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Pictures of old and obscure suspension bikes
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not terribly obscure, but neat, nonetheless (spotted on the pb b&s); i think the tazmon was sc's first squishy bike
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Goddammit, now the bikes that were "mainstream" when I started mountain biking are becoming "obscure"...not terribly obscure, but neat, nonetheless (spotted on the pb b&s); i think the tazmon was sc's first squishy bike
Never saw this crazy G-boxx beast before. TLKD bikes from '09.
That's awesome. I'm more excited about the custom avalanche crowns, but it actually looks like he didnt change the offset, which is the best reason to make new crowns.
With the xt brake, dropper, and (monarch?) this is clearly a DD.
Sorry for the bad picture, made it with my phone. Not sure what this thing is called. It was one of the shortest, steepest, highest thing I have ever seen. And the guy rode it in Lycras...
But there was a Super Monster mounted and even the cranks had holes to save weight
The guy who used to ride it was properly rapid (an Elite called Steve Barker). Watching it (and the various other versions they did) demolish Ft.Bill was a sight to behold!
Fork from a KX100 incase you're wondering!
Fresh from 2013 InterBike: Martin TREBICHAVSKY´s SCURRA Trelever[SUP]®[/SUP] - not an old but even so an obscure suspension design (deliberate double post):
Courtesy of PinkBike.com, 2013 InterBike
Courtesy of VitalMtB.com, 2013 InterBike
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Further reading and moar pics: BikeRumor.com, Scurra.eu.
suspension so bizarre no one notices the saddle designed to slide you straight onto the top tube, leading to compressed balls and knees broken by the square edge on the arm connecting the wheel to the rocker.
Well done Scurra, you've surpassed yourself.
Well done Scurra, you've surpassed yourself.
Was a stupid idea when Muddy Fox tried it with the RocknRoll in the mid 90's. Still stupid now.Fresh from 2013 InterBike: SCURRA TrClever[SUP]®[/SUP] - not an old but even so an obscure suspension design (deliberate double post):
Courtesy of PinkBike.com, 2013 InterBike
Courtesy of VitalMtB.com, 2013 InterBike
Just picked up a Cannondale SE1000, will post pics soon.
The 26" wheeled NOAH (Normally Operated Articulated Hybrid Suspension System) bike was unveiled at 2014 Bespoked UK Handbuilt Bike Show (UKHBS), London by COFA Engineering, UK (deliberate double post).
NOAH bike showcases outside-of-the-box suspension
By Ben Coxworth
April 21, 2014
One of the great facts about bicycle design is that there are at least two or three intriguing alternatives for every established way of doing things ... and suspension is certainly one of those established "things." In the past couple of years alone, we've seen leaf shocks, looped wheels and parallelogram seat posts offered up as replacements to the standard shock absorber. UK-based COFA Engineering recently showcased its own unique take on bicycle suspension, known as the NOAH system.
NOAH stands for Normally Operated Articulated Hybrid suspension system, and it was publicly displayed for the first time earlier this month at the Bespoked UK Handmade Bicycle Show in London.
It's a full-suspension system, but instead of incorporating the usual rear shock and front suspension fork, it utilizes two midships-mounted rear shocks. A linkage consisting of two A-arms runs from the telescopic fork to one of those shocks, allowing it to soak up the hits taken by the front wheel. You can see it demonstrated in the video below.
So, what's the point? According to COFA, there are several.
First of all, because the fork legs are supported closer to the wheel, they flex less. Additionally, the fork is lighter, as it doesn't contain any springs, dampers or other shock-absorbing hardware. The weight is instead moved toward the middle of the bike, thus reducing unsprung weight and improving the handling.
It's similar in principle to the single-arm telelever system, used in bikes such as the Scurra Hard Enduro. COFA, however, wanted to boost the amount of travel possible with that setup, while also improving the steering.
"The rear pivot point of the top A-arm is adjustable, allowing the path of the lower yoke to be altered for different riding conditions," COFA's Robyn Taylor explained to us. "For example ? the steering angle when not compressed can be set steeper than usual, resulting in a quick-steering bike on the flat. However, when the forks compress the steering angle can be relaxed, aiding handling over rough terrain."
Additionally, the rear suspension layout allows for the use of a Nuvinci N360 continuously-variable hub transmission, eliminating the need for a rear derailleur ? although slightly increasing the unsprung weight in the back.
In its current form, the NOAH concept bike has a whopping 230 mm of front travel, although it also tips the scales at 40 lb (18 kg). For that reason, its designers are looking into the use of lighter building materials for subsequent versions.
"The end goal is to produce a limited number," said Taylor. "We had a good response at the London show, but we do accept it's not to everyone's taste!".
Source: COFA Engineering via Bike Radar
In its current form, the NOAH concept bike has a whopping 230 mm of travel in front, although it also tips the scales at 40 lb (18 kg).
The rear pivot point of the top A-arm is adjustable, allowing the path of the lower yoke to be altered for different riding conditions.
The fork is lighter than a regular suspension fork, as it doesn't contain any springs, dampers or other shock-absorbing hardware.
The rear suspension layout allows for the use of a Nuvinci N360 continuously-variable hub transmission.
The one-of-a-kind NOAH bike.
NOAH bike showcases outside-of-the-box suspension
By Ben Coxworth
April 21, 2014
One of the great facts about bicycle design is that there are at least two or three intriguing alternatives for every established way of doing things ... and suspension is certainly one of those established "things." In the past couple of years alone, we've seen leaf shocks, looped wheels and parallelogram seat posts offered up as replacements to the standard shock absorber. UK-based COFA Engineering recently showcased its own unique take on bicycle suspension, known as the NOAH system.
NOAH stands for Normally Operated Articulated Hybrid suspension system, and it was publicly displayed for the first time earlier this month at the Bespoked UK Handmade Bicycle Show in London.
It's a full-suspension system, but instead of incorporating the usual rear shock and front suspension fork, it utilizes two midships-mounted rear shocks. A linkage consisting of two A-arms runs from the telescopic fork to one of those shocks, allowing it to soak up the hits taken by the front wheel. You can see it demonstrated in the video below.
So, what's the point? According to COFA, there are several.
First of all, because the fork legs are supported closer to the wheel, they flex less. Additionally, the fork is lighter, as it doesn't contain any springs, dampers or other shock-absorbing hardware. The weight is instead moved toward the middle of the bike, thus reducing unsprung weight and improving the handling.
It's similar in principle to the single-arm telelever system, used in bikes such as the Scurra Hard Enduro. COFA, however, wanted to boost the amount of travel possible with that setup, while also improving the steering.
"The rear pivot point of the top A-arm is adjustable, allowing the path of the lower yoke to be altered for different riding conditions," COFA's Robyn Taylor explained to us. "For example ? the steering angle when not compressed can be set steeper than usual, resulting in a quick-steering bike on the flat. However, when the forks compress the steering angle can be relaxed, aiding handling over rough terrain."
Additionally, the rear suspension layout allows for the use of a Nuvinci N360 continuously-variable hub transmission, eliminating the need for a rear derailleur ? although slightly increasing the unsprung weight in the back.
In its current form, the NOAH concept bike has a whopping 230 mm of front travel, although it also tips the scales at 40 lb (18 kg). For that reason, its designers are looking into the use of lighter building materials for subsequent versions.
"The end goal is to produce a limited number," said Taylor. "We had a good response at the London show, but we do accept it's not to everyone's taste!".
Source: COFA Engineering via Bike Radar
In its current form, the NOAH concept bike has a whopping 230 mm of travel in front, although it also tips the scales at 40 lb (18 kg).
The rear pivot point of the top A-arm is adjustable, allowing the path of the lower yoke to be altered for different riding conditions.
The fork is lighter than a regular suspension fork, as it doesn't contain any springs, dampers or other shock-absorbing hardware.
The rear suspension layout allows for the use of a Nuvinci N360 continuously-variable hub transmission.
The one-of-a-kind NOAH bike.
Well I think you'll notice a rather conspicuous lack of actual riding footage with any of these contraptions. I mean just picture it: Someone hauling ass down a trail on that bike......desert, woods.....doesn't matter. Pumping little undulations, backsiding a little rock slab, carving on a really hard leaned turn. Yeah I can't picture it either
i call it "The Castrator"
I love weird **** more than just about anybody here but no.
Maybe the NOAH bike was originally an commissional design project targeted at an advanced "tool" for a studio* named after Donatien-Alphonse-François, Marquis de SADE & Leopold Ritter von SACHER**-MASOCH.
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** ... not that famous Mr. SACHER the delicious Viennese "SACHER Torte" ("SACHER cake") was named after, but an Austrian too
Perfect for him.
In its current form, the NOAH concept bike has a whopping 230 mm of travel in front, although it also tips the scales at 40 lb (18 kg).
The rear pivot point of the top A-arm is adjustable, allowing the path of the lower yoke to be altered for different riding conditions.
The fork is lighter than a regular suspension fork, as it doesn't contain any springs, dampers or other shock-absorbing hardware.
The rear suspension layout allows for the use of a Nuvinci N360 continuously-variable hub transmission.
The one-of-a-kind NOAH bike.
Sometime ago I posted Adrian GRIFFITHS´ The TopTrail Interconnected Suspension Bicycle Project. Recently I found an article "Suspension invention: the promising TopTrail linked suspension technology" about this project and perspectives at VeloVision #41, 06-2011, 46-48, VeloVisionMag.co.uk (e-paper unfortunately not for free). However, a free German translation "Praxistaugliche Verbundfederung" w/ hi-res pics has been published at FahrradZukunft #15, 04-2013, 17-21, FahrradZukunft.de (deliberate double post).Another interesting concept bike with a linkage fork and many more funny approaches was designed by Adrian GRIFFITHS at TopTrail Ltd. (CEng MIMechE), a professional engineer with over 25 years experience in automotive chassis engineering, and built by Dave WRATH-SHARMAN of Highpath Engineering as a functional prototype: The "Interconnected Suspension Bicycle Project", an all terrain concept bike.
Adrian GRIFFITHS, CEng MIMechE.
Early prototype.
Technical paper (PDF)
Videos technology:
Videos performance:
Man that thing is alot of information to process...
Is it ok to use a chain for braking?
Is it ok to use a chain for braking?
dodzy (of zerode fame; RIP) built a gearbox dh sled w/ an onboard brake. i assume it works; just sucks if you snap a chain. the ultimate in low unsprung weight, though.
Really interesting concept. Would love to see a video walk-through of it.
now i would have just used a hose clamp. that's serious commitment to the craft.
So much for Push and their travel spacers...
Does is qualify as "External Travel Adjust"?
Does is qualify as "External Travel Adjust"?
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"Die Maschine" ("The Machine") was built by Sebastian AKA Highsider & Mick JORDAN. The full story, pics & talk @ The Internet Bike Community (IBC).
Further reading:
Not old, but a little obscure: early test mule for Santa Cruz's new Nomad:
More pretty pictures from SC headquarter and strange foreign words here: http://www.mtb-news.de/news/2015/04/14/santa-cruz-bicycles-hausbesuch/
More pretty pictures from SC headquarter and strange foreign words here: http://www.mtb-news.de/news/2015/04/14/santa-cruz-bicycles-hausbesuch/
Read a relatively new article on the millyard racing bike on dirt, seems like such a cool bike:
http://dirtmountainbike.com/news/mag-invention-millyards-new-front-damper.html##I5Z8UAoMGRxFcSdF.97
http://dirtmountainbike.com/news/mag-invention-millyards-new-front-damper.html##I5Z8UAoMGRxFcSdF.97
Don't know if this was posted yet, but my wife's 1st "DH" bike was a Haro MX2- not our bike but one similar...still have the frame in our garage, holding up some X mas lights above the bar!
im still waiting for more info (or any info) on his rear shock that he said was "classified" info last i heardRead a relatively new article on the millyard racing bike on dirt, seems like such a cool bike:
http://dirtmountainbike.com/news/mag-invention-millyards-new-front-damper.html##I5Z8UAoMGRxFcSdF.97
Its 'used in tanks dude, TANKS!!! Do you want ISIS to win?im still waiting for more info (or any info) on his rear shock that he said was "classified" info last i heard