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Brian HCM#1

Brian HCM#1

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Nick said:
At least you can admit to genocide taking place, that's a start.
But it's like you forget the last, oh I don't know, 50+ years of history in the region.
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I'm not denying innocent lives being lost, however Hamas needs to be eradicated. So the innocent Palestinians can take over and capture the Hamas terrorists and hand them over to Israel, that's one solution to end the war. Israel is not going to give up that land. Remember, this little book was written a few thousand years ago mentioning the Israelites/Jews when it was their land.
 
SkaredShtles

SkaredShtles

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Pesqueeb said:
Remember when Howard Dean made a funny noise or when Dan Quayle misspelled "potato" and they had their campaigns sunk?

Pepperidge farms remembers.
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"Meanwhile, Vance said at a rally Monday that he had “heard about” though not “seen” Hinchcliffe’s joke, but that he was “so over” people taking offense easily."

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Jm_

Jm_

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Brian HCM#1 said:
Israel is not going to give up that land. Remember, this little book was written a few thousand years ago mentioning the Israelites/Jews when it was their land.
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1. That's mythology/religion and doesn't hold shit.
2. Great Britain enabled/encouraged the settling of Jews in Palestine post-WWI under the European imperialism, this is when they started to take the land away from the Palestinians and the wholesale abuse of human rights started. At the same time, Europe as a whole claimed that the ME was going to get "self governing" powers. While they said this, what they did was completely the opposite for Palestine, as they displaced the Palestinians and encouraged the settlement of GB controlled Jews.
3. After a certain amount of time, no, you don't get to just go back and kick out the inhabitants that have just as much, or more claim to the land. I would argue that since they were already there, they have more claim than a fairy-tale book. We aren't saying that the native americans can go and squat in Brain's house and kick him off because "it was theirs first". And it's not just about taking the land, it's about all the human rights abuses, including mass murder and genocide, on the side of Israel, through this process.
 
rideit

rideit

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Brian HCM#1 said:
I'm not denying innocent lives being lost, however Hamas needs to be eradicated. So the innocent Palestinians can take over and capture the Hamas terrorists and hand them over to Israel, that's one solution to end the war. Israel is not going to give up that land. Remember, this little book was written a few thousand years ago mentioning the Israelites/Jews when it was their land.
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As you know, Brian, that ”little book” is maybe 95% fiction.
 
Pesqueeb

Pesqueeb

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Pesqueeb said:
Well, yes. In retrospect support of Dean is a little embarrassing.

But to be fair, at the time of the Dean Scream it was hardly evident that he was a complete shit bag.
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Man, my mistake! I've totally conflated Dean and John Edwards. It's Edwards who almost pulled the full Gingrich and cheated on his cancer suffering wife.
 
Brian HCM#1

Brian HCM#1

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rideit said:
As you know, Brian, that ”little book” is maybe 95% fiction.
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100%, however it is the homeland of the Jews. That’s the point trying to make. Fact or fiction, the premise of that book involved the Jews & Israel in which is fact, as that was their holly land. The Jews didn’t originate in Europe, it was Israel and they were given their land back in the late 40’s.
 
rideit

rideit

Bob the Builder
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You don’t have to explain to me, my wife is Jewish, my child is Jewish, and I went through enough training with a Rabbi to convert. However, I’m an atheist, and said as much, luckily the very reform rebbe said “eh, good enough for me!”!
I understand the history and issues far better than most goy boy toys…
The issue is that the land was ‘given back to them’ by governments that didn’t own it to begin with. Yes, it was a practical solution to give the diaspora a homeland in order to reduce anti-Semitic tensions in (mostly) Europe, but they never counted on Palestinian blowback.
And here we are.
 
Changleen

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Brian HCM#1 said:
Want to stop the genocide in Gaza? Hamas surrenders and releases all the hostages. It's not rocket science, it's that simple. The fact that they wont surrender and hide amongst the innocent prolongs the war and continues the genocide. Remember, Hamas invaded Israel 10/7/23 and murdered 1200 innocent people, many at a concert, so I assume you condone that? If Hamas never invaded Israel, this discussion would not be happening.
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Fuck off, dickhead.
 
Toshi

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