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slimshady

¡Mira, una ardilla!
30% off tires.

Is there a translation table for their casing and whatever names?

In a nutshell:
T9=grippiest compound, moar or less Maxxis' Maxxgrip.
T7=intermediate compound, good for rear tires IMHO. Something like Maxxis' Maxxterra.
T5=XC rated only IMHO. Too plasticky for any serious riding. Maxxis' Maxxspeed equivalent moar or less .

As for casings, you have Grid Gravity (easy to understand), Grid Trail (something like EXO+), and Grid, which translates to EXO.

Just one not so unimportant note: Specialized makes the whole tire from the same rubber compound, so it doesn't just affect grip, but also the tire's rebound and general behavior.

Here is a good read about them:

 

6thElement

Schrodinger's Immigrant
Jul 29, 2008
17,414
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Anyone after a cheap hardtail full build, Nukeproof Scout Large for $320 or better specced medium for $640, Vitus medium for $340

 

canadmos

Cake Tease
May 29, 2011
22,209
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Canaderp
Anyone after a cheap hardtail full build, Nukeproof Scout Large for $320 or better specced medium for $640, Vitus medium for $340

OUT OF STOCK GOD DAMMIT
 

slyfink

Turbo Monkey
Sep 16, 2008
9,833
5,666
Ottawa, Canada
In a nutshell:
T9=grippiest compound, moar or less Maxxis' Maxxgrip.
T7=intermediate compound, good for rear tires IMHO. Something like Maxxis' Maxxterra.
T5=XC rated only IMHO. Too plasticky for any serious riding. Maxxis' Maxxspeed equivalent moar or less .

As for casings, you have Grid Gravity (easy to understand), Grid Trail (something like EXO+), and Grid, which translates to EXO.

Just one not so unimportant note: Specialized makes the whole tire from the same rubber compound, so it doesn't just affect grip, but also the tire's rebound and general behavior.

Here is a good read about them:

fwiw, the 2024 Purgatory has gotten a facelift. It's now much closer to the Butcher, with shorter knobs I think.

I'm running a T7 Grid Trail Butcher on my back wheel (27.5) with a rimpact pro insert. It's on my 2016 Patrol (155mm travel), and I weigh 220. I think it's a really good trail tire. good grip in all conditions, brakes well, and clears mud well. I've been surprised at grip on off-camber wet roots. Where it doesn't work so well is on berms. anytime I push into a berm, the tire folds. I could of course add more air, but that would compromise grip. if riding bike parky stuff more often, I'd be looking at grid gravity casing.

I also put a new Purgatory on my sons Cannondale Habit (29r, also with a rimpact pro). When I rode it, I was impressed with the level of grip in off-camber sections, and on wet roots.

I was able to get these new, in-store for $80 here in Canada. Maxxis are going for $130 to $150 new in stores, so I disagree with @sethimus , I do not feel ripped off in the slightest....
 

Happymtb.fr

Turbo Monkey
Feb 9, 2016
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SWE
Bike discount has some cheap mt5 caliper with hose on sale for your next shigura build:

For 40 euro you even get a free lever designed by Magura best development team! What a time to be alive :pilot:
 

MrBaker87

Monkey
Mar 30, 2014
167
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neverlandranch
Bike discount has some cheap mt5 caliper with hose on sale for your next shigura build:

For 40 euro you even get a free lever designed by Magura best development team! What a time to be alive :pilot:
Thanks! I actually roached my rear brake at Big Sky resort last weekend and am in need of a new hose and caliper. Old MT5 had been going strong since 2015 but it met an untimely end when I decided to bash on it with some rocks.
 

Leafy

Monkey
Sep 13, 2019
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Bike discount has some cheap mt5 caliper with hose on sale for your next shigura build:

For 40 euro you even get a free lever designed by Magura best development team! What a time to be alive :pilot:
Shipping not available to USA.
 

konifere

Monkey
Dec 20, 2021
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no idea if these are anygood, but $25 traction
The "Plus" are the shit hard compound, which would only be suitable for desert riding in my opinion. Their Gen 3 in MOPO compound is awesome though, still one of my all-time favorite tires.
 

konifere

Monkey
Dec 20, 2021
611
754
Merlin Cycles has TRP R1C 203mm x 2.3mm center lock rotors on sale for $16.57!

I bought 10 of the 6-bolt version when they were selling them 12$cdn last year. And 100$cdn for a front+rear set of TRP Slate EVO brakes, which I haven't used yet. Merlin have some good deals sometimes, it's worth checkin from time to time what they have on sale.
 

Sandwich

Pig my fish!
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May 23, 2002
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borcester rhymes

I don’t know if anybody needs gravel/road cranks, but these are stupid cheap For what they are. I think I paid more for a used set. I’m tempted to get a set for my XC rig to shed weight, but I really really don’t need to do that…
 
Feb 21, 2020
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I don’t know if anybody needs gravel/road cranks, but these are stupid cheap For what they are. I think I paid more for a used set. I’m tempted to get a set for my XC rig to shed weight, but I really really don’t need to do that…
Are they crappy RF carbon cranks with different graphics? :D
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
20,386
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AK

I don’t know if anybody needs gravel/road cranks, but these are stupid cheap For what they are. I think I paid more for a used set. I’m tempted to get a set for my XC rig to shed weight, but I really really don’t need to do that…
What could possibly go wrong?
 

HardtailHack

used an iron once
Jan 20, 2009
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7,331
I like that a lot…the MV120 ticks a lot of boxes for me. I wonder if you could get the leverage rate working well enough with a small volume air shock….
Why not short shock a 160?
My frame is 110mm and is maybe a touch less regressive than the MV120, to me it seemed okay with a Mara Pro, but would have been better if I stuck with the plan to get an Ohlins TTX.

I have ridden my dual sus twice this year, hardtails FTMFW! Have you heard the word about the Norco Torrent? I don't want to sound preachy, just kidding, it's the best bike ever, get one.
 

Leafy

Monkey
Sep 13, 2019
647
412
fwiw, the 2024 Purgatory has gotten a facelift. It's now much closer to the Butcher, with shorter knobs I think.

I'm running a T7 Grid Trail Butcher on my back wheel (27.5) with a rimpact pro insert. It's on my 2016 Patrol (155mm travel), and I weigh 220. I think it's a really good trail tire. good grip in all conditions, brakes well, and clears mud well. I've been surprised at grip on off-camber wet roots. Where it doesn't work so well is on berms. anytime I push into a berm, the tire folds. I could of course add more air, but that would compromise grip. if riding bike parky stuff more often, I'd be looking at grid gravity casing.

I also put a new Purgatory on my sons Cannondale Habit (29r, also with a rimpact pro). When I rode it, I was impressed with the level of grip in off-camber sections, and on wet roots.

I was able to get these new, in-store for $80 here in Canada. Maxxis are going for $130 to $150 new in stores, so I disagree with @sethimus , I do not feel ripped off in the slightest....
Which purgatory on you sons bike? T7 grid isn’t on sale but t9 grid is. How draggy is t9? Is butcher front purgatory rear the normal combo for being able to do loam to hard pack on a trail bike? Or is the ground control a better rear? I’m replacing dhr/dissector in exo max terra that are starting to loose knobs and all I want is more climbing traction on the rear I liked the wtb trail boss light high grip on the rear but it died to an air compressor accident.
 

Leafy

Monkey
Sep 13, 2019
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I like to run the same compound front and rear, since the compound has the biggest effect on making that traction on rocks and wet roots happen.
 

slyfink

Turbo Monkey
Sep 16, 2008
9,833
5,666
Ottawa, Canada
Which purgatory on you sons bike? T7 grid isn’t on sale but t9 grid is. How draggy is t9? Is butcher front purgatory rear the normal combo for being able to do loam to hard pack on a trail bike? Or is the ground control a better rear? I’m replacing dhr/dissector in exo max terra that are starting to loose knobs and all I want is more climbing traction on the rear I liked the wtb trail boss light high grip on the rear but it died to an air compressor accident.
T7. I checked the site last week, and the sale was gone... Seems like they do them periodically? or maybe they were making room in the warehouse for 2025 stuff?

I don't have experience with T9, so can't help. I run a Butcher rear, paired to a 2.5 DHF. I really like that combo. I'm always surprised at how much grip the Butcher has on the back. Better than a DHR2, and the cornering knobs are 90% of DHR2 also. The Purg feels pretty similar. It might roll a bit better, lacks that "drifty channel" and because the knobs are shorter will probably wear out faster. But overall a great hard condition tire. Does pretty well in eastern mixed condition wet stuff too...
 

Leafy

Monkey
Sep 13, 2019
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Well I ordered butcher/eliminator both in grid t9. Still about $90 shipped. Mainly because I couldn’t find a single seller that had both the wicked will and nobby nic in soft with the lightest casing the come in in stock so it was going to be like $150 to get that combo with shipping.
 
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Feb 21, 2020
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For the 'muricans, $399 for Ohlins TTX1's-
Is that place legit?

Bomber CR for $170.

Fox DHX for $230, that's way less than dealer cost from Fox. I believe last one I got was over tree fitty.
 

mykel

closer to Periwinkle
Apr 19, 2013
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sw ontario canada
Is that place legit?

Bomber CR for $170.

Fox DHX for $230, that's way less than dealer cost from Fox. I believe last one I got was over tree fitty.
A quick google indicates chatter history going back 5 years or so. Legit business by the looks of it, but how trustworthy is a question. Opinions are all over the place; ratings seem to float at 3.7-4.1 stars. Sounds like if you get your stuff and you are happy, yer good. But cancel an order, return something or have other issues and you may have a problem.

Not sure how I would jump. I guess it comes down to how bad do you want it and how broke are you?

Take screenshots
Check T&Cs (copy?)
Order with CC
If issues, dispute the order with screenshots if needed?

:blink:
 

HardtailHack

used an iron once
Jan 20, 2009
7,915
7,331
Is that place legit?

Bomber CR for $170.

Fox DHX for $230, that's way less than dealer cost from Fox. I believe last one I got was over tree fitty.
They are in Australia, here they are the direct to customer mob for Marin and polygon.
I've ordered from them here a few times with no issue, one order was a bike.

Looks like they are dumping oem stock.