Why wouldn’t they just machine a one piece headtube and glue the rest together?
Pole Bikes hates Ridemonkey
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And this is why you can't nicely hydroform it. But round-tubed frames are soooo last century, who wants to get caught on one these days?
To be fair that clearly failed on a weld, Pole says they’ve solved that issue ...
judging from the Nike’s and 888, that guy rolled out of the bong shed with too little velocity.
7000 is stronger. Not denying that. It's just a ton of Euro companies were using them back in the day because of availability. 15 years ago most Yurp companies were using 7005 not 6061. Also because of no heat treating. My Czech Turner DHR knockoff was made from 7005. Also many wonky engineers fetishize getting better materials and they forget about proper testing. Though what's the point of using super duper 7075 when you can't weld it? It's good for bars, it's good for other parts that can be cnc'd but not frames.
To me Pole seems to be chasing "cool" engineering ideas instead of ones that actually work. I was tempted by the pole due to geo but then again you can get a Nicolai geometron with as crazy geo (or your own custom) and have a bike that will not fail (but will also have crazy euro engineering ideas).
Steampunk e-bike?Nicolai will always be synonymous with wild ideas and perfect welds.
Oooh, how I used to lust after the nucleon. DW used to own one too!
Same here. I test rode the first iteration at a demo and liked the concept but not the 25 kg weight and the 2.1 rear tire clearance.
To be fair, that 4x3x1 foot block of aluminum weighed a lot more before they machined a bit of it away.
i‘m pretty sure that block was measuered properly and not the wrong way...
I bet maybe 30% of the total weight was the screws holding everythig together.
See? just what the Pole was missing
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See? just what the Pole was missing
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would love that as a wallhanger. once adequate wall reinforcements had been made, of course.
got i remember the shop i worked at received one of the first orders of some new fancy carbon road bike way back, i think 2005. half the frames on the pallet came separated after shipment. sent 'em all back. cancelled the account with them.
Is that a futuristic chainsaw?
Saturn 14 ST definitely looks like a fun trail bike to try.
i saw a video its a proof of concept built to test a dual shock front end - regular fork + linkage thingy built in the frame
You could go 7005 Easton RAD tubes for a more modern lookAnd this is why you can't nicely hydroform it. But round-tubed frames are soooo last century, who wants to get caught on one these days?
Is Nicolai the only company that went full retard and didn't go bust? I was pretty bummed that Empire never came out with a third frame, they were doing hollow cast swingarms on their AM frame.
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Although they have some QC issues at the moment, and are out of my price range, I would love to try one or both of the new Stamina 140 or 180. Although it seems I would be taking my life in my hands, they do sound like they are onto something, Every article and test seems to say they do not ride like you may assume just looking at the numbers and that when it comes to pure speed they are a different animal. I don't know if It would be the best fit for me, but I would love to see if they really are like the articles make them out to be?
all practical considerations aside (price, dubious durability), the stamina would be near the top of my most wanted list. sexy beasts, those.
Is Pole offering anything that radical at this point?
Other frames in 2020 have similar geo, probably cheaper, probably not falling to pieces beneath you.
Other frames in 2020 have similar geo, probably cheaper, probably not falling to pieces beneath you.
I'd be curious which brands Geo are the most similar to pole stamina?
Frame made in two halves comes apart at the seams...
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Catastrophic failure Pole Stamina 180mm
just gonna leave this here, next to my bucket of airplane glue.forums.mtbr.com
*clamps milled from two blocks and glued together
However the clamps also come with a complementary bottle of glue.
I don't think Raaw and Privateer as as looong as Geometron and Pole.
