[eric strt6]

Sheriff friend recommended the for the wife: lightweight, accurate and cannot jam when you absolutely need it to fire.

S&W's Model 986 9mm - American Handgunner

When His Editorship suggested I do some work with a Smith & Wesson Performance Center gun I was eager to jump on the ship. This was until I found out the gun was a 2.5" 9mm revolver. While I didn’t say anything with my “outside” voice, I was certainly thinking, “What am I going to do with this?”...

americanhandgunner.com

 

[Nick]

What will she use it for Eric, CCW? Home defense? I mean a 2.5” barrel is about as short as you’d ever want, will dampen less of the recoil and produce less energy.

Revolvers are simple and mostly foolproof, for sure. If it’s going to live in the house or trailer, have her try a 4” barrel too for comparison.

See if she can shoot it accurately, then just focus on not pissing her off.

 

[johnbryanpeters]

 

[4xBoy]

Good gun, buy it, be done.


Now, get ready for, to short barrel, wrong caliber, not auto, blah blah.

 

[eric strt6]

What will she use it for Eric, CCW? Home defense? I mean a 2.5” barrel is about as short as you’d ever want, will dampen less of the recoil and produce less energy.

Revolvers are simple and mostly foolproof, for sure. If it’s going to live in the house or trailer, have her try a 4” barrel too for comparison.

See if she can shoot it accurately, then just focus on not pissing her off.

A to shoot Maga's

Seriously she is a damn good shot, was on the Rifle Team, in the navy as a pilot she was very proficient with her issued side arm

CCW and for when she is alone in the camper at a horse show

 

[SkaredShtles]

CCW and for when she is alone in the camper at a horse show

I've heard tell that those horse shows can be *super* dangerous.

 

[eric strt6]

I've heard tell that those horse shows can be *super* dangerous.

there are groups that go to those show facilities to break in and steal valuables from vehicles and tack rooms. Its the outsiders not the attendees that you worry about

 

[DaveW]

So if used it will be with no to almost no warning and most probably at super short distances in a cramped environment?
Yeah short barrel would be the way to go IMO, easy to deploy and a 9mm at sub 20ft, I would think would be sufficient even with a short barrel if they are not wearing armor.

Mind you it's been 25 years since I last played with a revolver?

 

[Jm_]

I totally agree at 20' and shorter that's the way to go. Modern 9mm performance is great and no reason to go to other calibers like 38, 380, 357, 40, 45, etc. Might as well get what is most common and available. But, for distances greater, this can be akin to throwing rocks or the gun itself, since the short sight radius, trigger pull and kick will make it pretty impractical to use. I think the main thing I'd be thinking about is how small/comfortable it is for the sight radius and what any comparable semi autos like a G43 or some of the newer competitors size-out at. Still, nothing wrong with a revolver and it's good for all the reasons you stated.

 

[Adventurous]

There's something to be said for the capacity of a semi-automatic. Under duress, even individuals with comprehensive training breakdown and can struggle to putting rounds center mass. 10 chances > 7.

A well maintained semi-automatic loaded with quality ammunition is pretty damned reliable.

 

[Jm_]

There's something to be said for the capacity of a semi-automatic. Under duress, even individuals with comprehensive training breakdown and can struggle to putting rounds center mass. 10 chances > 7.

A well maintained semi-automatic loaded with quality ammunition is pretty damned reliable.

Yeah, but a lot of people don't want to walk around with one in the chamber with no safety (striker fired pistols are most common in this category of concealables) and then you got to rack it for any use. The revolver is simpler and for this use, simple is usually better. Capacity wise, it's right there with the slim single-stack autos and the ones with more tend to become bricks real fast. I too would choose an auto over revolver for this, but I can't fault the logic at all. It's the same logic I use to justify the revolver .44 mag I have for bears and nazis.

 

[Nick]

Yeah, but a lot of people don't want to walk around with one in the chamber with no safety (striker fired pistols are most common in this category of concealables) and then you got to rack it for any use. The revolver is simpler and for this use, simple is usually better. Capacity wise, it's right there with the slim single-stack autos and the ones with more tend to become bricks real fast. I too would choose an auto over revolver for this, but I can't fault the logic at all. It's the same logic I use to justify the revolver .44 mag I have for bears and nazis.

My old carry is a P229 DA/SA which was failsafe for carrying armed. I'd say that is the perfect defense handgun.

Now, about that mac and cheese. Lately I've liked the white cheddar and colby jack.

 

[Adventurous]

Yeah, but a lot of people don't want to walk around with one in the chamber with no safety (striker fired pistols are most common in this category of concealables) and then you got to rack it for any use. The revolver is simpler and for this use, simple is usually better. Capacity wise, it's right there with the slim single-stack autos and the ones with more tend to become bricks real fast. I too would choose an auto over revolver for this, but I can't fault the logic at all. It's the same logic I use to justify the revolver .44 mag I have for bears and nazis.

Understood. As an old friend once told me, if you're carrying because you're in a position to have your life threatened, it's irresponsible not to have a round chambered.

But most of us aren't in that position and a whole lotta people inadvertently shoot their dicks off with that kind of thinking. So there's that.

Maybe some bear mace, ala Dog the Bounty Hunter?

 

[4xBoy]

Understood. As an old friend once told me, if you're carrying because you're in a position to have your life threatened, it's irresponsible not to have a round chambered.

But most of us aren't in that position and a whole lotta people inadvertently shoot their dicks off with that kind of thinking. So there's that.

Maybe some bear mace, ala Dog the Bounty Hunter?

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Bear mace, in a camper, hilarious way to go.

 

[Adventurous]

Also, might be the naysayer here, but the red tape required to concealed carry a firearm (and the multi-state implications if it's a traveling gun) & the legal ramifications of deploying it for non-life threatening scenarios (again, state dependent), would make me awfully hesitant. Sometimes it's better to take the L and let insurance cover your losses. Even when legal and justified, using lethal force on another human will upend your life. Gotta have to do a real serious risk assessment before you come out on the gun as a solution side of the spectrum.

Then again maybe I'm out of touch with the threat of roving horse show bandits these days.

 

[SkaredShtles]

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Then again maybe I'm out of touch with the threat of roving horse show bandits these days.

This made me chukkle.

 

[chuffer]

Also, might be the naysayer here, but the red tape required to concealed carry a firearm (and the multi-state implications if it's a traveling gun) & the legal ramifications of deploying it for non-life threatening scenarios (again, state dependent), would make me awfully hesitant. Sometimes it's better to take the L and let insurance cover your losses. Even when legal and justified, using lethal force on another human will upend your life. Gotta have to do a real serious risk assessment before you come out on the gun as a solution side of the spectrum.

Then again maybe I'm out of touch with the threat of roving horse show bandits these days.

^This. OP is an adult and a thinker, but I couldn't help running through the usual scenarios in my head. Just thinking about dealing with a justified homicide - cops, lawyers, paperwork, cleanup (in the literal sense), etc. Nope. Take my shit.

 

[eric strt6]

one we aren't female and likely to be raped and killed, she is
two no more than 7 round mags in CA
CCW is not that hard for her to get when the retired Sheriff is our best friend
She has been trained to kill humans in the military and knows when to fire or not

 

[eric strt6]

Oh and when we visited my sister and BIL we went to their gun club. Ruth shot my sisters 38 and my BIL 9mm glock. I don't recall her missing a single center hit. It was wild.

 

[Jm_]

Also, might be the naysayer here, but the red tape required to concealed carry a firearm (and the multi-state implications if it's a traveling gun) & the legal ramifications of deploying it for non-life threatening scenarios (again, state dependent), would make me awfully hesitant. Sometimes it's better to take the L and let insurance cover your losses. Even when legal and justified, using lethal force on another human will upend your life. Gotta have to do a real serious risk assessment before you come out on the gun as a solution side of the spectrum.

Then again maybe I'm out of touch with the threat of roving horse show bandits these days.

In the reddest red states, you don't need anything to carry concealed. It's becoming dog-eat-dog too. I carry the bear spray when on city paths, but the range isn't great.

 

[Adventurous]

In the reddest red states, you don't need anything to carry concealed. It's becoming dog-eat-dog too. I carry the bear spray when on city paths, but the range isn't great.

Those horsie trips are about to get quite a bit longer.