so does anyone have usefull info? all the news info seems to be a bit cloak and dagger....
pac nw, may be timely info! Yer all gonna die!
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Typical O2 panelJm_ said:
ya ever see the military aviation horror film in which the F-4 pilot used vasaline for his chapped lips and had to hit 100% during an EP and burned the crap out of his face?
frickin grizzly
yes, dont make any travel plans for the 2nd of november.SebringMGB said:
oh wait, you were serious right?
i havent really heard anyone compare the statistics they are getting now, with the early stages of the 1980 eruption. i looked it up, but i dont really understand the technical explinations. But ai did read that they had lots of small (1.0 to 2.0) quakes long before it blew.
its not like its predictable, just indicators of some activity where energy is being, or needs to be released. It could happen in one big fart, or a couple of little ones over time.SebringMGB said:
yeah, but due to how widely used O2 is, there has to be some other factor here, maybe high altitude pressure? Maybe O2 reacting with something?Damn True said:
I can't just say the "burning" thing is wrong, and I can't just say that I'm 100% right, but there has to be some other factor that we are not fully aware of here.
That's what I was basing everything on.. Crap, that movie was fiction?Damn True said:
Since you guys want to keep this alive, I'll apologize for flying off the hook. I've been having trouble walking lately and have had to hike over a lot of broken granite the last few days for work. Pain does wonderful things for patience. Like eliminate it. Regardless, sorry bout that.
As far as the pressure thing goes, like I said before, when straight oxygen is used for pilots, space and otherwise it's ususally with the person in an evironment that is less than 1 atmosphere (760 mm Hg and all that). Divers have the same issue with submersibles. They use helium, to dilute the oxygen but without the dangers of the bends and the weight of nitrogen. What they end up with however is nowhere near the same percentage of oxygen that is in air.
Even then, they're not supposed to get thier bodies too far over about 1.5 atmosphere if for some reason they do use higher concentrations of O2. That's pretty shallow. But greater pressures are going to increase the absorbtion, and hence the damage of too much O2
That chapstik ignition would be cool to try out. I've only seen grease catch on fire.
But I've seen guys blow dust off of themselves with the oxygen line from an acetylene torch, treating it like it was just compressed air. They didn't blow up or anything that spectacular, but I was always sure to take a few steps back based on the grease experiment. Moist lung tissue on the other hand..............eeek.
ya, and thats a common story told in high school chemistry class and wherever, where students working with pure oxygen had burned themselves quite severely.kidwoo said:
we were just talking about this in geology, my teacher works for the government and is being flown over to helens in a few days to study it. It should be pretty interesting
UPDATE: from the guy i quoted int he original post...
" Just spoke with our chair, he's heading out to Washington this weekend.
New data is a bit troubling. We are seeing microquakes only a few hundred meters underneath the lava dome. At first we were unsure whether it was simply rainwater flowing into the mountain or magma. New evidence points to a magmatic flow. A series of tremors are now being seen farther away from the mountain, around ~10 km away. This leads to the idea that magma is flowing from "tanks" underneath the crust towards the volcano itself.
However, it is clear that without seeing magmatic gas eminating from the crater, it is not likely to see a large event in the near future. This could be the mountain "hiccuping", or it could be a precursor to a volcanic event on the level of the 1980 eruption."
" Just spoke with our chair, he's heading out to Washington this weekend.
New data is a bit troubling. We are seeing microquakes only a few hundred meters underneath the lava dome. At first we were unsure whether it was simply rainwater flowing into the mountain or magma. New evidence points to a magmatic flow. A series of tremors are now being seen farther away from the mountain, around ~10 km away. This leads to the idea that magma is flowing from "tanks" underneath the crust towards the volcano itself.
However, it is clear that without seeing magmatic gas eminating from the crater, it is not likely to see a large event in the near future. This could be the mountain "hiccuping", or it could be a precursor to a volcanic event on the level of the 1980 eruption."
I can hear Dr.Evil saying..."Magma!"....and using qoute fingers...
Whats this have to do with DH?? If anything shouldnt this have been posted in the PACNW forum?
well you cant DH during the apocalypse!oly said:
TWISTED said:
Worry.
They put up a 12 mile radius evacuation order this morning.
Were you living in Portland in 1980?
If not, talk to someone that was. If that thing blows again it is going to seriously jack your $hit up. Go drive up through Vancouver to Longview WA. Those miles and miles of 50' high hills west of I-5 are all man made piles of ash swept from the streets of Portland Vancouver and Longview.
Or it could be that a giant emerald green goat with chinese red testicles is going to fly up out of crater and strike down its wrath on anyone who stills participates in the electric slide.Transcend said:
I think its hilarious that they can study it all they want, and still don't have a clue what its gonna do.
bring it!! lets show florida whats up 
Jeremy R said:
That gets the wtf analogy of the day. NICE
Last night the local news was predicting where the ash would go if it blew in the next couple days. With the wind the way it is and the way it's predicted to go the ash could go straight south or southwest into Portland.Damn True said:
This whole thing reminds me of that cheesy movie Dante's Peak
Ya'll should just quit your jobs and move away. Just ask the Floridians what happens when you stay.
shameless post from someone that wants to relocate to the area
shameless post from someone that wants to relocate to the area
If you werent born here youll go crazy after the 5th or 6th month of rain.... for your own sake... STAY AWAY!!!!!Crash_Tested said:
Yeah, I was 10 in 1980. I had a clear view of the whole thing from my house on Sauvie Island. It got dark and ash fell, afterwards I had to clear it off the roof and do some shoveling. Nothing really to worry about unless you have a shiny car or like to wear white clothes.Damn True said:
If it happens, it happens, but I can't see it being nearly as big as 1980.
I'll be at Interbike in Vegas anyway.
St helens is starting to blow! See CNN live...
The lava dome is moving as much as 3", 3/4 quakes a minute (largest 3.3). HUGE steam/dust cloud billowing
The lava dome is moving as much as 3", 3/4 quakes a minute (largest 3.3). HUGE steam/dust cloud billowing
Cam is down for me. :mumble:Damn True said:
watching it live on CNN
Hmm, I can't get it either.Transcend said:
Bad sign.
It is pretty cool on CNN. HUGE steam cloud, up to a mile high. Smallish explosions with rocks clearing the rim, up to possibly 5 miles. May cause floods in the next few hours due to rapid melting of the glacier in the bowl.
Worked for just a split second...
Good stuff, they are probably getting slammed. The close up shots on CNN are very cool.
I hate news websites that require you to be a member to see anything!
Seems to be that it has stopped for the moment. They expect more in the next few minutes/hours.
The cloud will be coming down with 5 miles it says.
The cloud will be coming down with 5 miles it says.
The cam is working now.
it's rich the girl on cnn called it a "KILLER VOLCANO" duhn duhn duuuuhhhn
pretty cool to watch. thanks for the cnn tip fraser
true, i emailed you w/ the goods fyi.
pretty cool to watch. thanks for the cnn tip fraser
true, i emailed you w/ the goods fyi.
Well, it did kill 57 people when it blew in 1980. What is the statute of limitations on Volcanic killings?©2001 said:
i thought it was a 23 year statute, that's probably why the old killer is getting antsy.
Volcano's are like ninjas.©2001 said:
They feel a need to kill.
i always thought i was like a ninja, but now that you mention it, i'm more like a volcano...Damn True said: