lol..says the eater of dogsWell, hamburgers taste better than dead kids, at least the way I cook em.
lol..says the eater of dogsWell, hamburgers taste better than dead kids, at least the way I cook em.
Indeed.There are plenty of people who feel that harvesting living, breathing animals for food is ignorant and selfish. The fact that you are willing to call BMXman ignorant and selfish for his opinion on vaccinations, without even knowing him, says a lot more about you than it says about him.
We are animals and exhibit the same natural behaviors as other omnivores do. There is nothing wrong about behaving as we are biological made like other animals do.There are plenty of people who feel that harvesting living, breathing animals for food is ignorant and selfish. The fact that you are willing to call BMXman ignorant and selfish for his opinion on vaccinations, without even knowing him, says a lot more about you than it says about him.
I suppose the circular evolution of this topic would be...Diseases don't care what your beliefs are and mutation and outbreaks are scientific fact.
If parents let a child die from diabetes cuz they were praying and are arrested for it, should vaccinations be mandated?
...and AFAIK there is no vaccination for diabetes it there?...D
It would be more like idiots who think they should not be forced use use safety equipment (seatbelts/helmets/etc) only a potentially far greater cost to society than medical services/legal/trail closures/etc.I suppose the circular evolution of this topic would be...
If parents let a child die from diabetes cuz they were praying and are arrested for it, should vaccinations be mandated?
It's a matter of simple medical intervention.
And it doesn't matter if they knew what the medical issue was cuz not taking your kid to the doctor to find out is the same thing as knowing the specifics and doing nothing.
Maybe we should force the amish to use air conditioning since cleaner air will lessen the chance of asthma attacks in their kids?It would be more like idiots who think they should not be forced use use safety equipment (seatbelts/helmets/etc) only a potentially far greater cost to society than medical services/legal/trail closures/etc.
You are acting like by not vaccinating his kids, he is going to singlehandedly bring about the downfall of civilization. I happen to agree with him that it's none of your f*cking business, and there are way bigger problems in the world.We are animals and exhibit the same natural behaviors as other omnivores do. There is nothing wrong about behaving as we are biological made like other animals do.
Diseases don't care what your beliefs are and mutation and outbreaks are scientific fact.
I'm sure that ranks right up there with clean water and vaccinationsMaybe we should force the amish to use air conditioning since cleaner air will lessen the chance of asthma attacks in their kids?
exactly everyone must sacrifice their own principals....screw freedom!...DMaybe we should force the Amish to use air conditioning since cleaner air will lessen the chance of asthma attacks in their kids?
FAIL, diet is determined by biology - it can't be wrong and takes generations to change. Go and try make your cat change from a carnivore to a herbivore and he'll die. Humans succeeded evolutionary because they were intelligent extremely adaptable omnivores.Plus, animals murder and eat each other in regularly in broad daylight. Lots of animals take a dump or piss wherever they happen to be standing when the urge hits them. Plenty of animals screw whatever female is closest to them, whenever and wherever the desire arises. Are you saying just because animals do it, it's OK for humans to do it too? Humans are civilized beings, and your argument holds no water. FAIL
I am not a cat. I changed from carnivore to herbivore and I didn't die.FAIL, diet is determined by biology - it can't be wrong and takes generations to change. Go and try make your cat change from a carnivore to a herbivore and he'll die.
You'd die if you ate nothing but meat. You weren't a carnivore.I am not a cat. I changed from carnivore to herbivore and I didn't die.
Have you ever looked at the ingredients of cat food?You'd die if you ate nothing but meat. You weren't a carnivore.
Except that too many people are having that kind of opinion and it's affecting everyone.You are acting like by not vaccinating his kids, he is going to singlehandedly bring about the downfall of civilization.
If you hear your breaks squealing for months and then the mechanic says you destroyed your rotors, don't ask to be charged the price of pads alone.hmm..not really true. this has been the basis for arguments in the court system before when it comes to religion...if the parents don't know what they're up against how can they be to blame?
Jesus...your hands must be stinky from constantly pulling sh!@t out of your ass...I volunteered with the SPCA for over 3 years in the cat behavioral unit....I came across literally hundreds of people who fed their cats an all veg diet and they were fine...that being said I feed my cats plenty of meatGo and try make your cat change from a carnivore to a herbivore and he'll die.
I don't agree with syadasti that not vaccinating is selfish and ignorant.You are acting like by not vaccinating his kids, he is going to singlehandedly bring about the downfall of civilization.
They would be missing required amino acid only naturally available in meat. Lack of it leads to a variety of health problems including death. They are carnivores, end of story. Cats kill and eat things both inside and outside of the home besides what you give them at feeding time.Jesus...your hands must be stinky from constantly pulling sh!@t out of your ass...I volunteered for the SPCA for over 3 years in the cat behavioral unit....I came across literally hundreds of people who fed their cats an all veg diet and they were fine...that being said I feed my cats plenty of meat
Agreed but they didn't know the severity of the situation..now like I said I don't think ignorance is an excuse...but I wonder how they're going to handle it in court since precedence has already been set.The point is, the parents knew something was wrong.
hey that's what I'm here forAnd the really funny thing about this whole thread is that I thought for sure I would get flamed for my religious posts.
Thanks for taking the flames for me BMXMan!
that post is narrow minded at best!I don't agree with syadasti that not vaccinating is selfish and ignorant.
BMXman, and others who don't vaccinate are either selfish or ignorant, not both.
One one hand they may not know the role that vaccines play, and the horrific outbreaks of disease that vaccines play a vital role in containing. Those people are ignorant.
If, on the other hand, you're aware of the above fact, and you're also aware that vaccines do have some side effects, you are in effect saying, "I'm going to let the other parents expose their children to risk, and I will accept the benefits of their risk without taking any myself." These people are quite obviously selfish.
What other options are there besides "ignorant" or "selfish"? Religious?that post is narrow minded at best!
I guaran-fvckin-tee that if you or I made a list of all the things we do that are ignorant and/or selfish, that list would contain at least several items that are far more ignorant and/or selfish than BMXman not vaccinating his kiddos.What other options are there besides "ignorant" or "selfish"? Religious?
Come on Opie we have been down this road...there are many people who don't even believe in contagion or disease...they have a different reality than you or I...would I call them ignorant or selfish? NO...they just have a different belief system than I do...and they have that right!What other options are there besides "ignorant" or "selfish"? Religious?
beyond hand-wringing, how has it affected you?Except that too many people are having that kind of opinion and it's affecting everyone.
I might be more ignorant -and- selfish over all than BMXMan, but I try to limit it to stuff that doesn't affect society the way that people assume "herd immunity" is effective.I guaran-fvckin-tee that if you or I made a list of all the things we do that are ignorant and/or selfish, that list would contain at least several items that are far more ignorant and/or selfish than BMXman not vaccinating his kiddos.
Hey, look over there. He's boning an elephant!I guaran-fvckin-tee that if you or I made a list of all the things we do that are ignorant and/or selfish, that list would contain at least several items that are far more ignorant and/or selfish than BMXman not vaccinating his kiddos.
I'm getting carpal tunnel sydrome by complaining on the internet!beyond hand-wringing, how has it affected you?
mission accomplishedHey, look over there. He's boning an elephant!
So they don't believe Polio exists?Come on Opie we have been down this road...there are many people who don't even believe in contagion or disease...they have a different reality than you or I...would I call them ignorant or selfish? NO...they just have a different belief system than I do...and they have that right!
If you think bacteria and viruses are made up beliefs then I agree with Silver, you are just ignorant.Come on Opie we have been down this road...there are many people who don't even believe in contagion or disease...they have a different reality than you or I...would I call them ignorant or selfish? NO...they just have a different belief system than I do...and they have that right!
Who are we to say if they're wrong or right?...I think it's pretty egotistical of us to assume they must all be quacks and our way or any way for that matter is the only right path for living....D
you would have to ask them...DSo they don't believe Polio exists?
What would happen if they saw a person with Polio?
And if you think a guy who died 2000 year ago after being stapled to a cross, suddenly rose from the dead, is now watching you from the sky... you're CRAZY!If you think bacteria and viruses are made up beliefs then I agree with Silver, you are just ignorant.
I'd hope they didnt hit me with that club after I made fun of their fancy little outfit and matching horse.So they don't believe Polio exists?
What would happen if they saw a person with Polio?