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Pictures of old and obscure suspension bikes

thaflyinfatman

Turbo Monkey
Jul 20, 2002
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DH biker said:
Funny thing is that in 10 years everyone will be looking at our bikes and say: "Those are so rediculous looking. Who would ever ride that piece of junk type of bike."
I don't think so... DH development has slowed down quite a bit. For example, a 2000 M1 would still be considered a half-decent bike nowadays (2005), but a 1995 model anything being ridden in 2000? Don't think so...
 
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J5ive

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dw said:
It still doesn't explain why you haven't dug it out and finnished it off. Lazy bastard :love:

If you need the 6 grand, I'm sure the :monkey:'s would be happy to raise it for you! :sneaky:

But seriously- whats stopping you? If your too busy, hire someone to do your job and rip that carboard box out. Now I am being a smartarse- sorry. And I'm sure you've heard it a million times before- but the world needs your bike god dam it!
 

Mackie

Monkey
Mar 4, 2004
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New York
dw said:
There have been thousands of different suspension bikes built over time. We have a pretty resourceful group here, what have you seen? There has to be a lot of crazy stuff from the early 90s. Dig up your old pics and magazines and start scanning!

Dave
What, no URTs yet?


The crazy thing is, I still ride one of these (sometimes).
 

DRB

unemployed bum
Oct 24, 2002
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First Flight just doesn't have a photo collection. They actually have most of those bikes. If you are ever in the Charlotte / Statesville area its worth the trip.

I almost died riding this bike. I figured with suspension you could jump anything. I hit this big 'ole jump, bottomed it out and it launched me into the stratsophere. And I came straight down on my head. I was out cold for a minute or two.

 

trailhacker

Turbo Monkey
Jan 6, 2003
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In the hills around Seattle
Mackie said:
What, no URTs yet?


The crazy thing is, I still ride one of these (sometimes).
I had a Control Tech URT. I think they were making them for Schwinn and/or Ibis and made a few extras and put their decals on them.
I thought then and still think now it was a great trail bike. The only problem I had with it (besides no disc tabs) was the shock location. You only had about 1-1/2" of seatpost adjustment.
 

blt2ride

Turbo Monkey
May 25, 2005
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Chatsworth
trailhacker said:
I had a Control Tech URT. I think they were making them for Schwinn and/or Ibis and made a few extras and put their decals on them.
I thought then and still think now it was a great trail bike. The only problem I had with it (besides no disc tabs) was the shock location. You only had about 1-1/2" of seatpost adjustment.
Hey, it kind of looks like the new Mongoose... :think:
 

OGRipper

back alley ripper
Feb 3, 2004
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dhmtbj said:
haha, there is some guy who always rides around Northeastern University in boston on one of those...thing is scary!
I'm not sure we're talking about the same bike, but that would be really cool if it's true.

This was a super sci-fi all aluminum job with mag wheels, integrated cranks, disc brakes and kooky suspension, designed by Alex Pong/Magic Motorcyle. According to First Flight it was shown in 1993. They were never produced and I don't even think they ever had a working complete bike. Vaporware at it's finest.
 

MVRIDER

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Sep 23, 2003
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Mackie said:
What, no URTs yet?


The crazy thing is, I still ride one of these (sometimes).
Up until recently, CBO had a couple of those for sale (or maybe they still do). The last price I saw for the frames was $149 !
 

dw

Wiffle Ball ninja
Sep 10, 2001
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There has got to be some crazy old stuff out of Germany. Whos got the collection of old magazines! Somebody must!
 

Mackie

Monkey
Mar 4, 2004
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New York
MVRIDER said:
Up until recently, CBO had a couple of those for sale (or maybe they still do). The last price I saw for the frames was $149 !
They still have 'em. I stole their picture.
 
trailhacker said:
I had a Control Tech URT. I think they were making them for Schwinn and/or Ibis and made a few extras and put their decals on them.
I thought then and still think now it was a great trail bike. The only problem I had with it (besides no disc tabs) was the shock location. You only had about 1-1/2" of seatpost adjustment.
I still have, and ride, my Schwinn Homegrown. I still think it's a great trail bike.
 

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Mutt

Monkey
Jun 14, 2003
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Lost on Long Island
Here is on of my favorites, an old kawasaki, and an old full suspension from Thick Bikes. Notice the latter has horizontal drop outs. It was designed for use with a nexus hub.
 

RD3

Monkey
Nov 30, 2003
661
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PA
Transcend,
Here are some new pics of your old bike. No more big fork up front, head angle is slacker with the 24" rear and suspension set in the slackest setting, Risse made a stronger lower seat support. It rides pretty good, with its current build I use it mostly as a trail bike.


 

Transcend

My Nuts Are Flat
Apr 18, 2002
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Towing the party line.
Sweet, thanks for posting man. I have been waiting awhile to see these. The geometry seems to work about 1000x better with that fork. good to see they made you a stronger seat tower and got you a new sticker kit too. You have no idea how much i asked for a stronger seat tower....


RD3 said:
Transcend,
Here are some new pics of your old bike. No more big fork up front, head angle is slacker with the 24" rear and suspension set in the slackest setting, Risse made a stronger lower seat support. It rides pretty good, with its current build I use it mostly as a trail bike.


 

stiksandstones

Turbo Monkey
May 21, 2002
5,078
25
Orange, Ca
The frame was nicolai, the shock was made by nicolai. The bike design was fair enough, the shock however was a total pile of garbage...I was just learning the basics of damper units in general so when I took it apart I had no idea wtf I was looking at. Karl (nicolai) left me with a box of spares, I used them up in 2 races, I was then having everyone and anyone try to repair them at every race. Hers actually blew up while she was warming up at the worlds, but she still won, with v brakes, no damping, no chain guide...yeah, Proud ;-)
 

dw

Wiffle Ball ninja
Sep 10, 2001
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stiksandstones said:
Here is the roach my chick won the world championships on;
Whoa. That is totally out of control.


Is there no top link on that bike?!


dw
 

stiksandstones

Turbo Monkey
May 21, 2002
5,078
25
Orange, Ca
dw said:
Whoa. That is totally out of control.


Is there no top link on that bike?!


dw
seat stays were bolted to the shock, a trombone shock....yeah, it was sweet-NOT.

But Leigh and Lopes won the DH title on those (the real title too, not the 1st american bullsh1t..and Leighs worlds title) goes to show, its the pilot not the jet.
 

RaID

Turbo Monkey
RD3 said:
Transcend,
Here are some new pics of your old bike. No more big fork up front, head angle is slacker with the 24" rear and suspension set in the slackest setting, Risse made a stronger lower seat support. It rides pretty good, with its current build I use it mostly as a trail bike.



that actually looks like a pretty sweet bike
with that setup
 

RD3

Monkey
Nov 30, 2003
661
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PA
RaID said:
that actually looks like a pretty sweet bike
with that setup
Thanks.
If feels nice and compact. I would compare how it fits to a brooklyn mini-link. Its very adjustable too, headangle, bb, wheelbase. Like Transcend said the different selection of dropouts is cool.
 

James

Carbon Porn Star
Sep 11, 2001
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Danbury, CT
JohnnyBoyDH said:
Some old shots for ya!




I have some old MBA's i'll have to scan....good thread though...love the old skool DH bike!
That Marin was my DREAM bike back in the day. I remember Earthquake Jake had a super-custom on, the Ti frame, but he had Mag 21 SL-Ti rear shocks on his, since he was sponsored by Rock Shox. Super, super cool stuff!

On another note, anyone remember the Crossland frame? 4" of travel rear, looked kinda like a San Andreas. Plus they made their own fork, a 4" travel beast with super-big (for then) stantions, and an unheard-of 4" of travel. That was one of the coolest bikes I can remember seeing back then...couldn't find a pic on google, anyone have more luck than me?

JJames
 

Transcend

My Nuts Are Flat
Apr 18, 2002
18,040
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Towing the party line.
RD3 said:
Thanks.
If feels nice and compact. I would compare how it fits to a brooklyn mini-link. Its very adjustable too, headangle, bb, wheelbase. Like Transcend said the different selection of dropouts is cool.
Ya, I would actually love to give it a ride like that. Seems like the geometry is MUCH better suited to the short fork. I have them exact angles to use and lengths - all they had to do was take into account the fork height. Guess it never happenned.
 

Toshi

Harbinger of Doom
Oct 23, 2001
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Just James said:
On another note, anyone remember the Crossland frame? 4" of travel rear, looked kinda like a San Andreas. Plus they made their own fork, a 4" travel beast with super-big (for then) stantions, and an unheard-of 4" of travel. That was one of the coolest bikes I can remember seeing back then...couldn't find a pic on google, anyone have more luck than me?

JJames
yes! i remember that. had a HUGE air bladder looking rear shock... i wanted one. :)
 

MMcG

Ride till you puke!
Dec 10, 2002
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Burlington, Connecticut
GumbaFish said:
nice call with the slingshot...you wouldn't catch me on one of those things ever, so sketchy.
I'd ride one of those Slingshots. Hell when I raced the 24 Hours of Adrenaline at Dalton there were several riders using them and all of them were wicked fast!

Or Maybe I'm just wicked slow. :think:
 

trailhacker

Turbo Monkey
Jan 6, 2003
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In the hills around Seattle
My first FS bike was an AMP (B2?). I cracked the weld on the seatstay in like 6 weeks. Got a whole new frame. Cracked the headtube about one month after I got that frame. Dude that sold it to me kept hyping about how you could just rail stairs and wouldn't even feel them.
While waiting for my 3rd warranty frame I was talking to the guy that owned another shop. He just happened to also be the #2 guy at Marin back then. He offered to get me a Marin Ti Team FRS for a super good deal. He told me it was the same frame that Earthquake Jake was running and he never broke his (I found out later this wasn't exactly true).
That turned out to be my first DH race bike and oddly enough after blowing out all my elastomers (again) I still hadn't sold this brand new AMP frame so I raced it at a few races and was blown away by how much better that pinner little coil shock felt compared to the elastomers.
My buddy still has that bike as far as I know. I should go take a picture of it. Ti marin frame, ano red Machine Tech brakes, the first Ringle Superbubba hubs, Mavic Energy touring rims, Ringle stem and Mobey post. I was (and still am) a chi-chi whore!
Just James said:
That Marin was my DREAM bike back in the day. I remember Earthquake Jake had a super-custom on, the Ti frame, but he had Mag 21 SL-Ti rear shocks on his, since he was sponsored by Rock Shox. Super, super cool stuff!

On another note, anyone remember the Crossland frame? 4" of travel rear, looked kinda like a San Andreas. Plus they made their own fork, a 4" travel beast with super-big (for then) stantions, and an unheard-of 4" of travel. That was one of the coolest bikes I can remember seeing back then...couldn't find a pic on google, anyone have more luck than me?

JJames
 

xy9ine

Turbo Monkey
Mar 22, 2004
2,940
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vancouver eastside
Just James said:
On another note, anyone remember the Crossland frame? 4" of travel rear, looked kinda like a San Andreas. Plus they made their own fork, a 4" travel beast with super-big (for then) stantions, and an unheard-of 4" of travel. That was one of the coolest bikes I can remember seeing back then...couldn't find a pic on google, anyone have more luck than me?

JJames
crosstrac?
 

James

Carbon Porn Star
Sep 11, 2001
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xy9ine said:
crosstrac?
God, YES! That was it! Shoot.
Man, I wanted that bike soooo badly. 4" front and rear, super long travel back in the day. Guess I've always been more of a DH kinda guy, even way back then...
 

James

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Sep 11, 2001
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trailhacker said:
My first FS bike was an AMP (B2?). I cracked the weld on the seatstay in like 6 weeks. Got a whole new frame. Cracked the headtube about one month after I got that frame. Dude that sold it to me kept hyping about how you could just rail stairs and wouldn't even feel them.
While waiting for my 3rd warranty frame I was talking to the guy that owned another shop. He just happened to also be the #2 guy at Marin back then. He offered to get me a Marin Ti Team FRS for a super good deal. He told me it was the same frame that Earthquake Jake was running and he never broke his (I found out later this wasn't exactly true).
That turned out to be my first DH race bike and oddly enough after blowing out all my elastomers (again) I still hadn't sold this brand new AMP frame so I raced it at a few races and was blown away by how much better that pinner little coil shock felt compared to the elastomers.
My buddy still has that bike as far as I know. I should go take a picture of it. Ti marin frame, ano red Machine Tech brakes, the first Ringle Superbubba hubs, Mavic Energy touring rims, Ringle stem and Mobey post. I was (and still am) a chi-chi whore!
I rocked an AMP B-3 for a while, did my first DH race on it too, with a Judy DH (with an SL crown with the Ti bolts, and a super-rare WTB machined fork brace) and Magura hydro brakes.

Any chance you buddy might want to sell that bike? Or at least the frameset or anything? I've always, always wanted one, just like the Grafton Re-Entry levers and Mag Lite brakes, which I now own. Now that I have the money to buy things, I'm trying to go back and reward myself for rocking Exage crap on my bike in the early 90s because I was a poor high school student.
Anyway, I'd be super-interested if he would consider it...

JJames
 

SuspectDevice

Turbo Monkey
Aug 23, 2002
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Roanoke, VA


Ah the Helen, GA '94 dh course.... That would be the place to find all sorts of roachie bikes... Like the Miyata's Herbold was riding at the time that were hardtails with the back end sawed off, some bushings brazed on, and an elastomer up by the seatstay. My 14 yearold mine was utterly confused when HB described doing this in his garage to me... The bigger bike, like the one BCD posted up in his show booth was similarly made out of a rigid front triangle, but the shock was made by Arlo Englund.