Post Office About To Go Tango Uniform.
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Not in the slightest. 99% of what I get every month is junk or bills, and bills are often superfluous with emails and online notification telling me what is due and when. Actually, I might even look forward to it going away since it will mean 5min per day that I won't have to shred CC offers and the "just sign and deposit this check and you'll have $10,000 at a 17% annual interest rate" crap.
It isn't bad if it went away, unless you live in a rural area.
My place in MN has four offices, in a three mile circle of my house.
Where I am in Nebrasaka one in town, next 30 miles away.
My place in MN has four offices, in a three mile circle of my house.
Where I am in Nebrasaka one in town, next 30 miles away.
Would it be presumptuous to assume that your town in Nebraska is full of "small government conservatives" as well?
We pay all of our bills online. The only time we get any mail that means any thing its magazines we have subscribed too and/or birthday cards.
Dante, my junk mail was cut a good 75% by going here. Kind of a do-not-call list for your mail box.
Probably, I don't do much socializing there.
I can say the same was true in the town I grew up in it is 35 miles to the next post office.
And they tend to be very liberal there.
I hate typing on this phone.
I think this might the battleground between government unions and reality.
Postal workers will have to be frank with the public about the no-fire clauses and be willing to take cuts with their pensions, or no more USPS.
They won't be able to count on the government for a bailout, since they are not a bank.
Postal workers will have to be frank with the public about the no-fire clauses and be willing to take cuts with their pensions, or no more USPS.
They won't be able to count on the government for a bailout, since they are not a bank.
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I use a mail forwarding service anyways
Not really. The USPS has to deliver mail to every address in the US, no matter how unprofitable, they have to fund their pensions to a degree not required of ANY OTHER entity in the United States, and they aren't allowed to raise rates without congressional approval, which they frequently don't get.
Personally, I look forward to a large employer of military veterans going out of business. Should do nothing but help the employment market in the US of A...
benny franklin cares.
i was there today...i cant believe they want to close this one.
i was there today...i cant believe they want to close this one.
suck it unions!!
Hey! A Labor Day rant!
I ship 100% of my packages USPS,- It's cheaper and more reliable than my whoopdedoo FeDex business account and offers me feasible 2 day pricing and it's the only reasonable way to ship bikes and frames internationally.
I can get a frame to Australia foe $100 USPS or $450 through fedex, usps, dhl, etc.
I wouldn't do any international sales if it wasn't for the post office...
This is a small city so I know all of the letter carriers and PO staff by name. I love my fedx guy and UPS guy too. One's a pro mx racer and the other one is a pothead.
Lots of the Postal folks around here have limited mental capacities, ptsd and/or are just plain weird. I'm stoked that they have health insurance and steady pay that keeps them out of the vicious cycle of poverty, a job they can be proud of. The American premise is that we take care of our own, that everyone deserves th right to work an that work is a stable, a place to go to earn your bread.
All the other carriers lean over backward just like the postal guys, but they'll never be cheaper than USPS for my business... Of course how little I pay and how well they treat their employees is one of the main factors in their current financial woes.
The USPS gives me the flexibility to determine my own pickup, they speed up customs and the provide me with an inexpensive COD service.
Packages are clearly the future of the institution. They'll need to keep letter carriers on hand indefinitely serve their historic function, delivering mail.
I won't be surprised if we see an aggressive lobbying campaign backed by the for-profit shipping companies to gut the USPS. I'm sure that's already happening
Attending labor protests is one of my incidental pasttimes. I was in Madison for a few days, I spent 3 days on the line with my local IBEW(Verizon is right across from the coffee shop. Bougie!) and scored some bonus points with a stunning professor by sitting in with the graduate employees student union a few times after class. Whitecollar middle class petit-bourgeois lip-service, one could certainly make the claim.
I'll certainly be out there with my friends when the Postal strikes start to show solidarity- they deserve their fight, and the government must honor their contracts not through caprice but through good-faith negotiation. That's what's worth fighting for, that is the spirit of the labor movement that built this country and it's the proper way to avoid selling more working men and women to the same firms and ideas that attempted to smother them back in the early 80's.
Of course we all know in our heart of hearts that the workers will lose their fight to keep things as they are now. I'm cool with that if it keeps my prices low. In the end, rebuilding American Industry will take flexibility, maximizing margins and quick delivery times. If cuts can make the PO more efficient while offering one or two less mail-carriers jobs, that's cool. They'll retire them by seniority and guess what? A letter carrier probably has a much bigger pension than you or me. I'm sure I'll sound like a 10th grade Marxist here but an injury to one really is an injury to all in the labor movement. Many demagogues say to give up the struggle, to lay down and let the pudgy oligarchs smother employees at will.
We're already seeing how squishy money-rich pseudo-Libertarian jerkoffs are manipulating people from "right-to-work" states into the same sort of sophisticated political mobilization that once supported the progressive legislation that helped America build and retain it's industrial capacity up into the seventies. The death of American Industry didn't have a darn thing to do demands for wages and benefits.
Poor political decisions and pure greed destroyed our nation. Nobody asked The Workers what they thought about foreign policy or globalization or inflation or nuclear superiority...
Time after time you hear the right-wing elite demonize something that they don't fully understand or bitterly despise, as some sort of barrier to "American Competitiveness".
The media chooses to portray Labor as a bunch of whiny jerkoffs who don't live in reality. In reality Labor is snapshot of the disintegrating american middle class distilled into 7% of the workforce.
The landscape of American politics doesn't resemble the world seen from the picket lines, the stories we hear about the privations of average working families. There is something wrong when the best blue-collar job in town still isn't enough to keep a family of 4, with a spouse working two full-time jobs warm, safe and fed. These are people with the best benefits in town, most likely with the best paying wages. They live in constant fear, from paycheck to paycheck. Their union dues are not the issue. Non union workers, especially people of color have it much worse in many cases.
I would hope that the population at large can understand the difference between eliminating and restructuring jobs in a fading industry(the USPS) and sticking a knife in the gut of teachers and municipal employees. If the schools received appropriate funding it would be a whole lot more likely that citizens would have the appropriate mental faculties to analyze the world around them.
Postal employees probably don't face the prospect of the heat getting turned off, that's not the point- the last gasp of labor is a fight against Precedent. Depressing. With the ever-widening wealth gap and the increased criminalization of poverty you have to assume that working class might finally express their rage in convergence with all the 20 something college grads who are unemployed, a little high and angry into a new, angry and organised human mass. This is a familiar sounding formula that will happen here when people stop watching Glee.
Activists unions and dissidents need to access to some sort of power to be effective. This power is going to have come via massing bodies together behind the barricades in acts of civil disobedience and mischief. Hackers are doing a hell of a job defending electronic freedom but without money the dissidents don't have access to the media or government. That's only for millionaires. The security apparatus could kill any of them with a drone at any time. The Constitution is stacked against them at every corner. Of course surface mail is harder to track than electronic communications.
Whatever the hell happens, the Postal Service is going to be there in some capacity delivering free speech and contraband from one location to another.
I ship 100% of my packages USPS,- It's cheaper and more reliable than my whoopdedoo FeDex business account and offers me feasible 2 day pricing and it's the only reasonable way to ship bikes and frames internationally.
I can get a frame to Australia foe $100 USPS or $450 through fedex, usps, dhl, etc.
I wouldn't do any international sales if it wasn't for the post office...
This is a small city so I know all of the letter carriers and PO staff by name. I love my fedx guy and UPS guy too. One's a pro mx racer and the other one is a pothead.
Lots of the Postal folks around here have limited mental capacities, ptsd and/or are just plain weird. I'm stoked that they have health insurance and steady pay that keeps them out of the vicious cycle of poverty, a job they can be proud of. The American premise is that we take care of our own, that everyone deserves th right to work an that work is a stable, a place to go to earn your bread.
All the other carriers lean over backward just like the postal guys, but they'll never be cheaper than USPS for my business... Of course how little I pay and how well they treat their employees is one of the main factors in their current financial woes.
The USPS gives me the flexibility to determine my own pickup, they speed up customs and the provide me with an inexpensive COD service.
Packages are clearly the future of the institution. They'll need to keep letter carriers on hand indefinitely serve their historic function, delivering mail.
I won't be surprised if we see an aggressive lobbying campaign backed by the for-profit shipping companies to gut the USPS. I'm sure that's already happening
Attending labor protests is one of my incidental pasttimes. I was in Madison for a few days, I spent 3 days on the line with my local IBEW(Verizon is right across from the coffee shop. Bougie!) and scored some bonus points with a stunning professor by sitting in with the graduate employees student union a few times after class. Whitecollar middle class petit-bourgeois lip-service, one could certainly make the claim.
I'll certainly be out there with my friends when the Postal strikes start to show solidarity- they deserve their fight, and the government must honor their contracts not through caprice but through good-faith negotiation. That's what's worth fighting for, that is the spirit of the labor movement that built this country and it's the proper way to avoid selling more working men and women to the same firms and ideas that attempted to smother them back in the early 80's.
Of course we all know in our heart of hearts that the workers will lose their fight to keep things as they are now. I'm cool with that if it keeps my prices low. In the end, rebuilding American Industry will take flexibility, maximizing margins and quick delivery times. If cuts can make the PO more efficient while offering one or two less mail-carriers jobs, that's cool. They'll retire them by seniority and guess what? A letter carrier probably has a much bigger pension than you or me. I'm sure I'll sound like a 10th grade Marxist here but an injury to one really is an injury to all in the labor movement. Many demagogues say to give up the struggle, to lay down and let the pudgy oligarchs smother employees at will.
We're already seeing how squishy money-rich pseudo-Libertarian jerkoffs are manipulating people from "right-to-work" states into the same sort of sophisticated political mobilization that once supported the progressive legislation that helped America build and retain it's industrial capacity up into the seventies. The death of American Industry didn't have a darn thing to do demands for wages and benefits.
Poor political decisions and pure greed destroyed our nation. Nobody asked The Workers what they thought about foreign policy or globalization or inflation or nuclear superiority...
Time after time you hear the right-wing elite demonize something that they don't fully understand or bitterly despise, as some sort of barrier to "American Competitiveness".
The media chooses to portray Labor as a bunch of whiny jerkoffs who don't live in reality. In reality Labor is snapshot of the disintegrating american middle class distilled into 7% of the workforce.
The landscape of American politics doesn't resemble the world seen from the picket lines, the stories we hear about the privations of average working families. There is something wrong when the best blue-collar job in town still isn't enough to keep a family of 4, with a spouse working two full-time jobs warm, safe and fed. These are people with the best benefits in town, most likely with the best paying wages. They live in constant fear, from paycheck to paycheck. Their union dues are not the issue. Non union workers, especially people of color have it much worse in many cases.
I would hope that the population at large can understand the difference between eliminating and restructuring jobs in a fading industry(the USPS) and sticking a knife in the gut of teachers and municipal employees. If the schools received appropriate funding it would be a whole lot more likely that citizens would have the appropriate mental faculties to analyze the world around them.
Postal employees probably don't face the prospect of the heat getting turned off, that's not the point- the last gasp of labor is a fight against Precedent. Depressing. With the ever-widening wealth gap and the increased criminalization of poverty you have to assume that working class might finally express their rage in convergence with all the 20 something college grads who are unemployed, a little high and angry into a new, angry and organised human mass. This is a familiar sounding formula that will happen here when people stop watching Glee.
Activists unions and dissidents need to access to some sort of power to be effective. This power is going to have come via massing bodies together behind the barricades in acts of civil disobedience and mischief. Hackers are doing a hell of a job defending electronic freedom but without money the dissidents don't have access to the media or government. That's only for millionaires. The security apparatus could kill any of them with a drone at any time. The Constitution is stacked against them at every corner. Of course surface mail is harder to track than electronic communications.
Whatever the hell happens, the Postal Service is going to be there in some capacity delivering free speech and contraband from one location to another.
Madison... Wisconsin?
Of course. Quaker/Unitarian wedding. Beer pong. Swell town. Like Burlington but with Fried cheese and no hills.
Great post SD. Approved!
why do you hate the working man?
We pay all of our bills online.
I'm a west coast raised elitist. I can't help it.
while waiting to see the french movie point blank yesterday....i saw a levis ad selling this.....how cute....do they employ any union workers in the US anymore?
That would be this, I assume?
http://us.levi.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=11326985
The cynical side of me guesses that there is a facility in Guam or the Marianas that makes those, and then they slap "Made in the USA" on it.
Of course, Ikea is using a place in Virginia as low cost labor:
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/apr/10/business/la-fi-ikea-union-20110410
Yep, parts of the USA are officially third-world.
To even know about that, you have to be a hipster at some level.
Look down: You wearing Mooshoo's girl pants?
That is interesting though: A one man show charges less than Levis. Terry Richardson's fees and rape payoffs must be expensive.
I like the concept, it's like getting a bike from a framebuilder instead of buying whatever Trek pops out of a mold, even if it isn't custom.
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chalk it up to boredom.
Then who will go postal? Or worse, will all of them go at once?
That could be worse than zombies in some areas.
That could be worse than zombies in some areas.
Help desk / call center employees.
Edit: Ack. I posted in the PAWN. I feel dirty now.
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You have to OWN a gun to go postal. Most of the tech support folks I know struggle enough with the English language, I would hate to see them with a firearm.
I like the post office. It proves what an organization can offer as a base level of care at the lowest possible cost. To send a letter ANYWHERE in the entire country is $0.42. That's what, one fifth of what a private company would charge? No, it's not some high-tech setup, but it's simple, effective and cheap. It makes me wonder what our health care would be like if it were set up that way: simple effective and cheap care for the majority of citizens. Higher priced care for those who want to pay for it (just like people have options of shipping with FedEx or UPS).
I think if it were any of those things, it wouldn't be f@cked.
<edit> Not to bash on the USPS, but they have not made an attempt to come up to speed or keep up with even the remotest of competition. But they have done a good job of raising rates.
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What the heck are you talking about? Please provide evidence.
shipping packages via the USPS is much cheaper then using UPS and or FedEx. and their flat rate boxes/envelopes are awesome. i try to use the USPS every time i ship something
it's the execution of delivery.....have you ever explained to a mailman for a week straight why you shouldn't be getting the same piece of fvcking mail?
Paying more and getting a beat up package from UPS is a better deal
I've shipped and receive 1000s of packages from the various carriers - I've only had to file damage or theft claims with UPS.
lol no. i really havent had any issues with my mail lady since ive owned my house.
what i do like about getting packages from the USPS is that it comes before noon. UPS and FedEx usually dont deliver to my house until after 5pm, which can be a huge PITA if i have to sign for something. i see its "out for delivery" at 5am but yet it doesnt get to my house for another 12 hours and their depots are a few minutes away.
An entire brand-new Sunday Worldcup once vanished from the UPS depot in Brattleboro. It took my friend 2 months to process his claim...Paying more and getting a beat up package from UPS is a better deal