Did the federal gov't drag their ass because they are incompent and unprepared and , or because Bush is prejudiced against blacks?dump said:seems to me like he was ranting from the heart... clearly very emotional.
sanjuro, why do you see race as a non-issue?
A former general interviewed on CNN stated that military forces could have been in New Orleanse within 24 hours. So the question is, what would it have taken to get that kind of response? I am guessing that if it were Bush's campaign contributors trapped that the entire fury of our armed forces would have descended on the city within a day.the Inbred said:can you even come up with a reasonable response to that question?
do something about it?!! do you have any idea what it means if the nat'l guard has been called to your town? PEOPLE WERE BEING RAPED AND MURDERED IN THE STREET and most of the police were overtasked as it was, although, they did what they could with the limited ammo and supplies they had. Just because they are given the green light to shoot does not mean they can just pick out at random who they want to shoot. they have to follow the same use of force guidelines as law enforcement, "to protect themselves or OTHERS from imminent threat of serious bodily harm or death".mserko1 said:kanye is telling the truth, the National guard is to fire at will. If george bush cared , then he would do some **** about it.
BeerDemon said:A former general interviewed on CNN stated that military forces could have been in New Orleanse within 24 hours. So the question is, what would it have taken to get that kind of response? I am guessing that if it were Bush's campaign contributors trapped that the entire fury of our armed forces would have descended on the city within a day.
Honestly, if you care so much, how come this site will not filter out a simple six letter word? Begins with a n, ends with a r, and gets thrown around by some people who inhabit the PD forum.BeerDemon said:So if it were a bunch of rich white folks you think it would have taken 4 days to get some help in there? Until you can answer that question, you can't put the race issue to rest.
BeerDemon said:So if it were a bunch of rich white folks you think it would have taken 4 days to get some help in there? Until you can answer that question, you can't put the race issue to rest.
Like Clinton?Reactor said:Of course not. Rich people are potential political donors, they would be put up in the Lincoln bedroom at the Whitehouse regardless of their color, as long as they were on the democratic donor list.
I can always count on you to make a stupid comment unrelated to the current conversation.stevew said:Honestly, if you care so much, how come this site will not filter out a simple six letter word? Begins with a n, ends with a r, and gets thrown around by some people who inhabit the PD forum.
valve bouncer said:Racism doesn't have to be overt to be present. While I'm sure Bush has no great love for black people I don't think he went out of his way to harm them. Rather Bush and his ilk (on this forum Manimal, RTF, N8 and so on) have a sort of compassion malaise where they are unwilling to consider the urban poor and more specifically the black urban poor as worthy or deserving of help. This attitude leads us to believe there's nothing we can, or more correctly, should do to help them. This mind-set helped cause the situation where the greatest possible urgency was NOT put on helping the people in NO until the horse had bolted.
the Inbred said:
More Repub doublespeak. How can poverty be "tolerable"? These soundbites are often heard from people who have never had to endure poverty. You're right on one front though N8, the democrats certainly need to share some blame. All through the political spectrum the real will to alleviate poverty is sadly lacking. After all, I guess the poor don't vote.N8 said:New Orleans is 80% black and has been governed by democrats for 60 some-odd years and has one of the highest poverty and crime rate in the US. Apparently being governed by democrats ain't the Panacea you liberals would like the rest of us to believe it is. NO is a prefect example of how the democratic party takes advantage of minorities by making them helpless through a never ending stream of government welfare programs in order to stay in power. These programs don't provide a stepping stone out of poverty at all... instead it makes poverty a tolerable trap from which there is little motivation to exit. And as long as the democrat party masters provide the welfare, they can count on getting elected.
valve bouncer said:More Repub doublespeak. How can poverty be "tolerable"? These soundbites are often heard from people who have never had to endure poverty. You're right on one front though N8, the democrats certainly need to share some blame. All through the political spectrum the real will to alleviate poverty is sadly lacking. After all, I guess the poor don't vote.
I'm starting to wonder the same thing...DBeerDemon said:So if it were a bunch of rich white folks you think it would have taken 4 days to get some help in there? Until you can answer that question, you can't put the race issue to rest.
And the republicans are doing something different and better?N8 said:New Orleans is 80% black and has been governed by democrats for 60 some-odd years and has one of the highest poverty and crime rate in the US. Apparently being governed by democrats ain't the Panacea you liberals would like the rest of us to believe it is. NO is a prefect example of how the democratic party takes advantage of minorities by making them helpless through a never ending stream of government welfare programs in order to stay in power. These programs don't provide a stepping stone out of poverty at all... instead it makes poverty a tolerable trap from which there is little motivation to exit. And as long as the democrat party masters provide the welfare, they can count on getting elected.
BeerDemon said:So if it were a bunch of rich white folks you think it would have taken 4 days to get some help in there? Until you can answer that question, you can't put the race issue to rest.
N8 said:Looked to me like there was some white faces in the crowd....
You're either one of the best at trolling, or a total moron...N8 said:Looked to me like there was some white faces in the crowd....
Slugman said:And the republicans are doing something different and better?
At least the Democrats try to help out OTHERS.
The word nigger makes you uncomfortable? To be honest, it doesn't bother me. I don't put people into a nigger/not-nigger basket though. And I don't use it casually in day to day conversation. When I use it in a post, I'm not doing to be cute. I'm doing it to make a point.stevew said:Honestly, if you care so much, how come this site will not filter out a simple six letter word? Begins with a n, ends with a r, and gets thrown around by some people who inhabit the PD forum.
Slugman said:You're either one of the best at trolling, or a total moron...
N8 said:Not to mention that NO only has a vastly larger minority population.
I still don't see where this is a race issue at the federal level anyway. Might be at the state/local level but I'm even not too sure about that.
Typical rightwinged response... question not answered.N8 said:No they don't. They want to stay in power even if it means creating a society completely and totally dependent on the 'government' for their every need.
Neither do I... in fact I cringed when Wolf Blitzer brought on some dude who was claiming it was a race issue. I shook my head as I could hear people all across the country changing the channel to FOX.N8 said:I still don't see where this is a race issue..
Slugman said:However your comment about seeing a bunch of white faces too still stands as idiotic.