[seismic]

Today, on Yahoo news I read that prisoner number 1000 has been executed in the USA. It made me sad. Now, many pro-death penalty people may say that it is justice, fair and "what if it was your son or daughter that was killed by someone". Well, - to build a system on revenge and emotions is not "justice" in my mind. As USA is often trying to influence other countries in how to live and what kind of governments to have - I can only say that it is disappointing that the US government still believes that punishment is the solution of national problems...... anyway, - this could be a very long discussion and I actually just wanted to say that IMO death penalty should not be an option, - but I know that is not an option with a US president asking God what to do.

 

[N8 v2.0]

Now there's a body count I can feel good about!

 

[Ciaran]

Now there's a body count I can feel good about!

Be careful about applauding death.

 

[Angus]

I am not suprised that there have been 1000 executions since 1977, what is suprising to me that it took this long.

 

[valve bouncer]

Pffft, Dubya has killed 2000 Americans in a tenth of that time.

 

[LordOpie]

*ding* leveled!

 

[Gex]

Pffft, Dubya has killed 2000 Americans in a tenth of that time.

Buuuurrrnnnnnn

 

[sanjuro]

Today, on Yahoo news I read that prisoner number 1000 has been executed in the USA. It made me sad. Now, many pro-death penalty people may say that it is justice, fair and "what if it was your son or daughter that was killed by someone". Well, - to build a system on revenge and emotions is not "justice" in my mind. As USA is often trying to influence other countries in how to live and what kind of governments to have - I can only say that it is disappointing that the US government still believes that punishment is the solution of national problems...... anyway, - this could be a very long discussion and I actually just wanted to say that IMO death penalty should not be an option, - but I know that is not an option with a US president asking God what to do.

I'm against the death penalty, but I don't want to hear some foreigner from a country which is 94% white with one of the highest standard of living complain about the American Justice system.

We have problems you have no concept about, and without "punishment", we would have murderers and drug dealers roaming free instead of being in jail.

When Denmark starts taking in Eastern Europeans and Africans, then I want hear from you about crime and punishment.

 

[Slugman]

I can only say that it is disappointing that the US government still believes that punishment is the solution of national problems......

What do you do with your criminals, give them a gift?

Actually that is a great idea - we'll give our criminals a plane ticket to Denmark...

 

[valve bouncer]

I'm against the death penalty, but I don't want to hear some foreigner from a country which is 94% white with one of the highest standard of living complain about the American Justice system.

We have problems you have no concept about, and without "punishment", we would have murderers and drug dealers roaming free instead of being in jail.

When Denmark starts taking in Eastern Europeans and Africans, then I want hear from you about crime and punishment.

Sorry buddy that arguement doesn't fly. Australia hasn't seen the need to kill its citizens and we are as diverse as you are. Find another excuse.

 

[Ciaran]

Sorry buddy that arguement doesn't fly. Australia hasn't seen the need to kill its citizens and we are as diverse as you are. Find another excuse.

Buuuuuurrrrnnnnn #2

Dang VB, you're on fire today.

 

[kidwoo]

When Denmark starts taking in Eastern Europeans and Africans, then I want hear from you about crime and punishment.

Slavs and darkies are the cause of crime?

 

[valve bouncer]

Buuuuuurrrrnnnnn #2

Dang VB, you're on fire today.

Back on the sauce back on fire. What can I say.
I usually have a lot of time for Sanjuro's posts but the inference that ethnicity results in a lower crime rate (94% white) got me.

 

[kidwoo]

Back on the sauce back on fire. What can I say.
I usually have a lot of time for Sanjuro's posts but the inference that ethnicity results in a lower crime rate (94% white) got me.

He forgot the essential element of education standards between the two countries. That and he must think bill bennett has a point with aborting blackies to reduce crime.

 

[valve bouncer]

He forgot the essential element of education standards between the two countries. That and he must think bill bennett has a point with aborting blackies to reduce crime.

I won't go that far mate and I'll let him answer before I go further as I suspect that's not what he meant. But the ball's in his court.

 

[LordOpie]

Slavs and darkies are the cause of crime?

I wasn't gonna touch that one.

 

[seismic]

Well, just because our society is not as multi cultural as the USA dosent mean that I am unable to comprehend the problems. I am just saying that to increase the number of harsh punishments dosent solve the problems and to have the death penalty dosent help much either I think.......

 

[ohio]

Find another excuse.

You're morally bankrupt pinko commy poptarts, and God will smite you for not smiting your criminals sufficiently?

 

[LordOpie]

You're morally bankrupt pinko commy poptarts, and God will smite you for not smiting your criminals sufficiently?

I'm confused, I thought they were all criminals down there?

 

[Ciaran]

Slavs and darkies are the cause of crime?

Dang, I better get to work. I think I have some walls I need to go graffitti, being a brown guy and all. Odelay mang!

 

[sanjuro]

Sorry buddy that arguement doesn't fly. Australia hasn't seen the need to kill its citizens and we are as diverse as you are. Find another excuse.

They are very diverse country. I admire them for taking in refugee English and Irish citizens, escaping the oppression of Great Britain. Or the rich exiles from Hong Kong since they were turned away from Canada and America. And they are very tolerant of different cultures, like New Zealand.

And look at the great job White Australia has done with the aborigines. Soon, there won't be any left.

BTW: Caucasian 92%, Asian 7%, aboriginal and other 1%. Very diverse.

 

[sanjuro]

And did I not point out I am against the death penalty?

 

[valve bouncer]

You're morally bankrupt pinko commy poptarts, and God will smite you for not smiting your criminals sufficiently?

Smiting.......now that's a word.
Smiterage- the end result of smiting
Smitagely- effective smiting
Smiteriffic- the god of smiting caning your sorry ass
Smitageous- everyone is sh*tting blue lights

 

[sanjuro]

Slavs and darkies are the cause of crime?

Oh FRANCE my FRANCE god FRANCE, I'm FRANCE racist FRANCE.

I am not saying Africans are the source of the problem. What I am saying is that many European countries have a difficult time with new immigrants. While America is not perfect by any means, we have a very diverse population and we keep it together.

 

[sanjuro]

Well, just because our society is not as multi cultural as the USA dosent mean that I am unable to comprehend the problems. I am just saying that to increase the number of harsh punishments dosent solve the problems and to have the death penalty dosent help much either I think.......

Keep in mind many non-violent drug offenders serve lengthy sentences, which I would agree needs to be reduced. However, while I am against the death penalty, I am for life sentences.

Does anyone remember Robert Chambers, the NY Preppie murderer? I was in high school when he was convicted of murder. He got out last year, after I believe a 15 year sentence. While he might not kill again (he was arrested for another drug offense), I doubt that is any comfort to Jennifer Levin's parents who are still alive.

 

[kidwoo]

Oh FRANCE my FRANCE god FRANCE, I'm FRANCE racist FRANCE.

I am not saying Africans are the source of the problem. What I am saying is that many European countries have a difficult time with new immigrants. While America is not perfect by any means, we have a very diverse population and we keep it together.

Dude.....go back and read your statement that I quoted and you tell me what it sounds like. I can't read your obscured intent on the france........in mean interweb.

 

[kidwoo]

Let me ask you a simple question: have you used the word African in some other reference besides talking about someone from Africa?

Do bees count?

Is that why you are uncomfortable with my accurate accessment of the minority group involved with the recent Paris riots?

Show me your accurate assessment of the minority group involved with the recent paris riots in your following statement.

I'm against the death penalty, but I don't want to hear some foreigner from a country which is 94% white with one of the highest standard of living complain about the American Justice system.

We have problems you have no concept about, and without "punishment", we would have murderers and drug dealers roaming free instead of being in jail.

When Denmark starts taking in Eastern Europeans and Africans, then I want hear from you about crime and punishment..

Did you pick gray for your font color somewhere cuz I don't see it.

So I have two responses for you.

A) Good backpedal

B) State your case next time without expecting it to be made just because you're thinking it.


Pick one.

 

[sanjuro]

After living in New Orleans for 5 years, I have a very frank view about race and racism. Many people think I am racist because of it.

However, I like to point out how I lived the hearts of New York City, New Orleans, Hartford, and now San Francisco. I am initimately familar with race and racism, and I like to think despite my frank language I am not racist.

Actually, I think political correctiness continues racism. By using terms and avoiding offensive topics, no one learns anything about race.

 

[kidwoo]

Oh what the hell?

You deleted your post?

I preserved it for you.

 

[sanjuro]

Do bees count?
Show me your accurate assessment of the minority group involved with the recent paris riots in your following statement.

http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/column/index.php?ntid=62892&ntpid=6

Rioting has concentrated in areas around major cities, home to France's underclass - Arab and African immigrants and their French-born children.

 

[sanjuro]

Oh what the hell?

You deleted your post?

I preserved it for you.

Then I am going to call you out then.

So what the racial breakdown of Lake Tahoe? What experiences there taught about the sting of racism?

Explain to me why saying more African and Eastern European immigration to Denmark is racist?

 

[valve bouncer]

They are very diverse country. I admire them for taking in refugee English and Irish citizens, escaping the oppression of Great Britain. Or the rich exiles from Hong Kong since they were turned away from Canada and America. And they are very tolerant of different cultures, like New Zealand.

And look at the great job White Australia has done with the aborigines. Soon, there won't be any left.

BTW: Caucasian 92%, Asian 7%, aboriginal and other 1%. Very diverse.

Your figures are a bit off mate.
Sorry Sanjuro, I don't quite get this arguement. Are you saying that diversity is a cause of crime?

 

[LordOpie]

I'd guess that economic diversity is more of a factor.

 

[sanjuro]

Your figures are a bit off mate.
Sorry Sanjuro, I don't quite get this arguement. Are you saying that diversity is a cause of crime?

Damn CIA World Factbook. Wouldn't be the first time CIA is wrong.

Yes diversity, racial and economic, does cause friction in every society. America is especially bad because we have not resolved our problems.

BTW, I filtered that answer thru my PC translator.

 

[kidwoo]

http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/column/index.php?ntid=62892&ntpid=6

Rioting has concentrated in areas around major cities, home to France's underclass - Arab and African immigrants and their French-born children.

I'm not even going to click on that link because I know the same things you do about france. My point was that this has NOTHING to do with your post that I responded to because you mentioned france in none of it.

Call me out? Please.........

Tahoe is the honkiest place on earth outside of Switzerland. We have some mexicans around but it's damn white and you and I both know that..........But that still doesn't mean you didn't say something stupid.

I didn't create the demographic of Tahoe, I sure as hell didn't grow up here, nor do I really have any fondness for the whitey dork brigade of overweight women with real estate hair driving hummers. Know something else? I grew up in the south. Jacksonville Florida and Atlanta Georgia were my homes .......I just moved here 5 years ago. Does that validate me in your eyes to point out the 1) stupidity or 2) unsubstantiated statement that you made?

Let me say it again. Your ties to france are nowhere in your original statement which when standing alone is worthy of criticism........regardless of how many "some of my best friends are black" equivalents you can come up with.

Explain to me why saying more African and Eastern European immigration to Denmark is racist?

That's not what you said.

This is what you said.

When Denmark starts taking in Eastern Europeans and Africans, then I want hear from you about crime and punishment..

....implying the presence of such immigrants into this country gives you an authority over siesmic about such judgements.

Look man......just admit you made a weak case for what you said having anything to do with france (if that really was your intent) and let it be.

 

[ohio]

I'd guess that economic diversity is more of a factor.

Economic diversity is usually called disparity.

 

[LordOpie]

Economic diversity is usually called disparity.

You so analytical.

 

[sanjuro]

I'm saying is this:

Any country with little diversity and no immigration, like Denmark, will not have a good perspective on tough issues which do come with diversity and immigration, like crime and punishment.

France is having growing pains with their immigrant population as example by the Paris Riots. I am saying that as a matter of fact, not as some sort of sly way of saying get rid of the minorities. I think France is a great place for immigration, and there is a place for minoriities there.

I deleted that post because I don't like to make this stuff personal. And I apologize about questioning your own perspective about racism. I do not like to be called a racist, and I find questioning the accuser is a good way to make them take a step back. So I apologize again.

 

[kidwoo]

It's all good.

Just say what you mean.

I actually found this pretty damn funny vvv

So what the racial breakdown of Lake Tahoe? What experiences there taught about the sting of racism?

 

[valve bouncer]

I'm saying is this:

Any country with little diversity and no immigration, like Denmark, will not have a good perspective on tough issues which do come with diversity and immigration, like crime and punishment.

France is having growing pains with their immigrant population as example by the Paris Riots. I am saying that as a matter of fact, not as some sort of sly way of saying get rid of the minorities. I think France is a great place for immigration, and there is a place for minoriities there.

I deleted that post because I don't like to make this stuff personal. And I apologize about questioning your own perspective about racism. I do not like to be called a racist, and I find questioning the accuser is a good way to make them take a step back. So I apologize again.

Did I win? I dunno I've had 26 bourbons tonight, are you talking to me? You're not a racist Sanjuro, you're a goodun. That slut Fluff, he's still tweekin' his unit cos' DT says he's alright but I haven't gotenough luv from me old girl. THAT HURT DT. YOU CUNT. You guys are alright, I luvs ya all.:nuts: :love: