wage and expenses
A team owner recieves any profit made by the team.
Gwin (by the sounds of it) has taken all 3 roles
I've no idea exactly what you think I misread?
A team rider will (hopefully) recieve a wage, kit, expenses, sponsorship money, perks and bonuses etc.
A team manager will recieve a wage and expenses
A team owner recieves any profit made by the team.
Gwin (by the sounds of it) has taken all 3 roles
I've no idea exactly what you think I misread?
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It is for the freedom to do what you want as an athlete and not be obligated to do things your employer would like.
You also forgot to say that you keep all the money at the end of the year. Toby Henderson said that in a podcast interview he did awhile ago. He said he made a ton of money at the end of the year.
I suspect that's what AG is doing.
Also Jeff S was building those frames the way he always did and the new design was not working for AG. Looks like the new Socom that he's building does not have the BB pivot like the last few have had.
Gary,I said “has any other rider done this?”.Which you replied,”he’s not you’re boy Avy,and he is far from being the first rider to be the mngr/owner.” Do you have an idea now What I am talking about?
Avy
Haven't been paying attention. Has Gwin returned yet?
I’m just over here trying to figure all of this change out for the new season? It has come to my attention that he also wear’s makeup.
Avy
Go back to 27.5. But no companies want to listen to the pros or us.
Pretty sure we all would be if also surrounded by that many gingers.
This is a damning result.
It would be if not a bunch of people had f-ed with the survey.
I might or might not ride a Specialized e-bike (on pavement only) but hate e-bikes, wear only POC gear and upgrade my bike monthly.
So wait as the Team Owner you get the leftover funds that are not spent throughout the season that sponsorship gives you? I know these guys are talking peanuts in the dollar department. When I sent out some inquiries to a number of big companies it was nearly $1.5 Million a year to have 6 paid riders and 4 juniors. I feel like you would have to fold that into the following year or at least until the sponsorship was over before pulling money out.
Fuck Specialized. The Evil Empire,Shame on Them,actually it comes from the Top,so I mean Fuck Mike Sinyard. The amount of bike people lives he destroy’ed because he could. He is a hardworking Man that created a Massive Company out of his trunk of his car,and Will. He is on top now,has been for a while. Mad Respect for these Fact’s and his Quality of Bikes over the years. It cannot be argued. Nor can the Damage he did while on that ride.It would be if not a bunch of people had f-ed with the survey.
I might or might not ride a Specialized e-bike (on pavement only) but hate e-bikes, wear only POC gear and upgrade my bike monthly.
Do not come back tome with “you think he is the first?” Or “welcome to the real world Avy”. Save it.
Avy
These are numbers I have been looking for. What is his Team? Rider’s that is. I’m thinking Gwin with new bike,now the owner,need’s a Win and is more content with makin money than a win? There is more to the story.
Avy
I retract some of that statement. I don’t like “more content makin money than a Win”. I’m sorry,that was a stupid statement,and I don’t even have enough Information to make such a Stupid statement. Forgive Me.
Last,we know he made 1 million a year before being a owner. So I have to assume he will make more as a Owner? This is a Fact No?
Avy