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Discussion in 'BMX & Dirt Jumping' started by Li'l Dave, Nov 1, 2005.

  1. Li'l Dave

    Li'l Dave Monkey

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    So I want to get a new jump bike, and the bikes that I am looking at are the new Specialized p2 and the Black Mrkt MOB. I can get the Specialized through my shop, and I would have to pay more for the MOB. I would like gears, but they are not necessary, I would rather have a better frame. I really just want to bike for jumping, any ideas?
     
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    Changleen Paranoid Member

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    Out of those two? The Blackmarket, hands down. However, there are a million and one DJ specific bikes out there these days. Look around this forum for a start and check out www.unrealcycles.com.
     
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    I'm getting a sinister DNA. despite being such a huge company specialized's new P. frame is some hawt shiat. 4.75lbs with same chanstay lenght as the BM Mob (5.5lbs). If you wanna look cool or just support the little guy then the Mob is the right bike, but if you just want the better frame, the P. is soo choice, but not by much. Bear in mind that I am only talking about the 06 bikes. I'd take a Mob over a 05- P. any day.
     
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    Changleen Paranoid Member

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    06 P3 is pretty damn nice, but the head angle is still boringly slow, and they arn't doing a 24" specific version.
     
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  5. mobius

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    P3 isn't necessarily the nicer frame. the blackmrket is handmade by S&M and 4130
     
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    scurban Turbo Monkey

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    with out a doubt go with the MOB
     
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    rpk1988 90210

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    Well I think its cool that you have two choices within the P.2 now, an aluminum one and a chromo.
     
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  8. RobsterCrw

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    I used to diss on the quality of specialized because they were mass produced. Not anymore. I'd probably go with the MOB still, but the new frames from specialized are something else.
     
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    mobius Turbo Monkey

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    Robster i wasn't i used to ride a specialized and now ride a giant, a cannondale, and a santa cruz. But the mob is definetly gonna be a nicer frame just looka t S&Ms bmxs.
     
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    the mob is bomb proof. great frame.
     
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    I was originally gonna get a Mob. One of the guys who had an 05 said that they were having problems with the disc brake mounts breaking off and the frame had tire clearance issues. Even still its one of the best frames out there and supposedly they have fixed the problems with the 05 in the new 06. Whether you get the P. or the Black Market, in all likely hood you will never regret your choice. I only decided on the Sinister DNA because it comes available in the color I want.
     
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    They have added a booster in between the seatstays and chainstays :thumb:

     
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    mobius Turbo Monkey

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    If money is an issue i think blackmarket is coming out with a more affordable MOB but not sure when it will be available.
     
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    ive heard nothing but good things about thre mob, as to the P it looks sweet, like and enduro-esque style hardtail. Id still take the mob but the P3 comes standard pretty loaded...
     
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    What I might do is buy the P2 and then a MOB frame and switch all the parts over if possible. Does anyone know if the MOB can take gears?
     
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    Nice MOB. I'm hoping to eventually get one eventually but my chase is still kickin good.
     
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    Does this frame even stack up at all? :(
     
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    Hah thats funny. I've seen one in real life it looked like crap interms of build quality.
     
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    Changleen Paranoid Member

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    Diamondback are gay in the butt. No offence to anyone who owns one. You know you'll all be buying a better bike when you can afford it.
     
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    Changleen Paranoid Member

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    That's sick. Your component choice is very similar to mine. Scarily similar, actually. You just need some 24"s...
     
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    not mine. just one i happen to see on unrealcycles that had gears
     
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    Ah. Well, Whose ever it is has good taste.
     
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    I actually saw some guy ride up to our trails with a bike like that. oddly he didn't really ride, so I didn't see the bike in action. How he knew how to get to our trails I'll never know. It was a really nice bike tough, especially for the price. I'd take one over a p-bike any day. Diamond bike has been know to be pretty lame in the past... but I swear this bike looked damn good to me for the value.
     
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    It's available w/ vertical drop outs or you could use an axle mounted derailer hanger on a frame w/ horizontal dropouts
     
  26. Spunger

    Spunger Git yer dumb questions here

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    I just picked up a P1 (very similar to a P2, just a hair shorter chainstay's) and I am going to build it up, hopefully cheap, and go from there. The Black Market bikes look pretty sick but I don't think you could find one for the price of a new P2 (your shop cost) or online for that matter.

    Both make great bikes, I'd have no issues running either one. Just whatever apeals to you more (like anything bicycle related)
     
  27. Li'l Dave

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    Okay, I'm settled on the Black Market, but I'm not sure if I want to run a singlespeed, and I'm not sure what size to get. I don't want to use the bike for anything besides jumping, but I just dont know if singlespeed is the way to go. Also, the two sizes that are made are very similar, I am about 5'9", which one is good for me? Thanks.
     
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    run it single speed, its a much better option for dj's. I've cased jumps, and had it throw my derailer out of wack on a # of occasions. There is noting worse then sprinting at a jump, and having your derailer "POP" on you.
    I've had the best luck running either 33/15 and 36/16 gear ratio's on a 26" single speed jump bike. If you're 5'9" I would suggest the regular size frame ESPECIALLY if you are using it for jumping.

    The MOB is a wise choice, be sure to post lot's of pictures once it's built!
     
  29. The Kadvang

    The Kadvang I rule

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    The p1 and the p2 are the exact same frame.
     
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    Singlespeed fo sho. How many times do you find yourself shifting while dirtjumping? I used to run gears but found that the only time I used them was during an accidental shift/derailleur flop.

    The small mob frames are really small, like hitting your front wheel on your pedals small. I personally wounldn't get it. I've seen 3 of them owned by friends and they are really nice rides.
     
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    he prob has the cromoly version...
     
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    i'm wondering if they fixed the issue only being able to run a very narrow rear tire?
     
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    duh, never mind. turns out the 06's have more clearence.
     
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    i've bent two p2 frames and just bought a MOB and love it. so solid, so stiff. go for it.