You could service it with oleoresin capsicum.I want a hub that sounds exactly like a bear scrambling in the nearby brush.
You could service it with oleoresin capsicum.I want a hub that sounds exactly like a bear scrambling in the nearby brush.
The Onyx on my DH bike spins longer than the I9 Hydra on my trail bike. Way less drag.Pretty sure that mechanism is high drag, since it's basically "dragging" the sprags along the whole time. Totally silent though.
A riding buddy here broke several of the original hubs, but he's a monster and breaks every hub.
My voice gets hoarse yelling at hikers, so I like my hubs to make some noise.
hows it hold up for dh use?The Onyx on my DH bike spins longer than the I9 Hydra on my trail bike. Way less drag.
But then again it would, if the DH bike has heavier wheels and tires...The Onyx on my DH bike spins longer than the I9 Hydra on my trail bike. Way less drag.
theres a lot of friction between you guysThis argument is such a drag.
Not really. Yes, the hubs are heavier, but the hub really isn't rotational weight that would give the wheel momentum. Hubs Onyx Classic, rims are Stan's MK4 28h, double butted spokes, alloy nipples. Tires Maxxis DHF 2.5 DD front, 2.4 Shorty DD rear.But then again it would, if the DH bike has heavier wheels and tires...
DT Squorx alloy nipples with really inconsistent levels of threadlocker go higher up on the kill list.alloy nipples = kill list
I bought this E-book thingy, printed out about six pages that are useful to me.They arrived today. Spokes are prepped. Brass nipples. Stans rims. Borrowing a Park stand to do the build. Kind of nervous. It's been a while.
I think there is some legit concern with hub strength that would have me concerned with a high-torque ebike application. I bet the hub could be reinforced because it sounds like the problem is on the shell side/where the clutch engages rather than the clutch itself.On a more serious note, wouldn't the Onyx design be better for ebikes than high POE ratchets/pawls, since it kind of eases into the engagement? I know a lot of ebikes that come with DT hubs get spec'd with the 18t pawls to try and address it, but I've heard of people exploding even those on their ebikes.
I was really tempted to try Onyx on my last wheel build (the idea of silent hub and just hearing tires was appealing), but then I realized that I'd hear every little creak and rattle on my bike all the more, so went with a loud hub instead.
if anything i would think its the opposite - someone was telling me that its either sprag clutches or one way bearings don't hold up well under high torque. i could be wrong, but i swear someone knowledgeable on the subject told me that once.On a more serious note, wouldn't the Onyx design be better for ebikes than high POE ratchets/pawls, since it kind of eases into the engagement? I know a lot of ebikes that come with DT hubs get spec'd with the 18t pawls to try and address it, but I've heard of people exploding even those on their ebikes.
I was really tempted to try Onyx on my last wheel build (the idea of silent hub and just hearing tires was appealing), but then I realized that I'd hear every little creak and rattle on my bike all the more, so went with a loud hub instead.
My friend, an engineer here, ran that test.
is the test published?My friend, an engineer here, ran that test.
It was more about what grease though...that has a major impact.
Which one the colored charts or the blue?My friend, an engineer here, ran that test.
It was more about what grease though...that has a major impact.
Colored. That's why the low temps. At low temps some hubs and lubes are like peanut butter. We typically replace grease in some of the bearings with low-temp grease that doesn't. Molykote.Which one the colored charts or the blue?
Good job 907 isn't local specializing in fat bikes then!Colored. That's why the low temps. At low temps some hubs and lubes are like peanut butter. We typically replace grease in some of the bearings with low-temp grease that doesn't. Molykote.
I think fatback was able to get low-temp grease speced from the factory or something like that.Good job 907 isn't local specializing in fat bikes then!
Original or the Vesper?I just ordered an Onyx rear hub for my 2015 Intense Tracer. It has been on my list for a while.
so it was more an assessment of grease viscosity at low temps than pure hub drag? were these factory greases/lubes?Colored. That's why the low temps. At low temps some hubs and lubes are like peanut butter. We typically replace grease in some of the bearings with low-temp grease that doesn't. Molykote.
Yes, but the factors weren't isolated (same grease applied to each) so there still could be more hub drag in some of them.so it was more an assessment of grease viscosity at low temps than pure hub drag? were these factory greases/lubes?
So far good. Bought the bike used, put in new hybrid bearings and they're running nice & smooth.hows it hold up for dh use?