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Problem I cannot figure out

oldfart

Turbo Monkey
Jul 5, 2001
1,206
24
North Van
On my Santa Cruz Superlight. I get this loud "crack" sound when I get on the bike. Its a single cack which is never repeated during a ride. Only when I first get on and stand on the pedals. Before I leave the house I push the fork down and the rear end to check that I have air in the shocks, no sound. The bb is a ES-70 xt/lx splined unit which feels smooth when its in my hands and in the frame. There is no play in the thing. The hubs are Hugi 240 disc and feel fine, smooth and no play. The freewheel mechanism looks good and is well lubricated with slick honey. New XT cassette and SRAM PC-59 chain and ENVY rings tourqued to spec. New Fox Talas Fork. The Thomson layback post has been disassembled and cleaned. All fasteners on the bike are lubed with anti seize. 959 pedals seem good and grease was recently changed. King headset just sits there and works and works and works without apparent complaint. The swingarm is out by a bit, maybe 3 or 4 mm at the seat tube but the bike rides dead straight. The shop is aware of the swingarm issue and told me to ride it and if I get any problem it will be dealt with. I have an very good relationship with the shop. I have run out of ideas. I am somewhat suspicious of that swingarm. But if that was off too much why doesn't the sound repeat during a ride? The bushing is not wearing out at a mad rate. I've had a Heckler before this bike which had the same geometry but heavier tubes. The bushings on that bike wore at a similar rate. I found the rear shock bushing became loose about every 4 to 6 months. What else can I check?

perplexed in North Vancouver.
 

myke

Chimp
Nov 16, 2001
27
0
MA
The sound described as a crack makes me think BB and cranks. Could be worth pulling the BB and cleaning everything and then installing it with anti-sieze or teflon tape, if you didn't already. Tef tape works wonders sometimes. See if you can borrow some pedals also to rule that out. Had a pair of square tapers get kinda rounded and do that....but you said splined. A Thomson post did that to me for awhile. You cleaned it so prolly not. I had to coat the surface the lower clamp rides on in grease to get mine to stop cracking and popping.

Thats all I can think of right now.
 

oldfart

Turbo Monkey
Jul 5, 2001
1,206
24
North Van
I thought the same and the bb has been out, inspected and everything well coated with anti seize. If it were the bb, it should make noise constantly though. I only get one single crack sound when I first get on the bike. Its not the post because the noise will occur before I even get seated. Its almost as though the bushings in the swingarm or shock settle in overnight and when I really compress the suspension, the missalignment, gets torqued and things move , once. Overnight with no weight the bushings settle back slowly. Its all torqued up with a quality torque wrench to SC specs. I was hoping some one else had this issue and could tell me for sure.
 
Can you get it to repeat by, say, placing a bag of sand on the seat, or on the bars?

If you can do that, you might be able to team up with a friend and localize it by the old put-tip-of-big-screwdriver-on-suspected location-and-ear-on-screwdriver-handle trick.

J
 

SpasticJack

Monkey
Feb 25, 2002
344
0
Seat-seatpost interface? Sometimes when seatpost clamps get a little dry they will make noise.

It's an air shock right? My other guess would be stiction in the shock that is broken free as soon as you sit on it and then sets up after the bike has been put away.

Isolating the crank/bb possibility is easy, just sit on it w/o touching the cranks/pedals.

Good Luck
 

oldfart

Turbo Monkey
Jul 5, 2001
1,206
24
North Van
I think I have it dialed. Jennifer on the VN forum had a similar problem with a Superlight copy. Its the main pivot I think. When I first put body weight on the bike, the pivot connection shifts slightly and makes the sound. Overnight it moves back slowly under the force of the shock and gravity. I took the swing arm off and cleaned the connection up, coated mating surfaces with anti seize, retorqued to spec and this morning there was no noise. Time will tell if this fixes it.
 

spincrazy

I love to climb
Jul 19, 2001
1,529
0
Brooklyn
Glad you got it sorted. I was worried there for a minute. 'If oldfart doesn't know, WHAT'S TO BECOME OF US?' :D