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Fuck them.All a Gig-Economy Pioneer Had to Do Was “Politely Disagree” It Was Violating Federal Law and the Labor Department Walked Away
An Obama administration Labor Department investigator estimated that Arise Virtual Solutions owed its network of 20,000 customer service agents $14.2 million. The company paid nothing.
Fuck them too.Instacart is firing every employee who voted to unionize
Instacart is shutting down some of its in-store operations in favor of curbside pickups amid the coronavirus pandemic.www.theverge.com
some real estate agents make shit tons of money for little work at all. Imagine selling a building for 50 million and getting 3%. You gotta share so you get to keep 1%. Selling trailers in Florida must suck though.
Im willing to bet the "gig economy" has been great for a small percentage of the workers employed in said gig economy. Otherwise, it seems like a great way to abuse workers with little recourse on the part of the worker.
Oh I know some real estate agents make a bunch of money and don't do much or anything. And the owners of the agencies they work for make even more money for even less work than the little work the agent does. Point was meant to be that the concept of "treating people who should be employees as independent contractors" is not a new concept, perhaps real estate is not the best example since those people do actually make more-than-reasonable living wages from the model.
Adding insult to injury, isn't there some layer of protection for the company from litigation by the customer? And the worker doesn't have the same? i.e. I could sue my Über driver for something but not Über. Is that right, or can Über be held liable for negligence if they allow a crazy person to drive for them and I end up getting hurt?
Ya I bet it’s in the form of an arbitration clause.
I believe you are correct. As an "independent contractor", the liability rests with the individual. Yay for one more layer of insulation!
The gig economy is a gig, in the same sense that a "minimum wage job is for high schoolers, its not meant to be a survivable income". Some people are forced to go down this path, for a multitude of reasons, and IMO (not putting words in your mouth, or insinuating this is what you are trying to say), it is cruel to suggest that people don't deserve to have the necessities despite working just as hard (and judging by some of our post counts, harder) as many of us. Especially in an economy that can afford it, but chooses not to.
Could probably afford to pay these people a little more fairly if CEO wages were reigned in and not insane multiples of the "line workers".
I agree. People shouldn’t starve or not have health care or a place to live. But does anyone need to be poor in a rich city and not work? Here in San Diego affordable housing is a big issue. But they don’t build enough and it isn’t really affordable. There isn’t profit in it for builders. Builders claim it’s all the fees the city puts on them. And regulations. How do you build a affordable neighborhood for the unmotivated without it turning into a slum anyways. America used to have insane asylums and orphanages. They were bad and we did away with them. Foster care is likely better but homelessness I’m not sure.
"poor people deserve it"
I got a buddy who has trouble living a good life not that he is poor, but he would be in a lot better place if he didnt have 3 dui's, frivolous spending above his means. I sold him a good toyota truck real cheap. Like all of his trucks he literally destroyed it in a year. Now he drives the biggest pile of shit and has to take his kid in it, i think its unsafe. How many trucks should we buy him before he's on his own for a truck? He works construction so it is a necessity for him.
Labor laws in the US were always amazing to me.
That too. When the decision of what to do with profits rests in the hands of an already wealthy executive leadership team, and they have no incentive to return it to the workers, why do it? Might as well give that money to the "job creators" so they can keep on job creating.
Are the fees to build new stuff onerous? Probably. But whack zoning regulations, at least in affluent areas, is the real reason it costs so much to build new housing. Zoning regulations and tax structures benefit home owners, and especially boomer homeowners, and are punitive to anything that's not a single family home.
CEQA and california have problems.
I agree with this. But forcing people to relocate to Kansas to live in government housing does raise some moral questions. It does sound a little like prison.
I wasn't fully referring to homeless people. That shit sucks. But we cant just give them a hovel to live in and not take care of themselves. They need mental help and/or drug rehab. Making them go through what they are going through in a cage disguised as a apartment isnt helping them. Its just getting it out of sight. Some people with mental problems may need to be closely minded.
That's a different conversation. I thought you were referring specifically to homeless people. People with jobs who waste a perfectly good older toyota should be lined up and shot obviously.
I worked as an artiste de sammich at a subway in college and there was a homeless woman who worked there who worked way harder than any of us little college shits. The problem is it didn't matter. There's no ladder she was going to be climbing in that career path. Because of my background and getting some degree thing I knew I was leaving. Her husband left her in her late 20s. It was pretty shitty but 'unmotivated' she was not.
My larger point was that there are plenty of office jobs lazy fucks show up to, do very little and make 150k a year. They are vastly more unmotivated than people stocking target shelves for years in my experience.
Realistically though your buddy should have access to some help to get him off the sauce and restore some self worth.
But you know, talkin bout feelins is for sissies.
The no water issue is going to become a deal killer as time advances. Rivers are dying or dead in the west, water tables have been lowered to nothing. This is going to wind up driving migration, and that's going to be a shit show.
Ya I dont get it. I live out east, I hate it here. Too many people, too many assholes. One of our offices is down town, I prefer to stay at mine down be the border.
This.
Reference "Pullman Strike" (https://www.zinnedproject.org/news/tdih/pullman-strike/) also Ludlow strike massacre (https://www.zinnedproject.org/news/tdih/ludlow-massacre/).
... When the people shall have no more to eat, they will eat the rich!
Rosseau...
Let them eat cake!
I mean, I live in a socialist country similar to Venezuela after all. And we have no FREEDOM to own assault rifles, .50 BMG sniper rifles and have to rely on the police for home defense. You really do not want that!
I dunno, distract the unwashed masses with enough freedom, guns, and churches and it sure seems like the tolerance for lack of a living wage isn’t going away anytime soon. Oh, and that our system tends to keep brown people just slightly more poor than the poor white folk...
