valve bouncer said:I'm not with this aggrorider dude but mate, be honest, smoking pot and driving is not a good idea. Don't kid yourself that you're in control. You're not. I'm a fine one to talk as I've driven stoned far too many times (although not recently) but I don't kid myself that it doesn't effect my driving. I think one or two bongs (depending on the pot) is probably like 2 or 3 beers, you're OK to drive...but if you've had a big session of evil gear don't even think about it.
not a problem it's a new Rusty tour I am doing in 06llkoolkeg said:Niiiiice. To witness that, you'll have to climb ganja mountain with Chef Ra or trailblazer.
seriously FUC* OFFaggrorider said:Omg, wtf is the matter w/ you people. I constantly think this sport is going into the skater crowd with the black clothing, chains and now to finalize it....pot. Of all things to get a buz on why pot? The **** is so bad for you and I don't care what you say. Do you guys like your image to come accross as stupid. I know a guy at a local bike shop that smokes pot quite often at 63 years of age and the guy is a dumbass. I mean really he knows nothing about the mechanics of a bike. I just don't see why you guys would waste such a good mind that our creater gave us. (I'm not preaching here) Plus one joint, blunt or whatever you guys do is so much worse for you than cigarettes. I know people personally that smoke weed and they are so much worse off heath wise at age 16(these kids have a cold and cough constantly) than my 63 year old grandmother than smokes cigarettes like a chimney. Just don't do it and that is my $0.02, Cah-Ching! :eviltongu
ya we are touchy...you call herb a DRUG and it is not.aggrorider said:Okay, now you guys are putting words into my mouth. The only reason this guy is a dumbass is because he smokes constantly and has tried other things. Think about it, if you are under the influence of pot you don't come off as being a mature inteligent person. Therefore, people get that impression. When you are not high you are what you are. So why do you guys feel that you need to smoke pot and still have the chance of people seeing you in a non-presentable condition. And yes I do get "Aggro" about this issue boostindoubles because I do not like seeing people when they are high. First off they eat all my food and second I feel very uncomfortable when they have no control over themselves and I have to watch out for them. Plus being a firefighter I see on so many occasions drug related misshaps so yeah it definitely upsets me. I have seen very scary things and well I get touchy about it. Sorry if I upset some people and I apologize if I did. Just a touchy subject.
Dude, you posted a flaming post in the middle of the pot thread. You couldn't have been a bigger douch had you tried. In addition you have no idea about that which you speak of. You regurgitate whatever your DARE education and the handy pamphlets you got from the doctors office told you without bothering to check facts, think about what you read, or (most importantly) MINDING YOUR OWN BUSINESS.aggrorider said:Dude read my other posts on this thread before you flip a sh*t on me. Jeeze, if you go back a page of two you will find why I am agianst the drug. I don't mind people that do it but I just have no interest in the stuff. (I find this in all the other biking forums I'm in. Please people read posts before you act)
interesting semantics...what makes a "drug" a "drug"? chemical synthesis? further processing?trailblazer said:ya we are touchy...you call herb a DRUG and it is not.
Hang out, stay a while... have a smoke...aggrorider said:Okay I am sorry for what I did now will you people stop busting my balls. I stopped talking about this subject a page or so back, but you guys are the ones who keep on bringing it up. I was the one willing to stop and I have. Now please end this small subject. And on a side note I am not saying ALL pot smoking people are stupid. I had a teacher last year that smoked pot on a regular bases and he is one of the smartest people I know. But you have to admit that with anything and everything that is SMOKED there has got to be some small side effects. Okay now I have ended my stay in this thread please drop what I have said and proceed with whatever you wish.
I think he is differentiating between the two by the amount of processing. The herb itself isn't a drug, but the THC contained within IS a drug. The poppy flower isn't a drug, but the products produced are drugs (heroin, morphine, etc). That's how I am reading it anyway.narlus said:interesting semantics...what makes a "drug" a "drug"? chemical synthesis? further processing?
George Bushnarlus said:interesting semantics...what makes a "drug" a "drug"? chemical synthesis? further processing?
i'm not trolling, just asking a question. so would psylocibin mushrooms or peyote buttons not be considered drugs?trailblazer said:George Bush
a drug is manufactured, not harvisted.
gimme a break and let us enjoy this thread.
I sincerely apologize to all my bretheren and followers of His Majesy, Field Marshall, General HIS. for my outburst yesterday by the non believer.
Ciaran said:There is no way to overdose from ingesting pot.
there are no do-overs in life. I said what I felt and feel no remorse.aggrorider said:taking back what I said
Dear Lord... do you believe this stuff? Are you actually convinced down to the core of your soul that weed does a lot of "good" in a large, humanitarian sense? This thread has "no room for negativity of any kind" - as in, a discussion? A discussion involves positive and negative opinions.trailblazer said:Like I previously stated this is an herb fest and there is no room for negativity of any kind. The idea of herb is chilling...not grilling.
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I think of the good it does and that is huge.
Personally the only reason I am agains this discussion taking place here in this thread is because most of us who post here already know the dangers of the drug and accept it. We have also heard these same arguments over and over. At this point I think most of us would rather chat about how nice our current stash is or about the great ride we had and the great chill session at the top than get into yet another stalemate discussion about the great evils of pot.binary visions said:Dear Lord... do you believe this stuff? Are you actually convinced down to the core of your soul that weed does a lot of "good" in a large, humanitarian sense? This thread has "no room for negativity of any kind" - as in, a discussion? A discussion involves positive and negative opinions.
I've smoked my fair share, though I don't anymore, but sometimes I can't believe that people actually convince themselves of some of this stuff...
As far as the definition of a drug goes, you're badly deluded if you don't think pot is a drug.
Wow. He's like the Jimmy Swaggart of pot smoking.trailblazer said:thank you bbbbbbbbbbbbbinary vision for your eye opening vision. now shut the hell up.<snip>
both of you cats need to stick to beer.
Good point. I guess I'd only say that, given that the arguments against pot have been said over and over again, people who come into the thread with arguements should be ignored instead of argued with. The arguments for pot remain the same as well.Ciaran said:Personally the only reason I am agains this discussion taking place here in this thread is because most of us who post here already know the dangers of the drug and accept it.
Okay, well, there are some benefits medicinally, in that it's a drug with some very positive effects on patients without a significant addictive quality. In that, I agree that it should be legalized for medical use. However, I don't buy that recreational use, which is what we're talking about here, is any great boon for mankind. I don't think it's any worse than alcohol by any stretch, but it's not like mankind has improved with the advent of alcohol.Edit: Pot has the *potential* to do good things in society/for humanity. It's current status prevents us from reaping those benefits.
That and hypocracy.binary visions said:Note that I'm not even saying it shouldn't be legalized, just that the only good reasons that I can see for legalizing it are that it's no worse than alcohol and could be a great source of tax income for the government.
Now you are speaking my language.boostindoubles said:The alternative is a supremely grown organic bud that has seen a slow dry and at least a month or more longer glass jar cure. The slow dry and cure allow the chlorophyll to break down into sugars enhancing flavor/ odor. The only problem is you basically have to either be lucky or have the ins with a grower to be able to aquire this sort of ganja.
trailblazer said:TN...that is dope.
ya if you smoke biker pot or pot that is full of nutrients/chem/fertalizer and has not been finalized with a flushing process then you will gag.
like a fine wine or a hand crafted cuban...that is my choice and the rest is shi*
and
moderation
to re-cap......i do not ingest alcohol of any kind. I do not do drugs.
No halucinagens or other chems.
and i am opinionated as hell.