Don't worry the engineers added an extra 90 grams of aluminium, bet the new swing arm can handle atleast 3 footers?
Even if it stayed together what is the benefit of riding a 140mm bike if it weighs 3 lbs less than the new gambler with dh rubber?
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Even if it stayed together what is the benefit of riding a 140mm bike if it weighs 3 lbs less than the new gambler with dh rubber?
Deadset they've stated multiple times they're not commenting until the review is released with all the details in one go. But yeah sure, the lizard overlords behind a 30 person company like Rocky probably abducted a journalist and threatened PB to cover up the incident.
Me: Reads PB Super Hot Dog Rocketship #1 Bicycle Ensemble.
Puts ODI Lock Rings around ESI Super Chunky Foam Grips on a Karate Monkey and 2007 IHBC 6Point.
50% Approve.
Puts ODI Lock Rings around ESI Super Chunky Foam Grips on a Karate Monkey and 2007 IHBC 6Point.
50% Approve.
Wasn't the huck to flat demo much bigger last year? I thought they were jumping Levy's VW?
XC swing arm or not, I wouldn't want to ride a delicate flower like that. Didn't a few XC world cups have sizable drops on them? If those road dirt bikes can handle that....
XC swing arm or not, I wouldn't want to ride a delicate flower like that. Didn't a few XC world cups have sizable drops on them? If those road dirt bikes can handle that....
No conspiracy there mate. RM just spends money so PB is slightly nicer to them. All that I've suggested.
I think they should find someone to fabricate the same frame but then tell people the geo numbers.
Agreed. I've done genuine 3ft drops to flat on 22lb xc bikes... repeatedly. This is a 32lb "trail" bike with deemax wheels and it can't handle being less than a wheel height up in the air? Weak.
Then again maybe a freak accident? I've done multiple hucks to flat on my Ellsworth Joker so I'd be surprised if any of those bikes are genuinely weaker than the frame known around the world for its durability.
If a swingarm can break on a super small drop It'd break in testing multiple times unless they only rode around the parking lot. The Pole guys seem to be good riders or they at least give the bikes to good riders so that surprises me.
PB might have intentionally lower the pressure in the shock to be sure to properly hit bottom out, who knows?
Anyhow this wing-like construction might be ok when exposed to tension, they certainly help too with aerodynamic but they are rubbish when it comes to compression...
Anyhow this wing-like construction might be ok when exposed to tension, they certainly help too with aerodynamic but they are rubbish when it comes to compression...
Its suprising
1. They would build a swingarm that fragile for any bike, road, xc, or wal mart special.
2. They would send out a test bike without putting it through its paces with test riders first.
3. They are arrogant enough to think adding 90 grams is gonna make it bulletproof.
4. They have the balls to try to market a heavy trailbike for 6k+ with the "we know better attitude" and the pos doesn't even stay together with the downcountry cowboy hitting a 1.5 foot drop.
Textbook example of what happens when industrial designers feel smarter than mechanical engineers.
comment from Brian Park said they actually increased air pressure for the 'huck' shot
Buckling seems not to be in the vocabulary of these people.
Can you thell the difference between the failing and the bulletproof beam? Also, why wouldn't you build a one piece rear end? Pole getting too stiff?
1. Acquire the blue pill that old guys need (or use your own stash). To be clear, tiger bones or other bizarre big cat tissues are in no way an effective substitute.
2. Using a crucible, grind up pill to a fine powder (as difficult as this may be, make a concerted effort not to snort this off a mirror and break out the flesh light)
3. Pour 4 oz of liquid self etching primer into a 9" sauce pan, bring to a low simmer.
4. Slowly mix in dick pill powder. Reduce heat and cover for 10 minutes or until it forms a fine paste. For a little pizzazz, you can also add 1 drop of JB Weld and/or a dash of @jdcamb approved glitter.
5. Remove from heat and scrape boner paste into a small dish.
6. Using a clean cloth (ie - not your underwear) apply a liberal coat on bent, flaccid Pole area.
7. Wait 24 hours for paste to harden on the Pole. And now you can snort some blue powder and hammer it out with your fleshlight.
8. ???
9. Inspect Pole to make sure it's all straight and shit.
10. Go ride that Pole off the nearest 2 foot drop and get rad AF.
Ol'Leo owes me bigtime!
How I didn't become a chemical engineer will always remain a mystery.
2. Using a crucible, grind up pill to a fine powder (as difficult as this may be, make a concerted effort not to snort this off a mirror and break out the flesh light)
3. Pour 4 oz of liquid self etching primer into a 9" sauce pan, bring to a low simmer.
4. Slowly mix in dick pill powder. Reduce heat and cover for 10 minutes or until it forms a fine paste. For a little pizzazz, you can also add 1 drop of JB Weld and/or a dash of @jdcamb approved glitter.
5. Remove from heat and scrape boner paste into a small dish.
6. Using a clean cloth (ie - not your underwear) apply a liberal coat on bent, flaccid Pole area.
7. Wait 24 hours for paste to harden on the Pole. And now you can snort some blue powder and hammer it out with your fleshlight.
8. ???
9. Inspect Pole to make sure it's all straight and shit.
10. Go ride that Pole off the nearest 2 foot drop and get rad AF.
Ol'Leo owes me bigtime!
How I didn't become a chemical engineer will always remain a mystery.
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crazy thin cross sections, huh? even IF if the fea said that was good to go, i'd be adding beef just from an aesthetics / peace of mind perspective.Buckling seems not to be in the vocabulary of these people.
Can you thell the difference between the failing and the bulletproof beam? Also, why wouldn't you build a one piece rear end? Pole getting too stiff?
i was referring to the *other* failure, but re: your post, i don't think FEA would say that's ok.
...out of steel.
Been waiting for this from the moment the drama enrolled. Was not disappointed. Where's the fucking rep button?
Pole is now off my shortlist of hardtails.
That intense running a plus tire to make up for a botched mullet offering is pretty embarrassing too.
It’s an Intense so I just assume it wasn’t designed or manufactured properly either.
3. Maybe they are saying they are adding 90g but they found a structural error and 90g is just what they say to customers and media?
4. Yeah the price is pretty steep for what they offer. Though I totally get an expensive, heavy trailbike but they need to go with craftsmanship first like Nicholai.
Rebirth of HCOR!
"The André the Giant of this match has to be the rather large and extremely capable Stamina 140, although ol' André never had moves like the Stamina's, may they both rest in peace. Besides both being the biggest of their peers, they also share something else: An early death. Congestive heart failure in a Paris hotel room took André from us, and a two-foot-tall ramp in an empty Squamish parking lot killed the aluminum Stamina. Read all about the specifics of that particular elephant in the room here. "
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Field Test Editors' Choice: Optic vs Occam vs Primer S vs Stamina - 2020 Trail Bikes - Pinkbike
Four bikes, one fatality, and one winner. Who ya got?
I love how the best bike in that shootout (that actually survived) is the mass produced Norco which costs several thousand dollars less than the others. Yee-ha that's a good thing.Field Test Editors' Choice: Optic vs Occam vs Primer S vs Stamina - 2020 Trail Bikes - Pinkbike
Four bikes, one fatality, and one winner. Who ya got?
But you get less dentist points with a Norco
In your experience?
I think they learned their lesson 10+ years ago, recalling 5000+ bikes ain't fun.
I remember that, but wasn‘t aware about the numbers.
Now I know, why they are built a little bulky. Emptybeer has a few weights from new owners. New Sight AL in large weighs around 36lbs.
