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Please help: mounting Hayes brakes

dan_mtcycle

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Jun 14, 2002
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I'm mounting 2003 Hayes HFX Mag's w/ 8" rotor on a 2002 White Bros DH2. Hub is 20mm T/A Velocity hub. My problem is that with the adapter (Hayes IS 20mm) the caliper is stil a 1/4" or so way from the rotor (see pic). Is there and adapter for the rotor where it can be spaced away from the hub body, or some other solution?
 

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binary visions

The voice of reason
Jun 13, 2002
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Here's what looks like the problem to me - most fork legs are spaced only as far apart as the hub is wide. There is no way that I know of - nor should there be a a way - to space the rotor from the hub. What you need, I think, is a new (wider) adapter.. I don't know why the leg is spaced so far away from the hub. You may want to contact White Bros and ask about adapters.

Certainly plenty of people run White Bros forks and I'm sure some must run Hayes, so if you talk to WB or Hayes, one of them will be familliar with the problem.
 

dan_mtcycle

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Jun 14, 2002
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The space can only mount on the side the the axle threads to, in addition, it centers the wheel in the fork. I tried swaping it to the other side to see if the caliper would fit with no luck.
 

binary visions

The voice of reason
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Originally posted by dan_mtcycle
The space can only mount on the side the the axle threads to, in addition, it centers the wheel in the fork. I tried swaping it to the other side to see if the caliper would fit with no luck.
Oh, I'm sure it's meant to be there and you're not doing anything wrong, but those adapters are meant for forks that have the proper spacing for the front hub - the WB seems to have a wider stance, I guess.

If you wanted to rig it, you could probably get some longer bolts and a bunch of different thickness washers from your local hardware store and experiement with spacing the adapter further in.
 
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Joe33

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Someone brought this up before with a super T and the solution was to just use longer bolts and some washers like stated above my post. Plust I can tell you I did this with a junior T for a couple weeks and it worked fine.
 
Spacing the mounting bracket out 3/8 of an inch or so with hardware store washers is a death wish move.

Call up White brothers and ask for assistance. My HFX manual does not show a bracket for that particular fork.

Another thought - is the wheel centered on the steerer tube? Perhaps the spacer highlighted by binary visions supposed to be on the other side of the wheel.

J
 

dan_mtcycle

Chimp
Jun 14, 2002
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Ohio
The wheel is centered with the spacer on that side of the hub, it only fits on the one side anway. I tried contacting White Bros. (and Hayes) with no response so far.:rolleyes: A couple people suggested spacing the the adapter from the brake mount on the fork, which will require 10mm spacers. Don't know if this will work, but I'm not sure what else to try. Anyone know where I can get spacers that are longer rather than stacking a bunch of smaller washers. Thanks for all the advice so far.
 

Brian HCM#1

Don’t feed the troll
Sep 7, 2001
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The 10mm spacer is on the wrong side( it goes on the nondisc side), so you'll probably need to redish the wheel to get it recentered. But that will fix your issue.
 

dan_mtcycle

Chimp
Jun 14, 2002
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Ohio
When I move the axle spacer to the non-disc side, it slips into the lower leg, but when its on the disc side it butts up against the lower holding the wheel in place. Seems like moving the axle spacer to the non-disc side is not an option.
 

Brian HCM#1

Don’t feed the troll
Sep 7, 2001
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Originally posted by dan_mtcycle
When I move the axle spacer to the non-disc side, it slips into the lower leg, but when its on the disc side it butts up against the lower holding the wheel in place. Seems like moving the axle spacer to the non-disc side is not an option.
Thats ok, its the same diameter as the axle head so its not going to slip off. When the axle is threaded into the lower before you tighten the clamps, push up and down on the fork to set it. Tighten the clamps and your done. Trust me, I sell the flippen forks. Look at my fork, its very straight forward.
 

dan_mtcycle

Chimp
Jun 14, 2002
32
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Ohio
Realized that I probably wouldn't have the problem if I threaded the axle all the way through an tightened it after moving the spacer to the non-disc side. One last question. I'm not familiar with redishing the wheel, are there some special instructions I should give to the mech at my lbs? Thanks for all the help.
 

Brian HCM#1

Don’t feed the troll
Sep 7, 2001
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Originally posted by dan_mtcycle
Realized that I probably wouldn't have the problem if I threaded the axle all the way through an tightened it after moving the spacer to the non-disc side. One last question. I'm not familiar with redishing the wheel, are there some special instructions I should give to the mech at my lbs? Thanks for all the help.
Nope, just bring the spacer with you to the bike shop (it needs to be placed in the 20mm adaptors for truing) Make sure you tell him to dish it with the spacer on the nondisc side;) :) Happy riding:cool:
 

ohio

The Fresno Kid
Nov 26, 2001
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Just to get my boy's back: Brian is 100% correct. Spacer on non-disc side, no problem if it slips inside the clamps, dish it WITH the spacer on the non-disk side.