You are correct. Joe will only make embarrassing statements about needing an Indian accent when going into a 7-11 or a Dunkin Donuts.
Palin has no business being a VP candidate
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Yeah, he's a dumbass on that one. Everybody with a brain knows that Pakistanis have all the Dunkin' franchises!You are correct. Joe will only make embarrassing statements about needing an Indian accent when going into a 7-11 or a Dunkin Donuts.
I'm eagerly anticipating Palin's speech tonight. It'll show just how well she can read a teleprompter...
Listening to her talk is like chewing tin foil.
McCain is no better. Like listening to Corky talk about foreign policy.
you'd think she could keep the reigns on her own kids <-kids never make mistakes do they?
parents have complete and total control over everything they do...
do you have kids?
are they perfect?
or if you don't will they be perfect and follow EVERY thing you teach (or try) to teach them?
O'Reilly seems to think so. Or at least when it involves celebrities kids who make mistakes instead of an AK governor's kids who make mistakes...
i shouuld point out that i'm not defending pallin.
i just think its interesting that his point of criticism is to blame her for not controlling her daughter.
yeah, 17 yo's don't think about/or have 'the sEx'...
i just think its interesting that his point of criticism is to blame her for not controlling her daughter.
yeah, 17 yo's don't think about/or have 'the sEx'...
Rewind the tape. Now read for comprehension.
Ohio was making the point that in Palin's household, the chosen birth control didn't work.
Extrapolate that out to a nation. Ruh-roh Raggy...
so you see no logical fallacy in the assertion the veep will run her office with the same freedom she can run her household?
comprehension just fine.
that bag full of sledgehammers was pretty subtle but thanks for extrapolatin' for me
vpotus soap boxes have all worked so well in the past
nancy and just say no
hillary and health care...
laura...hmm well don't know and don't care what her soap box is.
guess maybe you couldn't readin' comprehend my reply, its a pretty simple one here, parents don't always have full control of their kids so you're going to have to come up with a better criticism than that (i'm sure she has plenty)
that bag full of sledgehammers was pretty subtle but thanks for extrapolatin' for me
vpotus soap boxes have all worked so well in the past
nancy and just say no
hillary and health care...
laura...hmm well don't know and don't care what her soap box is.
guess maybe you couldn't readin' comprehend my reply, its a pretty simple one here, parents don't always have full control of their kids so you're going to have to come up with a better criticism than that (i'm sure she has plenty)
I think that you need an explanation of the difference between Vice President and First Lady...
touche'
what can i say, hillary has blurred the lines for me.
phone in one hand, keyboard in the other
what can i say, hillary has blurred the lines for me.
phone in one hand, keyboard in the other
Soap boxes, logical fallacy....yeesh...
What I'm saying is, there's always the need to plan for the most improbable event.
Cooler heads should prevail. Failing that, we could have a push for abstinence-only education.
Obama could go off the deep end and attack Iran, sure. Chances are better that McCain kicks the bucket and we get executive signings that are even more obscure than Bush's...
It's all a roll of the dice, but I like using loaded ones that don't blow up in my face.
What I'm saying is, there's always the need to plan for the most improbable event.
Cooler heads should prevail. Failing that, we could have a push for abstinence-only education.
Obama could go off the deep end and attack Iran, sure. Chances are better that McCain kicks the bucket and we get executive signings that are even more obscure than Bush's...
It's all a roll of the dice, but I like using loaded ones that don't blow up in my face.
Abstinence only will never work. ****ing is fun, and once a kid gets the smell in their nostrils, its all over but the shouting. Tell them the facts, both birds and bees and hard cold facts about baby makin' and reality.
Want a solution? Teach your kid "right" from "wrong", give them the information and the freedom to make choices, and let them go. If they fall on their ass, pick them up, dust em off and let them go again.
Repeat as neccesary.
Want a solution? Teach your kid "right" from "wrong", give them the information and the freedom to make choices, and let them go. If they fall on their ass, pick them up, dust em off and let them go again.
Repeat as neccesary.
quoting between breaths, because I can't stop laughing at all the layers of humor in you confusing Palin for first lady.
edit: ru486 beat me to it
I agree. Given that truth, who can conscienably promote abstinence-only education?
A zealot or an idiot, your pick.
Not the argument I'm making.
Point I'm making is that (from the limited info available online) she promotes abstinence-only education, and is opposed to public education or advocacy for other forms of birth control (I understand the reasons people believe in this approach; the lack of efficacy overrides the moral purity of it in my mind, but that's a side point).
I do not understand how she can believe that this policy will work for the greater public, when it cannot even work in her own household. You cannot think I equated the two, when my argument was, specifically, that she will have less control or influence over the behavior of any other teen in the country than she does her own daughter.
Boy, politics is fun. This thread has swerved back and for into reasons for Gov. Palin's disqualifications for the VEEP spot. Mainly because she has a daughter that has problems keeping her panties on. If one's offspring is enough to remove you from consideration, I guess Al Gore should have never been allowed in the VP slot because of his druggie son, right? Too much ancient history?
How about Joe Biden's son and brother. Both are in a bit of hot water WRT investment fraud. Does the phrase "the apple does not fall far from the tree" come to mind?
How about Joe Biden's son and brother. Both are in a bit of hot water WRT investment fraud. Does the phrase "the apple does not fall far from the tree" come to mind?
i think a better - but unfortunately for her distractors a non-existent - argument would be trying to implement failed policies as governor into the office of veep
that is, you're simply stating that b/c her track record to prevent private insemination in her roost is < 100% that it shouldn't be considered for public dissemination abroad
this is an impossibly high standard that under cursory examination would foil most any candidate. counter-intuitively, obama's biggest strength is more & more becoming his lack of experience
Hey he has experience. He is now touting his leadership within..... tada... the BO for Prez. campaign organization.
I'm so glad the McCain camp isn't using Palin's daughter and soon-to-be-husband for any type of grandstanding or photo-op.
oh wait.
spoke too soon...
oh wait.
spoke too soon...
My father has an opinion about governors: they don't do anything.Hey he has experience. He is now touting his leadership within..... tada... the BO for Prez. campaign organization.
Over the years, I've come to believe that. On rare occasions a governor's ability does matter, like Louisiana's Blanco, but most of the time his decisions are based on budgets determined by state assemblies.
It is worthwhile to discuss leadership qualities, I just don't want to spend much time analyzing a sound bite the RNC strategists thought up, that a mayor of a 5,000 pop. town and a governor of a state with less than 700k is eminently qualified to lead a country.
I will discuss Obama's qualifications, the list of senators who have become President:
Monroe, John Quincy Adams, Jackson, Van Buren, William Harrison, Tyler, Pierce, Buchanan. Andrew Johnson, Benjamin Harrison, Harding, Truman, Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson and Nixon.
It is a mixed bag there. Harding and Nixon were some of the worst, Kennedy and Truman the best.
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"You two young idiots had better keep your pants on, you have caused enough trouble already..."I'm so glad the McCain camp isn't using Palin's daughter and soon-to-be-husband for any type of grandstanding or photo-op.
oh wait.
spoke too soon...
"If you don't smile and pretend that you're happy to be married and a father at 18yo, I'll have the Secret Service take care of you and they'll never find the body..."
that's just disgusting.I'm so glad the McCain camp isn't using Palin's daughter and soon-to-be-husband for any type of grandstanding or photo-op.
oh wait.
spoke too soon...
look at the way they're cheesing it up for the camera.
and this new policy mccain has of strong-arming the press into covering his every move just before a close election is beyond the pale.
There are already, and will be many more, other arguments against her qualifications for and capabilities as VP. We picked the funnest one today. I'm sure by November we'll cover the more relevant ones.
Can't help you there. We are all allowed to be incorrect or change your "feelings" on this one.
..and how she total blew her opportunity to help her state.
on budgets determined by state assemblies.
Again, desperation when my #2 is compared to your #1.
And how long was Barry in the Senate? And how many "present" votes did he have in the Ill. State House?
Getting his head blown off being his crowning achievement.
Great video-taped speech by our "Patriot" Sarah Palin to the Alaskan Independence Party convention in March, 2008. You know, the group that her husband belonged to, and the one that wants to secede from the Union? It would be nice if she talked about upholding the country's constitution instead of the state's constitution...
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It is pretty pathetic that so much attention has gone to this, but on the other hand, when you pick some random person from Alaska who no one knows a damn thing about to be VP, any information that comes forward is going to be endlessly dissected in this climate. There's also the fact that our culture is constantly preoccupied with the sexual exploits of others, whether it be Britney Spears, Congressman Hastert, John Edwards, A Rod and Madonna... you get my point.
So basically Palin is just a distraction to take some attention and chic away from Obama, and there's nothing special about her "party line" platform. So why not point out the inconsistencies in her personal life against the values she preaches? There's really nothing else to go on.
Distraction
Chic? More like hallow.
Again, people confuse Hypocrisy with Perfection.
I thought the Present Vote issue, which like an abstain, was interesting: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/20/us/politics/20obama.html. He chose that option 130 times on 4000+ votes.
There were a few cases where it was a compromise. Mostly it was going along with other democrats.
Uh, Cuban Missile Crisis? "Ich bin ein Berliner"? Civil Rights Act of 1964?
And you can thank Republicans in the Senate (over the objections of the Dems).
The Strong South?
Did you hear the Southern Democrats of the 50's & 60's is now Republican? Jesse Helms ring a bell?
I don't have any favorites here, but to suggest that this woman was picked for any other reason than that she is a woman, and somebody "different" is stupid. There are probably hundreds of people more qualified than this woman, so why else would she be brought on? It's an election strategy... not a choice made in the best interests of the nation. And why defend that when you don't know the woman any better than anyone else does?Distraction
I didn't call her a hypocrite... but it's hard not to notice/laugh at the irony of the situation.
And your point is? FYI, Al Gore Sr. just one of many Dems who opposed it. That from the party that brings your Robert Sheets Byrd.
All of the best intentions are worthless if you cannot get elected. If you are concerned about "best interests" of the nation, you better be very concerned about the Empty-Suit of Barry O.
A little Gooooogling does wonders ....