Looking to get a new (lighter) frame this winter and have been looking into the 223 but with it being a UK based company how does one go about getting one into their hands and are the prices on the site the best you can get? I've also got a shiver and the site says the fork range is 180-200mm but I really don't want to give up the shiver..I'll end up with a wheelbase of 46 I beleive. I'm kinda thinking I don't need a 9" frame anyways. I was reading a few posts and people complain of it bucking your feet off..I don't use clipless and probably never will, is it really that bad? If I do decide to bite the bullet I'll want one in white so if anyone out there is willing to sell their white good condition frame I'll buy, I'm 5'10, 185lbs. If anyone else has any frame suggestions speak up, I was looking into the DHR but that cost more, also liking the The Fly although it is a freeride bike I'm sure it can hold its own.