Still working through this but this comment around 18:30 - 19:10 (extending through to 20:00)
POTUS Election '24...you heard it here first!
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It’s gonna be fat, loud, and dumb.
Feature, not a bug.
Mandatory connection to TruTok.
Liberal social media commentary will have public transit access revoked.
It will be a LibLok
With a ‘social score’ like china.
Hopefully I live long enough to watch the different varieties of Jesus followers turn on each other for not being the right kind of Jesus followers and try to make the government enforce the true faith.
Brian,I am still waiting for you to reply. I see that you went into a F5 Hurricane. However,that has nothing todo with my question to you. Perhaps you could find the time?
Avy
It's been nice having Biden as president in regard to the fact that he hasn't felt the need to do dumb rallies constantly throughout his presidency or be on the news every....single....day.
a good short thread
38% of the adult US population has a college degree. If that’s your target audience then you’re starting at a disadvantage unless you assume those without a degree respect the college degree holders. Factor in a number of recent graduates with student debt who don’t see a tremendous job opportunities which allow them to earn a living and pay the debt and you’ve definitely lost some voters who soured on the American dream of getting a degree as the key to a comfortable future.
Emos how it works.
A short study in "feelings vs all available evidence" with a cross over of "surely the leopards won't eat my face".
apnews.com
Trump’s gains with Latinos could reshape American politics. Democrats are struggling to respond
From Pennsylvania to Florida to Texas, areas with high numbers of Hispanics often had little in common on Election Day other than backing Republican Donald Trump over Democrat Kamala Harris for president.
apnews.com
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So a significant portion of Hispanic/Latino voters were swayed largely by the left’s association with and support of trans people.
Hispanic/Latino population in the US is about 19% and trans people are under 2%. It’s a bold statement that the self expression of small percentage of the population was influential enough that being affiliated with them could tank a political party’s chances. This is a group that is on the receiving end of violence in the US.
Kevin Marino Cabrera, a Miami-Dade County commissioner who was state director for Trump’s 2020 campaign, said Hispanics rejected the “woke ideology.” Trump has made his opposition to transgender rights central to his campaign.
“To be clear, Hispanic voters are not buying what Democrats are selling,” Cabrera said.
The same was true in South Texas, where Hispanics are largely of Mexican descent.
Hispanic/Latino population in the US is about 19% and trans people are under 2%. It’s a bold statement that the self expression of small percentage of the population was influential enough that being affiliated with them could tank a political party’s chances. This is a group that is on the receiving end of violence in the US.
A short study in "feelings vs all available evidence" with a cross over of "surely the leopards won't eat my face".
Trump’s gains with Latinos could reshape American politics. Democrats are struggling to respond
From Pennsylvania to Florida to Texas, areas with high numbers of Hispanics often had little in common on Election Day other than backing Republican Donald Trump over Democrat Kamala Harris for president.
Kevin Marino Cabrera, a Miami-Dade County commissioner who was state director for Trump’s 2020 campaign, said Hispanics rejected the “woke ideology.” Trump has made his opposition to transgender rights central to his campaign.
“To be clear, Hispanic voters are not buying what Democrats are selling,” Cabrera said.
The same was true in South Texas, where Hispanics are largely of Mexican descent.
I saw him live somewhere like, 20 years ago. It was mind-blowingly funny. But his delivery is also key.,.
Hispanic culture loves to treat women like meat. The machismo mindset is cultivated at a young age. Of course they love Trump.
Why Does No One Understand the Real Reason Trump Won?
It wasn’t the economy. It wasn’t inflation, or anything else. It was how people perceive those things, which points to one overpowering answer.
newrepublic.com
And
I blame the media | Press Watch
The American people were insufficiently alarmed and insufficiently informed.
presswatchers.org
machismo X capitalism X misogeny X angry at being poor X crazy X owning the libs X unironic/un self-aware christofascism = no hope for decent people
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Sure but I'm being serious - it's like a factor of 10 more intense.
When I started telling friends that my wife was moving away with the kids bit we were staying married - everyone had an opinion.
One opinion that I only heard from hispanic men was that I should get multiple girlfriends while my wife was out of town. 10 dudes all suggested that - 10 hispanic men. Nobody else even hinted that I should cheat on my wife.
Maybe I’ll Get Over This, But Right Now I Don’t Feel It
I haven’t watched or read any news (or should I say consumed any content) about the national election since Tuesday night. Not sure when I’ll get back to it, if ever. I’ve often f…
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What's in it for ME?!
I think blaming the media or thinking it was a marketing problem (as in the Dems didnt connect with voters) is a bit of denial and sticking the head in sand.Why Does No One Understand the Real Reason Trump Won?
It wasn’t the economy. It wasn’t inflation, or anything else. It was how people perceive those things, which points to one overpowering answer.
And
I blame the media | Press Watch
The American people were insufficiently alarmed and insufficiently informed.
Trump didnt just won. It was a landslide, all swing states, house and congress. The dems got like 10+ million less votes than last time, on a similar platform.
I think the US is fundamentally more conservative than we, RM, would like to believe. It was Kamala being black and female, it was abortion, it was inmigration, it was LGBT rights, etc.
Right wing media didnt create the voters, the voters created a demand for right wing media.
As with all these things, there is no one answer. There are a huge variety of factors that affect different people in different ways. I agree that way too many Americans are actually just racist misogynist idiot dickbags.
This is the answer. No amount of liberal navel gazing changes that, but I'm sure it will generate any number of advertising hits.
As a job stealing immigrant, who's not eligible to have voted for Kamala - I support that conclusion.
No amount of boiling it down will provide a simple accurate answer. There’s racism and misogyny. There’s ignorance and media illiteracy. There’s apathy. There’s the electoral college structure.
For a long time I’ve believed the left has an uphill battle because they represent a multifaceted inclusive position that becomes increasingly complicated as they try to provide an equitable voice for a tremendous variety of people. They are also inclusive of progressive voices moving from the known into the unknown. Conservatives can dig in and say they like how things are or were. They are the party for people who think the bible (fuck autocorrect for trying to capitalize it) should influence government. Their position of deregulation aligns with many voters’ image of freedom. The left wants to enact policies for the welfare of the people and that doesn’t comport the image of strength the way the image of rugged individualism does. Even if that individualism means a lesser quality of life for more people, it provides the hope that unfettered success is attainable. American is not a utilitarian place.
For a long time I’ve believed the left has an uphill battle because they represent a multifaceted inclusive position that becomes increasingly complicated as they try to provide an equitable voice for a tremendous variety of people. They are also inclusive of progressive voices moving from the known into the unknown. Conservatives can dig in and say they like how things are or were. They are the party for people who think the bible (fuck autocorrect for trying to capitalize it) should influence government. Their position of deregulation aligns with many voters’ image of freedom. The left wants to enact policies for the welfare of the people and that doesn’t comport the image of strength the way the image of rugged individualism does. Even if that individualism means a lesser quality of life for more people, it provides the hope that unfettered success is attainable. American is not a utilitarian place.
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Let’s not forget the things that America contains (I’d be curious how these things exist in other parts of the world).
Infomercials
MLM & pyramid schemes
New Age and Holistic medicine
Goop
V Shred
Plastic surgery and med spas
That one weird trick they use in Hollywood
Lottery tickets
Bitcoin
Pro wrestling
Stock car racing
Carolina Squat
Rolling coal
TruckNutz
Fantasy football
March madness
Living off the grid
Punisher stickers
Lonely single women in your area
Getting tattooed by a friend in your bedroom
The idea that fast food work is for high school kids even though burger shops are open during school hours
Infomercials
MLM & pyramid schemes
New Age and Holistic medicine
Goop
V Shred
Plastic surgery and med spas
That one weird trick they use in Hollywood
Lottery tickets
Bitcoin
Pro wrestling
Stock car racing
Carolina Squat
Rolling coal
TruckNutz
Fantasy football
March madness
Living off the grid
Punisher stickers
Lonely single women in your area
Getting tattooed by a friend in your bedroom
The idea that fast food work is for high school kids even though burger shops are open during school hours
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This is really interesting.
Infomercials. Yep on daytime tv
MLM & pyramid schemes, Illegal here
New Age and Holistic medicine Happens but not much of it.
Goop. Wat???
V Shred Wat???
Plastic surgery and med spas Yep, not a huge amount though
That one weird trick they use in Hollywood Wat???
Lottery tickets Yep Lotto is pretty big here.
Bitcoin, Yep
Pro wrestling very very rare
Stock car racing Yep, but a super minor sport
Carolina Squat Wat???
Rolling coal Nope, and also illegal to operate a vehicle that emits excessive amounts of smoke.
TruckNutz Never seen any.
Fantasy football Uhhh probably??
March madness Wat???
Living off the grid Yep and getting more common.
Punisher stickers Super rare
Lonely single women in your area Oh if only!.... Wait are you talking about internet spam? running ad blocker and haven't noticed it.
Getting tattooed by a friend in your bedroom I've only seen this on ridemonkey.... Prison tat's you def see though.
The idea that fast food work is for high school kids even though burger shops are open during school hours Can't say I've noticed this attitude, but I don't doubt it exists.
MLM & pyramid schemes, Illegal here
New Age and Holistic medicine Happens but not much of it.
Goop. Wat???
V Shred Wat???
Plastic surgery and med spas Yep, not a huge amount though
That one weird trick they use in Hollywood Wat???
Lottery tickets Yep Lotto is pretty big here.
Bitcoin, Yep
Pro wrestling very very rare
Stock car racing Yep, but a super minor sport
Carolina Squat Wat???
Rolling coal Nope, and also illegal to operate a vehicle that emits excessive amounts of smoke.
TruckNutz Never seen any.
Fantasy football Uhhh probably??
March madness Wat???
Living off the grid Yep and getting more common.
Punisher stickers Super rare
Lonely single women in your area Oh if only!.... Wait are you talking about internet spam? running ad blocker and haven't noticed it.
Getting tattooed by a friend in your bedroom I've only seen this on ridemonkey.... Prison tat's you def see though.
The idea that fast food work is for high school kids even though burger shops are open during school hours Can't say I've noticed this attitude, but I don't doubt it exists.
Assuming that’s a real post by a real person…
tldr summary.
The rest of us did not vote because we simply do not care about society or its trajectory.
Not surprising that a group that feels disconnected feels disconnected. A rising tide might lift all boats but that is of little comfort if you’re not in a boat and just treading to keep from drowning.
End of the day, Trump won the electoral & the popular vote. Pretty much equates to over half the voters didn't like where this country was headed. The democratic party was going too far left for America and need to get back to the center. Anyways its the left that wants to mandate all electric cars & appliances. In California alone in 2030 they are no longer allowing gas burring furnaces and water heaters, they want all EV cars too. The cost of electricity here in CA is outrageous and the cost of adding solar is outrageous. We don't have the power grid to support all the electricity especially during the summer with the rolling blackouts and are being told when we can and can't use our power. Now that to me is authoritarian pushed by the democratic agenda. We will tell you what you can & can't have. So yes, voted for TRUMP!
You missed the wagon train to Boise and Montana. It's not too late though. How can you stand to hate the place you live so much?