Selfish is human nature. Ignorant is usually relative and subjective. I'm going to go drink a beer. Humping this elephant is like throwing a hotdog down a hallway anyway.
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You've never been in an office when someone that should have obviously stayed home sick came in and got the rest of his office sick with some new strain their kids picked up at school?
if they talked like a robot i would be inclined to ask them about quantum physics
Seriously read a fvking book!...You act like this is the 1st time you've ever heard about this...I'm done responding to you...apparently if someone doesn't believe the same way you do they have to be wrong...you're bordering on narcissism...D
That's not funny.
Or giving a whale a tick tack
trypanophobes
a new strain? no. just the same old annoying cold/flu.
of course, we didn't de-feather chickens in a cubefarm
hmm I wonder if you can get vaccinated without the use of a needle?...D
silver knows this priest...
I had a childhood friend who was deathly afraid.
I purposely found moves that had scenes prominently with needles for us to watch.
Good times.
The ones I put in bold are redundant. I think we were fine with two categories...
you seem to have this rolling campaign of canceling out your otherwise reasonable posts.
i guess the world need bitchdiggers
I was thinking the same...
There is only ONE reality. People's perception of it is what's all over the map. If it's far enough off, for whatever reason, then they're ignorant. They have that right, but what good does it do anyone?
Experimental?
Silver is a one trick pony. If I ever get the chance to ride with him I am only going to talk about the religion of mountain bikes. I think even he can believe in the holy trinity of Ned, Tomac and Juli Furtado. And everytime he crashes I am going to look at him and say, "I prayed for that to happen".
Can you elaborate?
I shouldn't have to. You know what the word means and I think you understand how I am applying it in this context.
Edit: Trying something different based on research and information.
I have already explained how I feel about not seeing docs based on religion.
I feel about this the same way as I feel about parents that put their kids in private school, drive hummers, and put up giant fences around their houses. Fear and the desire to protect our children are two of our strongest instincts, and unfortunately that means many people will make selfish decisions. In a country founded on individual freedoms, we skew more towards individual rights than group rights.
Lame but we'll swing back towards group/public safety once anything becomes a big enough issue.
So in short, I'm going with selfish, because if it's ignorance it's willful.
Lame but we'll swing back towards group/public safety once anything becomes a big enough issue.
So in short, I'm going with selfish, because if it's ignorance it's willful.
If you won't vaccinate for immune system development once they are out, at least try it in the womb...
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13778-taking-probiotics-could-prevent-allergies.html?DCMP=ILC-hmts&nsref=news7_head_dn13778
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13778-taking-probiotics-could-prevent-allergies.html?DCMP=ILC-hmts&nsref=news7_head_dn13778
because you asked for it...but I'm sure you will find a way to discount it...D
For the first time in history, U.S. [and Canadian] children are sicker than the generation before them.
Theyre not just a little worse off, they are precipitously worse off physically, emotionally, educationally and developmentally. The statistics have been repeated so often, they are almost boring. Obesity affects nearly a fifth of children, triple the prevalence in 1980. Juvenile diabetes is up 104% since 1980. Autism, once regarded as having a purely genetic etiology, increased more than a thousandfold in less than a generation. The incidence of asthma is up nearly 75%. Life-threatening food allergies doubled in the past decade. The prevalence of allergies increased nearly sixfold. Almost one in 10 childrenbetween four and five million kidshave been diagnosed with attention-deficit disorder. Nutrient deficiencies, not seen for decades in U.S. children, are prevalent again, or still persisting. What happened? Many have argued that the increasingly aggressive vaccination schedule is partly to blame. In the 1980s, more vaccines were given earlier in infancy, as were more multivalent doses, most of which contained mercury . If true, by vaccinating so zealously, rather than making children healthier, as school districts, federal health programs, corporate health infrastructures, and pediatricians insist, we have traded mostly benign or treatable childhood illnesses for incurable, lifelong, extremely costly disability and disease. It means that current vaccine policy and practice create more morbidity and mortality than they prevent in U.S. [and Canadian] children.
Source: Why Do Pediatricians Deny The Obvious? By Judy Converse, MPH, RD, LD
Vaccines in Canada:
Today, Canadian infants may be injected with up to 8 vaccines at one time, starting at the age of two months. By age 6, a child can receive up to 41 doses of 11 vaccines with more new vaccines about to be added to the line-up. Injections are not adjusted according to the babys weighta 5lb infant will be injected with the same amount of vaccine as a 12lb infant.
Are vaccinations safe and effective?
Historical trends indicate vaccines have had little positive effect: Historical trends show that deaths caused by childhood illnesses had already declined as much as 98% before vaccine programs were ever initiated. Evidence indicates that an improved standard of living, particularly access to fresh foods, caused this drop in disease, not vaccines. Evidence also indicates that statistical tampering over the last sixty years has made vaccines appear more effective than they truly are.
Vaccines contain foreign animal proteins:
Vaccines are cultured in such tissues as monkey kidney cells, rabbit and dog brains, horse blood, fetal calf blood, chick embryos, and, yes,even human fetal lung tissue. Under normal circumstances, the body only encounters foreign animal proteins though the digestive tract; when injected directly into the blood stream, these proteins can wreak havoc on the body. Vaccines may contain animal viruses not intended: It is absolutely impossible to completely isolate one virus from others within the animal tissue used. As a result, vaccines pose the greatest risk of cross-species disease introduction; past vaccine batches have contained unwanted animal viruses. There is even evidence that the AIDS virus was spread from apes to humans through a contaminated oral polio vaccine given to over 300,000 Africans. Since then, other vaccine batches have accidentally included mysterious animal viruses, one of which is SV40, which many scientists link to non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma and certain brain tumours in the Baby Boomer generation.
Vaccines contain dangerous chemicals used as preservatives and adjuvants:
The chemicals added as preservatives and adjuvants (intended to
make them more powerful) to vaccines are dangerous; they include formaldehyde, aluminium phosphate, phenol (carbolic acid), alum, acetone, and, yes, some still do contain Thimerosal (a preservative comprising 50% ethyl mercury). Many of these chemicals are neurotoxic and lead to a myriad of other health issues; they have been linked to autism, Attention Deficit Disorder, and other developmental disorders. These toxins build up in the system over time. The medical community will tell you that “there is no conclusive evidence” linking vaccines with these disorders because they choose to reference scientifically flawed studies sponsored by the pharmaceutical companies themselves or refuse to undertake long term studies to compare the overall health outcome of fully vaccinated groups with unvaccinated ones. Common sense should dictate that injecting toxic chemicals into the bodies of neurologically immature babies is dangerous. (Note that the flu shot still does contain mercury.)
Historical trends indicate vaccines have had little positive effect: Historical trends show that deaths caused by childhood illnesses had already declined as much as 98% before vaccine programs were ever initiated. Evidence indicates that an improved standard of living, particularly access to fresh foods, caused this drop in disease, not vaccines. Evidence also indicates that statistical tampering over the last sixty years has made vaccines appear more effective than they truly are.
Vaccines contain foreign animal proteins:
Vaccines are cultured in such tissues as monkey kidney cells, rabbit and dog brains, horse blood, fetal calf blood, chick embryos, and, yes,even human fetal lung tissue. Under normal circumstances, the body only encounters foreign animal proteins though the digestive tract; when injected directly into the blood stream, these proteins can wreak havoc on the body. Vaccines may contain animal viruses not intended: It is absolutely impossible to completely isolate one virus from others within the animal tissue used. As a result, vaccines pose the greatest risk of cross-species disease introduction; past vaccine batches have contained unwanted animal viruses. There is even evidence that the AIDS virus was spread from apes to humans through a contaminated oral polio vaccine given to over 300,000 Africans. Since then, other vaccine batches have accidentally included mysterious animal viruses, one of which is SV40, which many scientists link to non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma and certain brain tumours in the Baby Boomer generation.
Vaccines contain dangerous chemicals used as preservatives and adjuvants:
The chemicals added as preservatives and adjuvants (intended to
make them more powerful) to vaccines are dangerous; they include formaldehyde, aluminium phosphate, phenol (carbolic acid), alum, acetone, and, yes, some still do contain Thimerosal (a preservative comprising 50% ethyl mercury). Many of these chemicals are neurotoxic and lead to a myriad of other health issues; they have been linked to autism, Attention Deficit Disorder, and other developmental disorders. These toxins build up in the system over time. The medical community will tell you that “there is no conclusive evidence” linking vaccines with these disorders because they choose to reference scientifically flawed studies sponsored by the pharmaceutical companies themselves or refuse to undertake long term studies to compare the overall health outcome of fully vaccinated groups with unvaccinated ones. Common sense should dictate that injecting toxic chemicals into the bodies of neurologically immature babies is dangerous. (Note that the flu shot still does contain mercury.)
Germs are not necessarily dangerous:
The vaccine theory is based upon the germ theory, which says that disease is caused by germs. The germ theory itself has always been in question. We encounter billions of germs everyday but
we do not get sick everyday. The terrain theory hypothesizes that viral infections are not caused by germs, but by toxic conditions in the body, which make it a favourable host for these organisms; that germs can have a symbiotic relationship with our bodies by feeding on and helping to eliminate toxins. So,the key to combating infectious disease is not to kill the germ but to make the body an unfavourable host: feed it healthy sources of energy and dont poison it
with toxins. Vaccinations introduce toxins into the body and may therefore actually cause illness.
See work by Claude Bernard or Antoine Bechamp.
Vaccines bypass the bodys normal lines of immune defence: There is a fundamental issue with injecting particles of infectious diseases directly into the bloodstream, thereby bypassing the immune systems first line of defencecalled the Th1 level of the immune systemin a surprise attack on the second line of defencecalled the Th2 levelthat is so distressing to the body it can cause anaphylactic shock. In nature, diseases are introduced into the body through the nose, mouth, skin and lungs, triggering a first line of defence that usually combats the illness before it ever reaches the bloodstream. Vaccines repeated back-door assaults on the Th2 level of the immune system make it hyper-sensitive and compel it to react inappropriately to other normally harmless substances like peanuts; the result is a generation of children with damaged
immune systems who suffer from food and environmental allergies, asthma and increasingly with life threatening anaphylactic disorders.
Vaccine injuries are underreported:
Although there is a government system in place for reporting vaccine injuries, the medical profession does not encourage such reporting and there are no repercussions for doctors who choose not to report incidents. Doctors, who naturally do not want to admit participating in a practice that injures a child, often choose to deny or disregard even the most obvious connection between a sudden health issue and vaccine administration. As a result, it is known that vaccine injuries are drastically underreported (it is believed fewer than 10% of vaccine reactions are actually reported) so it is impossible to know just how many children are injured each year. Some researchers have linked Sudden Infant Death Syndrome to vaccines, and estimate that the number of vaccine-related deaths per year greatly outnumbers
deaths resulting from the childhood illnesses themselves. Your doctor will likely tell you that the benefits of vaccines outweigh the risks; do not be lulled by this statement into assuming that someone elses child is at risk while your child will only benefit. Just ask the tens of thousands of parents living with the reality of a vaccine damaged child.
The vaccine theory is based upon the germ theory, which says that disease is caused by germs. The germ theory itself has always been in question. We encounter billions of germs everyday but
we do not get sick everyday. The terrain theory hypothesizes that viral infections are not caused by germs, but by toxic conditions in the body, which make it a favourable host for these organisms; that germs can have a symbiotic relationship with our bodies by feeding on and helping to eliminate toxins. So,the key to combating infectious disease is not to kill the germ but to make the body an unfavourable host: feed it healthy sources of energy and dont poison it
with toxins. Vaccinations introduce toxins into the body and may therefore actually cause illness.
See work by Claude Bernard or Antoine Bechamp.
Vaccines bypass the bodys normal lines of immune defence: There is a fundamental issue with injecting particles of infectious diseases directly into the bloodstream, thereby bypassing the immune systems first line of defencecalled the Th1 level of the immune systemin a surprise attack on the second line of defencecalled the Th2 levelthat is so distressing to the body it can cause anaphylactic shock. In nature, diseases are introduced into the body through the nose, mouth, skin and lungs, triggering a first line of defence that usually combats the illness before it ever reaches the bloodstream. Vaccines repeated back-door assaults on the Th2 level of the immune system make it hyper-sensitive and compel it to react inappropriately to other normally harmless substances like peanuts; the result is a generation of children with damaged
immune systems who suffer from food and environmental allergies, asthma and increasingly with life threatening anaphylactic disorders.
Vaccine injuries are underreported:
Although there is a government system in place for reporting vaccine injuries, the medical profession does not encourage such reporting and there are no repercussions for doctors who choose not to report incidents. Doctors, who naturally do not want to admit participating in a practice that injures a child, often choose to deny or disregard even the most obvious connection between a sudden health issue and vaccine administration. As a result, it is known that vaccine injuries are drastically underreported (it is believed fewer than 10% of vaccine reactions are actually reported) so it is impossible to know just how many children are injured each year. Some researchers have linked Sudden Infant Death Syndrome to vaccines, and estimate that the number of vaccine-related deaths per year greatly outnumbers
deaths resulting from the childhood illnesses themselves. Your doctor will likely tell you that the benefits of vaccines outweigh the risks; do not be lulled by this statement into assuming that someone elses child is at risk while your child will only benefit. Just ask the tens of thousands of parents living with the reality of a vaccine damaged child.
Childhood diseases are not necessarily bad:
Vaccination assumes that childhood diseases such
as measles, mumps, and chicken pox are dangerous and bad. Conversely, others believe that childhood disease naturally builds the immune system and that, in healthy children, these diseases are not dangerous. In fact, contracting them in childhood provides natural lifetime immunity to them and protects the body against more dangerous related adult diseases. For instance, shingles occurs when adults who have previously had chickenpox are no longer
exposed to boosting doses of chickenpox in the community.
Immunization assumes it is okay to sacrifice a few for the good of many: Mass immunization is based upon a herd mentality in two ways: first, it implies that every person is the same and
therefore every person should be medicated in the same way (indeed that everyone, healthy or not, should be medicated); second, it necessitates the belief that it is acceptable to sacrifice a
few for the good of the majority. (The few parents of children injured or killed by vaccines likely beg to differ.)
Vaccine science assumes nature is flawed:
The belief in the effectiveness of vaccines is based
upon the idea that nature is fundamentally flawed and only science can save itthat, without help, the human immune system is incapable of protecting the body. Conversely, others believe that scientific interventions themselves are playing havoc with our health and that vaccines and other contaminants like air pollution, pesticides, flame retardant chemicals, fluorinated drinking water, genetically modified, overly processed foods, etc, etc, are poisoning our bodies. These toxins compromise our health and make us susceptible to illness.
Natural immunity is achieved through healthy living:
Bottom line: There is evidence that vaccines are neither safe nor effective and that immunization against relatively harmless childhood diseases may be responsible for the dramatic increase in autoimmune diseases as well as chronic illnesses like cancer. Again, these basic principles apply: feed the body with healthy sources of energy and dont poison it with toxins and it will protect and heal itselfwithout the need for pharmaceutical intervention. The few studies undertaken have shown that unvaccinated children are healthier than vaccinated children.
Vaccination assumes that childhood diseases such
as measles, mumps, and chicken pox are dangerous and bad. Conversely, others believe that childhood disease naturally builds the immune system and that, in healthy children, these diseases are not dangerous. In fact, contracting them in childhood provides natural lifetime immunity to them and protects the body against more dangerous related adult diseases. For instance, shingles occurs when adults who have previously had chickenpox are no longer
exposed to boosting doses of chickenpox in the community.
Immunization assumes it is okay to sacrifice a few for the good of many: Mass immunization is based upon a herd mentality in two ways: first, it implies that every person is the same and
therefore every person should be medicated in the same way (indeed that everyone, healthy or not, should be medicated); second, it necessitates the belief that it is acceptable to sacrifice a
few for the good of the majority. (The few parents of children injured or killed by vaccines likely beg to differ.)
Vaccine science assumes nature is flawed:
The belief in the effectiveness of vaccines is based
upon the idea that nature is fundamentally flawed and only science can save itthat, without help, the human immune system is incapable of protecting the body. Conversely, others believe that scientific interventions themselves are playing havoc with our health and that vaccines and other contaminants like air pollution, pesticides, flame retardant chemicals, fluorinated drinking water, genetically modified, overly processed foods, etc, etc, are poisoning our bodies. These toxins compromise our health and make us susceptible to illness.
Natural immunity is achieved through healthy living:
Bottom line: There is evidence that vaccines are neither safe nor effective and that immunization against relatively harmless childhood diseases may be responsible for the dramatic increase in autoimmune diseases as well as chronic illnesses like cancer. Again, these basic principles apply: feed the body with healthy sources of energy and dont poison it with toxins and it will protect and heal itselfwithout the need for pharmaceutical intervention. The few studies undertaken have shown that unvaccinated children are healthier than vaccinated children.
Various easily debunked claims like mercury dangers. Your body eliminates the mercury from vaccinations faster than it does from seafood (see various sources like The Lancet (peer reviewed), NYT, etc)
Little to no references written by people with no authority rather than peer reviewed professionals, no validity. WHO vaccination article's had 69 references from respected sources. There is all sorts of junk science like your article all over the Internet. You won't find any of it in any peer reviewed science journal as they don't publish science fiction.
How come you aren't protecting your kids from the dangers of photography - it steals their souls!
Little to no references written by people with no authority rather than peer reviewed professionals, no validity. WHO vaccination article's had 69 references from respected sources. There is all sorts of junk science like your article all over the Internet. You won't find any of it in any peer reviewed science journal as they don't publish science fiction.
How come you aren't protecting your kids from the dangers of photography - it steals their souls!
after having scanned most of donnie's posts, i believe they are factual, but misleading, claims. i think there's an invisible hand, right in front of our face. most notably, as the population density increases, so does exposure. not exactly a "eureka" moment, but something overlooked or undervalued.
again, i'm not anti-vaccination; i have my flag plunged deep in the middle ground here.
again, i'm not anti-vaccination; i have my flag plunged deep in the middle ground here.
Was this written while Louis Pasteur was still alive?
Jesus Christ, next you're going to tell us that you found a source on the internet that shows that flies actually are spontaneously generated by rotting meat...
I wonder what his views are on the earth - flat?
When people leave their car on with the garage door shut or their furnace malfunctions does bad karma kill them
I gotta be honest, I only scanned the rest of the articles as I stopped reading with serious intent right there.
Linking obesity to vaccines?
Seriously?
How about kids getting less sleep than they need? Eating fastfood as a primary source of intake? Video games & TV?
Sorry, but what you posted has no scientific validity of any kind. I appreciate the fact that people are calling for better, unbiased studies... and I agree with that, but to start out with such garbage only under-minded their argument.
Is Smallpox bad for you? Should we skip the vaccination?
Illness is caused by bad vibes man. If people just loved each other and the world around us we'd be so totally healthy.
my rather limited understanding of viruses is they mutate constantly, and it's quite rare than any one mutation survives to a threatening state.
did anyone else's BS alarm go off with this quote from the NYT article:
so, 1 case every other day for our entire population of 300,000,000 constitutes "an outbreak"?
didn't similar alarmism cause a rush to war upon a misperceived threat of WMDs pointed at us from iraq?
temperance, people.
ADHD and some forms of autism are ridiculously overdiagnosed these days, that's why you see those particular increases. Things that were previously considered symptoms of what used to referred to as 'being a kid', or having a personality that didn't fit into some increasingly narrow idea of what 'normal' should be, now constitute a "disease", and those kids need to be drugged into submission by the millions to make things easier on their teachers (not to mention making lots of money for the drug companies.)
I went through a bunch of bull**** about this ADD/Aspergers scam with my stepson. Those people (teachers, 'doctor', administrators, etc) were determined to cure him of being a frigging boy. Wow, a kid that fidgets when he's stuck sitting around in school all day and doesn't jump at the chance to do homework? No ****? Sounds like there's something wrong with him...let's pump him full of ****ing meth for a few years, that should help.
I went through a bunch of bull**** about this ADD/Aspergers scam with my stepson. Those people (teachers, 'doctor', administrators, etc) were determined to cure him of being a frigging boy. Wow, a kid that fidgets when he's stuck sitting around in school all day and doesn't jump at the chance to do homework? No ****? Sounds like there's something wrong with him...let's pump him full of ****ing meth for a few years, that should help.
I just don't know what to say here.
If you don't mind epidemics that kill of 75% of a population, leaving 25% that were lucky (not healthy, but lucky) enough to build an immunity, and then pass it onto their kids, then sure, I guess the above is true.
and here you thought premium membership inoculated you from having to read that.
obla-di, obla-da, life goes on, brah