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johnbryanpeters

johnbryanpeters

Hero
Sep 27, 2001
36,817
18,392
Making moss sad in New Haven, Vermont
Whenever the time comes to replace the Tracer, I have been thinking about selection criteria. So far it would include:
- Metal frame
- Not from a manufacturer that produces e-bikes
- 27'5" wheels
- 2.4" tires

Of no particular concern at present:
- What shifting system
- What braking system

Nice but not necessary:
- Raw finish

I'm not sure whether I'd stay with 160 mm travel or ratchet it down a notch. Weight's not an issue, what I might call playfulness might be.

Since my usual replacement reason is a broken frame, I believe that I have a while to think about it.
 
jonKranked

jonKranked

Detective Dookie
Nov 10, 2005
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johnbryanpeters said:
GG's carbon, as I understand it, so no.
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they're one of the few carbon frames worth considering IMO. they're doing thermoplastic vs thermoset (which is what all other carbon bikes currently on the market are). and their production is still in the US. also front triangles are carbon, back ends are still aluminum.

take a look at the Privateer bikes. good looking alloy bikes without totally insane prices.
 
HAB

HAB

Chelsea from Seattle
Apr 28, 2007
11,592
2,028
Seattle
I'd be surprised if there isn't an updated aluminum Scout in the works. Transition just updated that bike and have a history of releasing the carbon version first.
 
iRider

iRider

Turbo Monkey
Apr 5, 2008
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3,168
Full Trucker said:
also seriously, that Tracer hasn’t broken yet? I’d buy a lottery ticket! ;)
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Do you just repeat what you read on the internet or do you have data on the rate of failures of Intense frames? Because there are quite a couple of people that ride them and while they break they do not seem to have a higher rate than other manufacturers.
 
jonKranked

jonKranked

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Nov 10, 2005
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iRider said:
Do you just repeat what you read on the internet or do you have data on the rate of failures of Intense frames? Because there are quite a couple of people that ride them and while they break they do not seem to have a higher rate than other manufacturers.
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how long have you been mountain biking?

:D
 
Adventurous

Adventurous

Starshine Bro
Mar 19, 2014
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Crawlorado
Any particular reason for going with 27.5" wheels vs 29"? There are more choices if you are open to a set of wagon wheels.

Like say, the Reeb Sqweeb (no affiliation with the actual 'Squeeb). 150mm travel, aluminum, made in USA, comes in a raw finish.

 
iRider

iRider

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Apr 5, 2008
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jonKranked said:
how long have you been mountain biking?

:D
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Over 30 years and I own Intense frames for 20 years. They are aluminum frames on the lighter side of the spectrum, so they will fail eventually. As does every other frame of similar build.
 
Full Trucker

Full Trucker

Frikkin newb!!!
Feb 26, 2003
11,140
8,780
Exit, CO
iRider said:
Do you just repeat what you read on the internet or do you have data on the rate of failures of Intense frames? Because there are quite a couple of people that ride them and while they break they do not seem to have a higher rate than other manufacturers.
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Ah yes, I remember my first week posting on Ridemonkey too.
 
johnbryanpeters

johnbryanpeters

Hero
Sep 27, 2001
36,817
18,392
Making moss sad in New Haven, Vermont
jonKranked said:
they're one of the few carbon frames worth considering IMO. they're doing thermoplastic vs thermoset (which is what all other carbon bikes currently on the market are). and their production is still in the US. also front triangles are carbon, back ends are still aluminum.

take a look at the Privateer bikes. good looking alloy bikes without totally insane prices.
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Not carbon, because it's an environmental nightmare and because I dislike its failure behavior.
Adventurous said:
Any particular reason for going with 27.5" wheels vs 29"? There are more choices if you are open to a set of wagon wheels.
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Habit, and because I'm thinking of tweaking towards responsiveness.
 
6thElement

6thElement

Schrodinger's Immigrant
Jul 29, 2008
17,241
14,717
The no e-bike thing is tough to achieve now, but as mentioned above by @amishmatt definitely take a look at Banshee as I think they can fit all of your requirements. They don't offer completes so you'd be able to build it up exactly as you want. I think the Spitfire hits your list. They're on my potential list of brands for when I replace my 7+ year old Turner trail bike.
 
Westy

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
56,016
22,047
Sleazattle
iRider said:
Over 30 years and I own Intense frames for 20 years. They are aluminum frames on the lighter side of the spectrum, so they will fail eventually. As does every other frame of similar build.
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JBP is also on the lighter side of the spectrum. Actually I think he is pretty much just made of straw stuffed into human clothing.
 
canadmos

canadmos

Cake Tease
May 29, 2011
21,993
21,522
Canaderp
2nd the Banshees. No ebikes, metal, but made in Asia. I'd definitely like a go on one.

Aren't the aluminum Transitions very heavy?
 
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