Meanwhile, I ride for free, I ride to the trailhead, and I ride stuff as good as Whistler's alpine trails. Don't have to drive anywhere to get it either.
So I'm really bummed for y'all. Seriously. It's breakin' my heart!
I'm going to sun peaks and silverstar...yeah!Thursday will be even busier than Friday me thinks! Got up here about an hour ago, as soon as you were clear of the city the roads were great..unless you were heading to the sunshine coast on the ferry. Good luck, coastal crew guys stuck in the BB van!
How did my analogy go so far over your head? I never said that they should sell the lift passes/merchandise for exactly what their cost is.By your analogy, you should resell merchandise at exactly what it cost you, or not charge any mark-up at all.
And that just doesn't make sense.
Silver Star, Panorama, Sun Peaks, and Fernie here I come.Think their prices are too rich for you? Then stop going. I dare ya.
You are indeed saying you are owed free parking.Nobody is saying anyone owes them anything. One would assume that if you pay $50+ a day to ride perhaps you could park the fakkin vehicle you drove there in as part of that $50. Like Kenan says, you can ride here after you buy a ticket and oh yeah you have to pay to park your car here.
Didn't go over my head at all. I understood you perfectly. You believe you are owed free parking. You believe the lift pass covers free parking. You believe you know how the lift pass is priced.How did my analogy go so far over your head? I never said that they should sell the lift passes/merchandise for exactly what their cost is.
Sadly, the world isn't living in drkenan's Utopia. Whistler will charge what they can, and people will pay it. Why? Because Whistler's a "scene," and people love to be known as scenesters.My point was that I could charge normal prices at my (fictitious) store but charge customers to park and make a killing. But why would I do such a ridiculous thing?
Paying to park is the definition of nickle-and-diming your customers. Again, it's not the cost but the fact that you're already spending money on a lift pass, food, merchandise, bike parts to support their resort/municipality.
I know where my reasoning goes, and it doesn't go where you suggest. But thanks, very kindly, for your inglorious attempt at prediction.By your reasoning, they should also charge every time you enter the bike park as a separate fee from the lift.
Actually, given that most of the people at Whistler are far too lazy to pedal up and therefore are buying lift passes and expecting free parking -- what this whole thread is about, numbnuts! -- they are indeed paying to ride the trails.Nobody pays to ride Whistler's trails.
You pay to ride the lift. The HIGH speed quad lift. Something that is very, very rare.
That's still available? Gotta go find it.Congrats slowitdown. Your silly arrogant babbling has forced me to use the ignore list for the 1st time in 8 years.....
Amen...thanks.Congrats slowitdown. Your silly arrogant babbling has forced me to use the ignore list for the 1st time in 8 years.....
next up: charges for leakin'The municpailty is trying to recoup some amberlamps costs.
well really, you don't, because mountain operations have nothing to do with the parking lot in question....as much as slow it down runs his mouth off, which he does....Indeed slow it down, you are right on all fronts of this discussion and your logic is flawless. I am sorry I attempted to express my opinion as it is invalid and porrly thought out. I am glad to know that you have such an overwhelming knowledge of Whistler's financial structure and how they channel their income.
You Win!
especially when you don't have a drivers license, let alone a carThere's hero dirt up here right now. Parking is the last thing on anyone's mind.
you've seen reputable stats supporting this? hard to believe given the huge ski volume compared to bikes, and higher winter rates across the board.A ) Why the hell is it more in the summer when for at least 4 years now, summer has caught up with the winter season and is just as , if not even MORE profitable?
Heard it before and also read that numerous times in different publications...Skiing may be huge but if you combine, tourism , golf and biking all together , it adds up real quick.you've seen reputable stats supporting this? hard to believe given the huge ski volume compared to bikes, and higher winter rates across the board.
still, factor in winter snow removal costs, and the higher summer rate does seem questionable.
100% right about busy days. Imagine how many people are going to be forced to pay to park during the 10 days of crankworx alone when those lots are overflowing. It's going to be messy.A lot of people on here seem to think people are just lazy to pedal...but things is, on busy day both 4 AND 5 will be full and we'll be force to pay for parking.
Personally my biggest concerns on the topic are A ) Why the hell is it more in the summer when for at least 4 years now, summer has caught up with the winter season and is just as , if not even MORE profitable? and B) I thought the parking lots were on crowd land like the park and the resort had no rights to enforce their BS?
It's electronic parking slips with pay kiosks, the same as most big cities.Has anyone paid to park yet, what are they using to verify you paid? A slip of paper, is it color coded for different days or does the attendant(stoned aussie) just write a date on a piece of paper or something? Pics of said piece of paper/parking pass?
I've already said this once before in this thread but it's not Whistler Blackcomb who are implementing or benefiting financially from the pay-parking. It's the Resort Municipality of Whistler. I have an issue of Pique here with a big 4 page spread on the pay parking from the RMOW stating that they expect the new pay parking lots to increase total pay parking revenue for the municipality to $2 million annually of which $500,000/pa minimum is to be reinvested into public transit improvements. The rest is all profit.Personally my biggest concerns on the topic are A ) Why the hell is it more in the summer when for at least 4 years now, summer has caught up with the winter season and is just as , if not even MORE profitable? and B) I thought the parking lots were on crowd land like the park and the resort had no rights to enforce their BS?
I was there last week and the park was beat.Yep, the two furthest lots are free. You can tell by the empty lots near the lifts, obviously people are avoiding the pay parking. Haven't had any trouble getting a spot though, even showing up at mid-day during crankworx.
PS. Park is PRIMO right now after the rain last night and today!
Brian here is telling you that you can also park in the Blackcomb lot at Base2 for free.Rode the park on Thursday. Didn't park in 4 or 5 and didn't pay.
The non lazy will never have to pay.