Our World is *****d
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Jenn was reading that to me the other day. Pretty f**ked up.
I think if anyone in New York recognizes that guy, he's going to wish for a quick, painless death.
I think if anyone in New York recognizes that guy, he's going to wish for a quick, painless death.
The guy got away with 65 bucks....w0w...I want to kick his ass...
New Yorkers Livid Over Attack on Woman
By NAHAL TOOSI
AP
NEW YORK (March 14) - Here's a tip for the guy who beat up a 101-year-old woman in a walker and took off with her purse: Get out of New York.
The vicious mugging, caught on surveillance tape, has sparked outrage in a city where people are accustomed to hearing about strange and violent crimes. Police have launched an all-out manhunt, but it's not just the cops who want the villain's head.
"I could hold him, and let the woman beat him up," said Joe Sarju, 59, who lives in the Queens neighborhood where the attack occurred. "I'd love to beat him, but then they would lock me up."
The heartlessness of the March 4 attack is clearly conveyed on the grainy, black-and-white videotape, which has now been broadcast well beyond New York.
In it, 101-year-old Rose Morat is trying to leave her apartment building to go to church. The mugger, a man who looms over the senior citizen and is holding onto a bicycle, pretends to help her get through the vestibule.
Then, he turns to grab Morat's head and delivers three hard punches to her face, and swipes her purse. The dazed victim tries to reach for her purse when the mugger hits her again, pushing her and her walker to the ground.
He got away with $33 and Morat's house keys. She suffered a fractured cheekbone and spent time in the hospital. The attack didn't break Morat's spirit, though: She has said in the days since that if she had been just a bit younger, she would have gone after the guy.
"I'm a very strong woman," she said. "I've been that way my whole life."
The NYPD has assigned dozens of detectives to the case and shown every uniformed officer in the city the surveillance video. Police are canvassing nearby residential buildings and businesses.
They believe the same man also attacked 85-year-old Solange Elizee, another neighborhood resident, shortly after robbing Morat. Elizee suffered facial cuts and bruises. The mugger took off with $32 and her wedding band.
Based on the victims' memories and the tape, police say the attacker is a black man in his 30s, about 5 feet 10 and 165 pounds. He wore a winter jacket with a fur-lined hood. The police department said Tuesday there were no new developments.
Several posters have been placed throughout the generally quiet Queens neighborhood, urging anyone with information to call with tips. So far, at least $18,000 in reward money is being promised by several sources, including the police.
On Tuesday, lawmakers in the state Senate proposed making it a felony to assault anyone older than 70. Currently, such assaults are misdemeanors, punishable by no more than a year in jail.
Meanwhile, New Yorkers struggled for the right words to describe the attacker because expletives just don't seem adequate. In interviews and letters to newspapers, some suggested he deserves life imprisonment -- or perhaps until he's 101.
John Brown, 45, said the mugger must have been on drugs, because no rational person would do such a thing. "That was a cowardly act," he fumed.
Others were reminded of the perils that could face their own parents and grandparents. Some wondered whether the mugger's mother was alive.
"My mom is 95, and if someone ever raised a hand to her ... they'd be dead," said Anthony Riccardelli, 58, who works near the crime scene.
For others, it's not just about getting revenge. Glenridge senior center in Queens decided to bring back self-defense courses after receiving dozens of phone calls on the topic after the attacks.
Susan Simonetti, the center's executive director, also had a warning for the mugger: "Pick on somebody your own age."
By NAHAL TOOSI
AP
NEW YORK (March 14) - Here's a tip for the guy who beat up a 101-year-old woman in a walker and took off with her purse: Get out of New York.
The vicious mugging, caught on surveillance tape, has sparked outrage in a city where people are accustomed to hearing about strange and violent crimes. Police have launched an all-out manhunt, but it's not just the cops who want the villain's head.
"I could hold him, and let the woman beat him up," said Joe Sarju, 59, who lives in the Queens neighborhood where the attack occurred. "I'd love to beat him, but then they would lock me up."
The heartlessness of the March 4 attack is clearly conveyed on the grainy, black-and-white videotape, which has now been broadcast well beyond New York.
In it, 101-year-old Rose Morat is trying to leave her apartment building to go to church. The mugger, a man who looms over the senior citizen and is holding onto a bicycle, pretends to help her get through the vestibule.
Then, he turns to grab Morat's head and delivers three hard punches to her face, and swipes her purse. The dazed victim tries to reach for her purse when the mugger hits her again, pushing her and her walker to the ground.
He got away with $33 and Morat's house keys. She suffered a fractured cheekbone and spent time in the hospital. The attack didn't break Morat's spirit, though: She has said in the days since that if she had been just a bit younger, she would have gone after the guy.
"I'm a very strong woman," she said. "I've been that way my whole life."
The NYPD has assigned dozens of detectives to the case and shown every uniformed officer in the city the surveillance video. Police are canvassing nearby residential buildings and businesses.
They believe the same man also attacked 85-year-old Solange Elizee, another neighborhood resident, shortly after robbing Morat. Elizee suffered facial cuts and bruises. The mugger took off with $32 and her wedding band.
Based on the victims' memories and the tape, police say the attacker is a black man in his 30s, about 5 feet 10 and 165 pounds. He wore a winter jacket with a fur-lined hood. The police department said Tuesday there were no new developments.
Several posters have been placed throughout the generally quiet Queens neighborhood, urging anyone with information to call with tips. So far, at least $18,000 in reward money is being promised by several sources, including the police.
On Tuesday, lawmakers in the state Senate proposed making it a felony to assault anyone older than 70. Currently, such assaults are misdemeanors, punishable by no more than a year in jail.
Meanwhile, New Yorkers struggled for the right words to describe the attacker because expletives just don't seem adequate. In interviews and letters to newspapers, some suggested he deserves life imprisonment -- or perhaps until he's 101.
John Brown, 45, said the mugger must have been on drugs, because no rational person would do such a thing. "That was a cowardly act," he fumed.
Others were reminded of the perils that could face their own parents and grandparents. Some wondered whether the mugger's mother was alive.
"My mom is 95, and if someone ever raised a hand to her ... they'd be dead," said Anthony Riccardelli, 58, who works near the crime scene.
For others, it's not just about getting revenge. Glenridge senior center in Queens decided to bring back self-defense courses after receiving dozens of phone calls on the topic after the attacks.
Susan Simonetti, the center's executive director, also had a warning for the mugger: "Pick on somebody your own age."
People have been calling police stations in NYC saying they'll beat the hell out of the guy when they find him. Police stations are having a tough time because they're getting no tips, just threats.
The guy followed the mugging of the 85 year old by riding away on a PINK bike.
The guy followed the mugging of the 85 year old by riding away on a PINK bike.
I don't care if Ron Jeremy throttle shuttled him daily all while stuffing cocaine up his nose throughout his entire youth.
You still don't punch a 101 year old woman.
The only thing he needs help with is bleeding.
You don't care if a child was repeatedly raped and abused by a fat porn star, but you care about an old woman getting punched? That seems odd.
Was there audio for the tape? Maybe she was taunting him...
"Hey you! Guy much larger than me! Yeah you! I'm talking to you ya pussy!"
"Hey you! Guy much larger than me! Yeah you! I'm talking to you ya pussy!"
that asshole needs two .45 slugs to the head..........
So if someone grows up being mentally and physically abused, you give them no sympathy?
Oh good God, the dude is clearly an adult man punching a 100 year old woman.
Another sign of the pussification of society.
Oh, he must a victim. Poor guy had a crappy childhood, so he is allowed to smoke rocks and punch great grandmas.
Let's send him to rehab, and give him a teddy bear and chocolate so he can relive his childhood. It worked so well for Michael Jackson.
I feel sorry for anyone who looks like that guy.
I'm not talking about this case specifically, but specifically talking about situations where a person grows up abused and is fvcked in the head.
Clearly he's not an "adult man".
It's called compassion. Sure they guy should be jailed for his horrible crime, but what happens when he gets out?
The "pussification" is when we care about our fellow humans?! It's a hell of a lot more difficult to try to help someone improve their situation than to look away or to beat someone down because they know of no other way to behave.
The "pussification" is when we care about our fellow humans?! It's a hell of a lot more difficult to try to help someone improve their situation than to look away or to beat someone down because they know of no other way to behave.
The problem here is that beating up a 101 year old woman is so far outside the realms of decency that people can't feel sorry for this guy.
Hell, not only did he beat on an 101 year old, he followed up by beating up an 85 year old woman. Why didn't he go after a 40 year old guy on the street? There's something more here than just "he was abused". He has no decency or compassion himself. If he's so devoid of compassion himself that he hits a great grandma 3 times in the face, why should we show any to him?
Hell, not only did he beat on an 101 year old, he followed up by beating up an 85 year old woman. Why didn't he go after a 40 year old guy on the street? There's something more here than just "he was abused". He has no decency or compassion himself. If he's so devoid of compassion himself that he hits a great grandma 3 times in the face, why should we show any to him?
No, the "pussification" is when people all of a sudden aren't responsible for their own actions because they lived through poor circumstances as a child. There are a lot of studies that indicate most people who suffer through abuse of varying types actually end up fine as adults with no problems that actually prevent them from being a contributing member of society or knowing right from wrong.
So what's this guy's excuse? Yeah, you're probably right. He's probably screwed up in the head from his circumstances rather than just pathologically insane, but that doesn't make it okay. It doesn't make me cry for him. Perhaps he can be rehabilitated... but only after he is punished for his crimes, and he gets no leniency on his punishment just because he's a headcase.
Sorry, I'd rather be compassionate towards people who are homeless or have no opportunity to better themselves but are otherwise decent human beings than devote time to worrying about whether this guy can get enough therapy to know why punching old ladies is wrong.
So what's this guy's excuse? Yeah, you're probably right. He's probably screwed up in the head from his circumstances rather than just pathologically insane, but that doesn't make it okay. It doesn't make me cry for him. Perhaps he can be rehabilitated... but only after he is punished for his crimes, and he gets no leniency on his punishment just because he's a headcase.
Sorry, I'd rather be compassionate towards people who are homeless or have no opportunity to better themselves but are otherwise decent human beings than devote time to worrying about whether this guy can get enough therapy to know why punching old ladies is wrong.
A hard life does not justify this conduct, even it helps explain it. I see no contradiction in having zero tolerance for this while at the same time recognizing the dude may have had some problems.
It rob her was bad enough, but to punch ANY woman in the face is cause for a beatdown. To punch a 101 year old woman is cause for a beatdown for life.
No, the pussification is when people are no longer held responsible for their actions, and every little thing is an excuse.
"Think you're tough? You're a fairy on a pink bike, that's what you are! Ohh yeah, like you could smash my face in..."