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His definition needs a bit of work, but he's not wrong. Out here you can get pretty jiggy with some long sight-lines, but there are other places with major blind corners that it *really* is necessary to dial it back. Enchanted Forest is one place I can think of where you can *very* easily get ahead of yourself in the speed department (and I've been guilty of it).
Bottom line out here is you GOTTA be able to stop when you come up on Granny and her 3 grandkids taking a walk in the woods. But you knew that already.
You've ridden Deer Creek, right? That lower section in the scrub oak... fuck. I usually go through the upper scrub at walking speed 'cause once the leaves come out I can't see SHIT more than 8 feet ahead.
Listen, bitch, when I damn well feel like being a dick I will. Got that dumbfuck? Now shaddup and get me a beer, and it goddam well better be good beer or I'll slap you silly.Have you tried being a dick to people? That will generally fix that whole politeness crap.
you should probably also promptly get the fuck off his lawn when said good beer has been delivered!
Go get him a switch!Listen, bitch, when I damn well feel like being a dick I will. Got that dumbfuck? Now shaddup and get me a beer, and it goddam well better be good beer or I'll slap you silly.
All I got are these right now:Listen, bitch, when I damn well feel like being a dick I will. Got that dumbfuck? Now shaddup and get me a beer, and it goddam well better be good beer or I'll slap you silly.
Just because my ass is out of shape doesn't mean the ROW has changed. Ride the speed for your environment; step off for uphill unless they say to pass; stop for hikers and horses. I will even ask equestrians if they want me to walk off trail for the horse. It's called being polite and it's a simple concept.
I was an ass in the past, but still gave ROW even way back, but the reality of people needing to get their shit together kicked in when we had a bunch of guys not let up when hiking with Haley. They came through at full clip including pulling off trail to keep speed. There was no passing space, plenty of sight line to see we were there, and absolute space to yield. That shit is ridiculous.
I got the Air Force on the phone. They just need your coordinates and Stoneys credit card info for the Air Strike. I'm on hold. So hurry up....
Bought the same case at Costco. Pretty good brews in thereAll I got are these right now:
FTFY
NTTAWWT
There's good gnar-chunk terrain around Tuscon that is seldom used by other trail-users, Milagrosa is one. There is the 4K descent off of Pinal Peak, although you'd probably need a clearing-party first, still there is a pretty dedicated group of people that usually go up each summer/spring and do it. There is Area 52 "freeride" slickrock riding. Yeah, Sunrise blows chunks, but you already know this. Decent sight-lines on many of the DH trails on South Mountain, except National (which is a sh*t show at times due to so many hikers and riders), and that riding is much closer. I lived in AZ for 11 years, there are plenty of places to "let it go" a bit more, where the chances of encountering someone are very slim. You still need to have a measure of control in many of these, but you can relax a little more on them. No sympathy for the DH riders that ride the popular/crowded trails and don't yield to other users. There are lots of ways to get away from it all. There's a way to drop Mt Lemon too and I'd wager that past the very top, most of it is largely abandoned.
True, but trails like Millie, CDO, etc, aren't places that one would typically ride all the time. They are fun when you want a challenge. The top of Lemmon is great. Aspen is one on my favorite rides, still over an hours drive away. Also requires a tough climb to the top or shuttle. Any place within 20/30 minutes is usually gonna have someone. Best chance of that not happening is to ride some of the trails futher back at Starr Pass. I will have to check out Pinal peak.
I'm with literally everybody else in that the downhill rider has to stop. It's easier to start going again for the downhill rider, and it forces the downhill rider to ride within the limits of control. Your favorite, IMBA, agrees: https://www.imba.com/sites/default/files/Team_IMBA/RulesOfTheTrail.pdf
His definition needs a bit of work, but he's not wrong. Out here you can get pretty jiggy with some long sight-lines, but there are other places with major blind corners that it *really* is necessary to dial it back. Enchanted Forest is one place I can think of where you can *very* easily get ahead of yourself in the speed department (and I've been guilty of it).
Bottom line out here is you GOTTA be able to stop when you come up on Granny and her 3 grandkids taking a walk in the woods. But you knew that already.
i find it hysterical that i make one comment in regards to the validity an argument point and you dense fuckwads jump to the conclusion that i not only actually *agree* with it but also advocate for it. reread what i said. i only stated that i consider it a valid point (because yes, it takes a longer duration to stop when traveling at higher speeds).
Goddam engineers. They're worse than lawyers.i find it hysterical that i make one comment in regards to the validity an argument point and you dense fuckwads jump to the conclusion that i not only actually *agree* with it but also advocate for it. reread what i said. i only stated that i consider it a valid point (because yes, it takes a longer duration to stop when traveling at higher speeds).
i've been working in a regulated industry almost my entire career, and i do a lot of technical writing. fuckin' notified bodies.Goddam engineers. They're worse than lawyers.
you should see some of the boring drivel i have to write
Srsly. I can't even imagine. I fucking hate writing *any* kind of technical documentation.
I see it all the time, just look a few posts up...
Well, look closely at your original post, it’s not the physics of it, you presented that this was used as an argument for uphill yielding to downhill. I was pointing out in the context of that argument that if that’s your reasoning, that you can’t stop in time for other trail users, you are out of control.i find it hysterical that i make one comment in regards to the validity an argument point and you dense fuckwads jump to the conclusion that i not only actually *agree* with it but also advocate for it. reread what i said. i only stated that i consider it a valid point (because yes, it takes a longer duration to stop when traveling at higher speeds).
But now it’s friday.
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Why did the lizards kill half the embedded pictures?
Why did the lizards kill half the embedded pictures?