Our military's high standards...
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Not a problem, we will get all the quality candidates after the draft is implemented during the Iranian war.
Wait, are the ultra liberals who constantly complain that punishments are too harsh for drug/child sex crime convictions now also complaining that these same people are being given a second chance?
It looks to be that way dude.
You don't find it odd that we spend billions of dollars of tax money every year on the "War on Drugs" and then turn around and shrug our shoulders and say, "Hey, they aren't so bad!" when we need some more cannon fodder?
Where'd you get the idea that a minor drug conviction on child molestation are on the same level?
I dont find it odd at all. Actually it seems rather practical. Recruiting numbers are down for obvious reasons, increase the pool. Its not exactly difficult to see why they did it. But then you get the same people who always want to lambast the government for treating criminals to harshly, now lambasting the military for allowing them into another government program and helping them out. Obviously if the military had their way, they'd take nothing but highschool graduates with no criminal pasts at all. Desperate times...
One doesn't have to be the Oracle of Delphi to see that that one's comming...
You believe that the moral high ground was on top of the WTC?
Explains some of the opinions you post around here.
as long as they didn't inhale a dick...cause 'don't ask, don't tell'
There is a difference between (il)legality and morality. Perhaps you should learn it.
And they military has been using waivers for people with these offenses for years.
Amazing that we can violate both at the same time, huh?
it was a joke you tool.
PS: ATHF now sucks, so I guess your avatar is appropriate for you.
Way back when I first came in, it wasn't uncommon to run into guys who were told by a judge to join the service or go to jail. There is no block as to whether they can suceed in the military or not. Just as people with other backgrounds can flip, flop or fly on their own...
"Felons for fodder" is the new slogan for the Army. They need all the recruiting help they can get. If recruiter numbers drop much further, the recruiters will be the next unit they mobilize. That's scraping th bottom of the barrel right there.
Nah, it was the Empire who was all for sanctions, tolls and was holding the universe in its grip, so they did it on them selves to decieve the Senate. It was the only way they could get them to vote their way, by blaming it on that the Commander, who gave the coordinates, was a Rebel..
Hey, that was Rebel Base.
The Commander was later delt with by the guy in the big hat.
There wil be no draft under this administration. They want the war to continue.
Well now I feel better.
I can't image why our troops torture prisoners. It's such a mystery.
Maybe because the Abu Ghraib prison was run by National Guard who weren't trained well enough for what they had to do.
Maybe because the people who were doing the torturing were actually under a lot of stress, and had no way to cope with it.
Maybe because the people who were doing the torturing were given orders and didn't know better.
No, it must be that the entire military is filled with criminals. Yeah, that must be it.
No way the American public goes for a draft - no way. It would stop the war TOMORROW. That's why there will be no draft under this administration, as they want the war to continue. It's really as simple as that.
The rich/powerful will still find a way out of the draft. (just look at Clinton, Bush, Cheney for a few examples) Johnny Suburb will never let it happen. You want to see REAL war protests? Start with a draft.
No, that's just one more reason.No, it must be that the entire military is filled with criminals. Yeah, that must be it.
They have a plan, we're just not privy to it. How do I know? Because the plan/lie they tell us changes every 6 months.
What's the end game? You'll have to ask Cheney.
Didn't know better?
I try to allways see the good things in people too. Lyndie England was prolly one helluva cricket player. But she was also ignorant and wicked.Orders? Hell yeh!!
They're not small things. The Neo Con ideology have to be counted in to that aswell.
You need to train people not to do the things that were done in Abu Ghraib? Boy, the national guard must sure get the pick of the litter.Maybe because the Abu Ghraib prison was run by National Guard who weren't trained well enough for what they had to do.
Maybe because the people who were doing the torturing were actually under a lot of stress, and had no way to cope with it.
Maybe because the people who were doing the torturing were given orders and didn't know better.
No, it must be that the entire military is filled with criminals. Yeah, that must be it.
the really scary part of the relaxed standards is the infiltration of the criminal gang element into the military, gaining COMBAT experience to bring back to your neighborhood. I just completed one of the nations most intense gang identification and interdiction schools in jacksonville, FL and all i can say is....SCARY. put it this way, law enforcement nationwide is outmanned about 200:1 against verified, hardcore gangmembers and it's a fine line that keeps it from all out war. if you thought the mob was big, the organized street gangs make them look like a country club.
i found a video on youtube that touches on the military/gang issue.
i found a video on youtube that touches on the military/gang issue.
talk about your blowback.
Military gone bad using their skills on civvy street is hardly new.
a handful of nutjobs over the years is nowhere near the threat posed by 50,000 hardcore gangmembers joining the military for the sole purpose of gaining urban warfare training. "thugs" are not idiots like society would depict them. they are highly organized with their personnel in all facets of society to include congress and law enforcement. nothing new to hollywood, of course, but it's much bigger than even they depict.
I love hyperbole. I'd imagine that there is also the chance that some of these gang bangers would leave the armed forces and go on to live productive lives that perhaps they otherwise wouldn't have.
i guess i'll just return to my little underworld where i don't have to simplify the reality of the problem to make people understand that this is not a joke or a phase or fad. people died to get us the information we have and those few who do get out and try to live productive lives will always be looking over their shoulder for the punishment of leaving the gang. gangmembers live under a "thirdworld" concept where the values and concious that the rest of of share are not accepted. it's a mentality that most middle-class "secondworlders" will never understand.
And once again, the Bible shows us the way to go here. Let me explain:
Gang members frequently have identifying marks. Tattoos, that sort of thing, right? Now, if we take David (God was a big fan of his, you may recall) as an example, all we need to do is organize these guys into units, and send them out into the most dangerous places in Iraq on foot. It's a win win. Either they do the job and take care of our little insurgency problem, or they die, like Uriah did. If King David can do it for some nookie, we should be able to do it to help the gang problem out, right?