Shimano's chain tool is my go-to.
I have a $90 Shimano chain tool (at cost) from sometime in the '00s (teak handles...thing is titties) that I simply cannot find a replacement pin for.
Heartbreaking.
Heartbreaking.
Yeah fuck that. A simple cease and desist accomplishes that. And park doesn't make tools like that. Goodbye park. Hello everyone else who makes better shit anyway.
There is no equivalent park tool. And that dude pointing out the perceived value of his tools going down if someone confused them with park is fuckin hilarious. My hero. Will buy.
It's like Park doesn't think their shit don't stink. It does. It's not perfect as they'd like to believe it is. Like kidwoo posted with the guy saying if the color blue does anything for their customers, the perceived value is actually worse because of the Park brand.
Some unsolicited feedback on "big blue". Your hex wrench set. Horrible. Hopefully the actual tools hold up. But the execution of the set, is questionable.
So here we are comparing a 10 year old, worn out set of Pedro's set, to a brand new Park set.
1) The Park way of holding the wrenches are not in numerical order. WTF? Notice I use the Pedros canvas bag for the new Park wrenches. And keep the old Pedros set in the Park holder base. (can't get myself to throw them away yet)
2) Park only labels their wrenches on one side, and it's molded into the handle. Making it hard to know what wrench you have. The Pedros wrenches are clearly marked in contrasting color (white), and on both sides.
3) I do enjoy the slot they give for a 3 way wrench in Park's base. That's nice. But no T25 torx in your set. Notice the Birzman in place of the worn out Pedros. I'd say Birzman is doing things right. Park should take notice. Pedros, I love you to bro.
Some unsolicited feedback on "big blue". Your hex wrench set. Horrible. Hopefully the actual tools hold up. But the execution of the set, is questionable.
So here we are comparing a 10 year old, worn out set of Pedro's set, to a brand new Park set.
1) The Park way of holding the wrenches are not in numerical order. WTF? Notice I use the Pedros canvas bag for the new Park wrenches. And keep the old Pedros set in the Park holder base. (can't get myself to throw them away yet)
2) Park only labels their wrenches on one side, and it's molded into the handle. Making it hard to know what wrench you have. The Pedros wrenches are clearly marked in contrasting color (white), and on both sides.
3) I do enjoy the slot they give for a 3 way wrench in Park's base. That's nice. But no T25 torx in your set. Notice the Birzman in place of the worn out Pedros. I'd say Birzman is doing things right. Park should take notice. Pedros, I love you to bro.
Speaking of shop tools, does anyone need a Birzman nipple driver?
I bought one by accident a few weeks ago.
$13.00 shipped?
Brand new in the plastic.
I bought one by accident a few weeks ago.
$13.00 shipped?
Brand new in the plastic.
Speaking of tools, we had an electrician wire up my shed recently. He left a pair of cheap side cutters, and my sweet Snap-on duckbill pliers are now missing.
Boo-hoo. Someone sues because their trademark is being infringed upon. "Screw them, they suck! I'm rooting for the tiny, tiny, tiny, little company who makes 3 tools!". Whatever.
If they're not "ergonomic" for your hands, contact Ergon and tell them. If you really need your wrenches marked to tell the difference between a 4, 5, 6 and 8mm (seriously?) then mark them with a colored marker. Feel free to use blue!
Go buy your nikes
Lol
If they're not "ergonomic" for your hands, contact Ergon and tell them. If you really need your wrenches marked to tell the difference between a 4, 5, 6 and 8mm (seriously?) then mark them with a colored marker. Feel free to use blue!
Go buy your nikes
Lol
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Nice. Have you submitted said photo to GMBN Tech for Doddy to look at?
Yeah, I don't think something as simple as a color is really unique intillectual property. Design aspects like the shape and function, sure, but just the color? If they were making blue plastic/rubber handles that fit over the "grip" area of the tool, like on the pedal wrench, then yeah, they are imitating the form. Do you have to license the color red because Ferrari makes red cars? Sure, some brands use color to HELP associate their identity, but IMO that's not enough to form the basis for unique intellectual property. It could be used as evidence that someone is trying to obviously imitate your intellectual property, but by itself such as an annodized bearing tool that Park doesn't make, then that's just some lizard bullshit. Everyone knows that annodization shades vary by batch too, so just offering in blue is not enough to claim they are infringing. Maybe Park needs to make some better shit, I know that's true in some areas.
What if you are colorblind? You'll never even know you were using the wrong tools
Worst part is - what if you hit your toe on a park tool and it turns blue. Do they now own your toe? Still I agree it's the form. They should copyright a pattern like blue handle over black something with a specific pantone shade.
In the article it sounds like Park tried that, but the 5 year old baby wants to kick and scream to get his way.
Isnt that the point? Park is arguing 310 turquoise is included in their blue trademark. Park thinks they can trademark all blue spectra from 400nm to 490nm. Utter bullshit.
Yes, Nice! Beta, USAG and Silca all have similar designs, do they have a detent so the top piece stays in the centre when you are spinning them?
I bought some Bondhus T handles and they are okay but I'm thinking of getting something like these so I can do non bike stuff up to decent torque levels.
Depends, if they got Tony Ellsworth running things they just might pull it off...
They have a detent on each side of the t handle which to me is more useful than in the center. Ha, I look for excuses to use these.
They should sue birzman and lezene for some of their green anodized stuff too. Green contains blue.
In Parks defence (sigh) it does sound like they sent the letter saying "oi we patented blue bike tools, can you plz change to something else" and got told to eff off. If they don't purse it now, they're opening the door to Chinese Pork Tools releasing their range of turquoise blue bike tools.
Personally I don't mind their cable cutters and a few other things, and they don't seem to make much worthless junk. They're pretty expensive though for what they are, but most bike tools are. I've been putting off buying a new workstand head until Pork Tools releases one for $43
Personally I don't mind their cable cutters and a few other things, and they don't seem to make much worthless junk. They're pretty expensive though for what they are, but most bike tools are. I've been putting off buying a new workstand head until Pork Tools releases one for $43
Except blue is also the color for metric-standard tools, so going into any hardware store you are usually able to pick up T-handle hex wrenches and allen wrench sets in blue. I have a few of these myself.
I curate my raw gluten free tools from artisinal virgin vegan Venezuelan mustashioed craftsmen who have swore a vow of silence.
They are currently being sued for using the trademark Crafstmen, when questioned on the matter they refused comment.
They are currently being sued for using the trademark Crafstmen, when questioned on the matter they refused comment.
BOOOOOO
They are not opening anything. I doubt the producer will post an expose about Park Tool calling all Chinease companies to have some fun time and screw park tool.
How couldn't it be? you've got not one, but TWO colors to choose from when going discontinued!!!
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If Park made some yellow tools (like Pedro's), would Pedro's be cool with that? Would you be OK with that?
... Or would you all go crying that Park is trying to look like Pedro's?
Park has been Blue for at least 2 decades. They trademarked it. The senior of the school politely asked the 5 year old boy to stop using it and he didn't. Park told the teacher and the teacher told the kindergarten student to stop. But he didn't. The senior then told the principal and now the 5 year old baby is kicking and screaming and spreading rumors to everyone about the senior. The senior is mature enough to just avoid the 5 year old baby and let him cry, cry, cry cause, that alone, makes him look like a jack ass.
... Or would you all go crying that Park is trying to look like Pedro's?
Park has been Blue for at least 2 decades. They trademarked it. The senior of the school politely asked the 5 year old boy to stop using it and he didn't. Park told the teacher and the teacher told the kindergarten student to stop. But he didn't. The senior then told the principal and now the 5 year old baby is kicking and screaming and spreading rumors to everyone about the senior. The senior is mature enough to just avoid the 5 year old baby and let him cry, cry, cry cause, that alone, makes him look like a jack ass.
Like I said, T-Mobile owns purple and all shades and names of it. It only works so other Tele-com companies can't use it.
I imagine this is the same situation in that the trademark only works for bike tools.
I imagine this is the same situation in that the trademark only works for bike tools.
AGAIN... PICK A DIFFERENT FUCKING COLOR!
Ps. You didn't answer my question about it being alright if Park used Pedro's color. Good reply though...
