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PSA: X-Fusion RV1 - $559.99

mrgto

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If I hadn't just bought a Boxxer for the wife's DH bike, I'd be all over that.
 

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Kanye West

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That's the older one with the twin tube/semi-open bath damper. Their RoughCut damper for it is equivalent to a Fit or Charger damper (bladder w/high and low comp adjusters).
 

djjohnr

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I haven't seen the RV1 shipped with the Roughcut yet, seems like it's still aftermarket for now, but it's likely coming. Pricing on the new damper for the 34mm forks is $200, I'd expect something in the same ballpark for the RV1.
 
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troy

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Like @Kanye West said, it is an open bath version. Roughcut dampers for that fork were available from January 2017 and they are a huge improvement (not saying that the open bath damper sucks, as ppl actually liked it).
 

djjohnr

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Like @Kanye West said, it is an open bath version. Roughcut dampers for that fork were available from January 2017 and they are a huge improvement (not saying that the open bath damper sucks, as ppl actually liked it).
Have you experienced aeration issues with their open bath damper?
 
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troy

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Yeah, it is not open bath per say, more like a separate open bath style cartridge. Still, not a pressurized cart like the Roughcut, FIT or Charger dampers. @djjohnr not me, but a friend of mine had some issues with loosing rebound damping on his metric (IIRC) fork with this damper. Apart from that situation, I haven't heard anything bad about those forks.

EDIT:
I think it was an Vengeance fork.
 
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mrgto

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I've got a 2013 Vengeance that I pulled out of the parts bin to use on my Chromag. Ive done minimal maintenance and the rebound still makes a very marked difference in the forks behavior.

The plus side of these forks are that Avalanche does tuning for this damper for $199
 

djjohnr

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I know a few guys on Vengances with no issues, however the damper upgrades from X-Fusion tend to be reasonably priced if you do run into problems.
 

norbar

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I know a few guys on Vengances with no issues, however the damper upgrades from X-Fusion tend to be reasonably priced if you do run into problems.
No strange noises coming from where the stanctions go into the crown? I remember they had that issue. Structurally no problem but annoying
 

djjohnr

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No strange noises coming from where the stanctions go into the crown? I remember they had that issue. Structurally no problem but annoying
I meant with the damper; yeah, CSU creaking happened for some people (not within my crew though). Supposedly their newer crowns fixed it. Fox had/has similar issues as well, although I've never run into it with my forks.
 
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norbar

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I meant with the damper; yeah, CSU creaking happened for some people (not within my crew though). Supposedly their newer crowns fixed it. Fox had/has similar issues as well, although I've never run into it with my forks.
Isn't it the same factory? Or do they produce for someone else? I know a friend a mine ordered quite a few for test bikes and they all had that issue though I liked how they worked.
 

mrgto

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The only issue I've ever had was that the damper was loud when you had things dial up. Changing the fluid out seem to help but I think it is just how the thing works.

For the money it's probably been one of the best forks I've owned. I think I got it for less than $500 new. It was trouble free and maintaining the fork was dead easy. I'll ride it till it either dies or I can't get parts for it.
 

blindboxx2334

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i cant get the multi quote to save my god damn life. But my vengeance is not an open bath fork? from what I under stand its a 'sealed twin tube' design. If its open bath, can someone please explain? when I did the seals on my fork there was no oil coming out of the damper. I don't know/understand half the shit you guys talk about when it comes to this stuff.

with that said, why in the hell are these deals on DH forks, but I cant find shit for deals for a 34/35mm 29er fork. is all the flext 32mm crap.
 

StiHacka

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The only issue I've ever had was that the damper was loud when you had things dial up. Changing the fluid out seem to help but I think it is just how the thing works.

For the money it's probably been one of the best forks I've owned. I think I got it for less than $500 new. It was trouble free and maintaining the fork was dead easy. I'll ride it till it either dies or I can't get parts for it.
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I'd still be riding mine 1) if it didn't have that terrible creak/click that was driving me nuts 2) if it was a little lighter. Other than that, no issues - was very reliable, dead simple to service, oil change in the cartridge was trivial. The rebound was noisy because inverted at the top of the stanchion.
 

blindboxx2334

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The only issue I've ever had was that the damper was loud when you had things dial up. Changing the fluid out seem to help but I think it is just how the thing works.

For the money it's probably been one of the best forks I've owned. I think I got it for less than $500 new. It was trouble free and maintaining the fork was dead easy. I'll ride it till it either dies or I can't get parts for it.
my room mate and I both managed to buy good condition air HLR vengeances for 200 shipped to our door. they are fantastic forks. hell, he even got his in a straight 1-1/8. I will never get rid of mine, overkill for my DJ, but I like the stiffness.
 

tacubaya

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i cant get the multi quote to save my god damn life. But my vengeance is not an open bath fork? from what I under stand its a 'sealed twin tube' design. If its open bath, can someone please explain? when I did the seals on my fork there was no oil coming out of the damper. I don't know/understand half the shit you guys talk about when it comes to this stuff.

with that said, why in the hell are these deals on DH forks, but I cant find shit for deals for a 34/35mm 29er fork. is all the flext 32mm crap.
Its an inception damper. The damper is enclosed in another tube so the damper fluid is independent to the lower leg lubrication fluid, but it is still an open bath in the sense that the damper fluid is being expelled and sucked into the damper continuously.
 

Sandwich

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there's a guy on pinkbike that has one, but he has some pretty neat toys. I think it was on the front of his ti honzo. Never seen one elsewhere.
 

blindboxx2334

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Its an inception damper. The damper is enclosed in another tube so the damper fluid is independent to the lower leg lubrication fluid, but it is still an open bath in the sense that the damper fluid is being expelled and sucked into the damper continuously.
I see now. thank you.
 

jonKranked

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the revel? when I called early last year to order seals for my vengeance, I asked about it; I was told they were built to order and are the in the neighborhood of 2k.
i remember looking within the last few months and it wasn't even listed on their website. that was a fork i was always curious about.
 

dump

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its on their website now. i was wondering if it got stuck in development hell.
@ZoRo might chime in, but if i remember what he told me correctly, it was too expensive to produce and they decided to not do it in large numbers. i.e. you have to know someone.
 

mrgto

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Or the dentists of the world should buy them up so production costs will go down.

I would love to try one. Inverted forks work well on every motorcycle I've owned.
 

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No strange noises coming from where the stanctions go into the crown? I remember they had that issue. Structurally no problem but annoying
I have a Vengeance and it has been a great fork. Buttery smooth, good mid-support and needed minimal maintenance.
 

norbar

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I have a Vengeance and it has been a great fork. Buttery smooth, good mid-support and needed minimal maintenance.
It is a great fork, the noise is a non issue performance wise. I have tested a few bikes with it and it was surprisingly good.