Quick rear der. question....
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what is the largest cog you've got on yr cassette? if it's a 32T or 34T, you might not be able to reach it w/ a med cage. give SRAM a ring.
It would be shorter.stosh said:
Good question. I've always wondered about the difference myself.
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It would shift more crisply because the chain is shorter. If you use your big ring much, you could have grief. It should be ok, though. Why do you want medium??
it mostly depends on the hanger angle and the size casset you are sporting
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Did you say you tore the other one off? I missed that. I don't know how much different it will be, but you don't want a short cage.stosh said:
the big ring has nothing to do w/ the cage length of the der. take a look @ road bikes. big front rings, small cage der. why? because the cassette is smaller range (max gear is about 22T or so typically).loco said:
take my advice and ask SRAM what rear cog is the largest a med cage can handle.
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Max on a road cassette is smaller than a mountain cassette. The chain length has a lot to do with cage length. If the top pulley is in the same place, explain to me how that affects how many teeth you have in the back? It has to do with total inches, and last time I checked, the big ring adds quite a lot, where the cassette does not.narlus said:
*you can use a short case with a 12-34 and a big ring, but you had better be damned careful.
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yes...stosh said:
The total capacity is the number you need to worry about. The difference in teeth between your big, big and small, small combos. The mech needs to be able to take in that much slack of the chain will be too tight in the big big or to slack in small small.
The largest sprocket they can handle usually has plenty of leeway, you can usually get away with a road mech on a 32t cassette and mtb mechs should fit any mtb cassette.
The largest sprocket they can handle usually has plenty of leeway, you can usually get away with a road mech on a 32t cassette and mtb mechs should fit any mtb cassette.
I've seen them live more than any other bad.
I've been to about 4 shows of theirs.
I actually managed to piss them off when they released their compilation 2 CD set. They were signing them and they made some comment about me rushing to get the CD's signed and I said yeah I need to get it home and on EBAY and they were f'ing pissed.
I of course would never have put it on ebay... but they didn't find the humor in it.
I've been to about 4 shows of theirs.
I actually managed to piss them off when they released their compilation 2 CD set. They were signing them and they made some comment about me rushing to get the CD's signed and I said yeah I need to get it home and on EBAY and they were f'ing pissed.
I of course would never have put it on ebay... but they didn't find the humor in it.
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See Narlus, 2 of us think this. :eviltonguD_D said:
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I have never seen them. I've seen Dwight Yoakum a lot.stosh said:I've seen them live more than any other bad.
I've been to about 4 shows of theirs.
I actually managed to piss them off when they released their compilation 2 CD set. They were signing them and they made some comment about me rushing to get the CD's signed and I said yeah I need to get it home and on EBAY and they were f'ing pissed.
I of course would never have put it on ebay... but they didn't find the humor in it.
All last year I ran a Mtn Casset with a Road Del, on my DH and XC bikes...
As long as you dont go Big/Big with the Road Del. you should be all set.
As long as you dont go Big/Big with the Road Del. you should be all set.
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87 for sure. Maybe 86.stosh said:
so then explain SRAM's criteria which stosh posted.loco said:See Narlus, 2 of us think this. :eviltongu
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Having taken the X0/X9 off of my bike, I will continue to think SRAM doesn't know what they are doing. I wouldn't take their word for it.narlus said:so then explain SRAM's criteria which stosh posted.
*edit - they likely think most people are too stupid to get the chain right.
bwahhhhhhhhhhloco said:Having taken the X0/X9 off of my bike, I will continue to think SRAM doesn't know what they are doing. I wouldn't take their word for it.
*edit - they likely think most people are too stupid to get the chain right.
I'm pretty happy with my SRAM stuff... aside from my recent exploits I haven't had any problems.
You should be ok with a mid-cage.
I run a mid-cage XTR on my Yeti with a 24/34/46t chain rings and a 12-32 8 spd cassette. I have my chain-length on that bike set so that it will cross-chain in the big ring but let me know it's not happy about it which tells me to shift to the middle ring. This allows relatively quick shifts and keeps the cage out of harm's way in most situations.
Conversly, on my Indy Fab hardtail (same rings, but an 11-30 8spd) I run a rare XTR road-cage derailleur. The cage is so short that it would not pull enough chain in some cassette gears in the granny, so I had to shorten the chain. However, this only allows use of the 6 smaller cogs in the big ring. If I accidentally x-chain, it'll lock up tight. When I used to race this bike, it wasn't a big deal. This bike shifts like nothing else, which was the main reason I put it on, but a side effect is the derailleur kept tight to the frame most of the time.
Btw, when doing rides at Thorpe, I carry a spare rear derailleur in my pack along with an extra cable and housing.
I run a mid-cage XTR on my Yeti with a 24/34/46t chain rings and a 12-32 8 spd cassette. I have my chain-length on that bike set so that it will cross-chain in the big ring but let me know it's not happy about it which tells me to shift to the middle ring. This allows relatively quick shifts and keeps the cage out of harm's way in most situations.
Conversly, on my Indy Fab hardtail (same rings, but an 11-30 8spd) I run a rare XTR road-cage derailleur. The cage is so short that it would not pull enough chain in some cassette gears in the granny, so I had to shorten the chain. However, this only allows use of the 6 smaller cogs in the big ring. If I accidentally x-chain, it'll lock up tight. When I used to race this bike, it wasn't a big deal. This bike shifts like nothing else, which was the main reason I put it on, but a side effect is the derailleur kept tight to the frame most of the time.
Btw, when doing rides at Thorpe, I carry a spare rear derailleur in my pack along with an extra cable and housing.
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I just decided, get a short cage, because it will be lighter.
Ok, since you are running a 22-32-44 front, you have to be very, very carefull with your shifting if you're running a shortcage. That's if you can get it to work properly in the first place at all.
A shorty will only take so much slack from your chain, and since you are running 3 rings in the front you will have a lot of slack to take up.
I run a shortcage Dura-ace mech on 2 of my mtbs, one is an 11-32, one an 11-34. Both work awesome, but only because I run a single ring in the front. Going through the 9 cogs in the rear is not too much slack to handle...
You will have to set yours up while in the front middle ring, and be carefull with your shifting while in the top and bottom front rings, so that you don't have either too much slack in your chain, or to much, depending on the gear.
I definately reccomend going with at least a medium cage for your bike, since you are running the three front rings.
A shorty will only take so much slack from your chain, and since you are running 3 rings in the front you will have a lot of slack to take up.
I run a shortcage Dura-ace mech on 2 of my mtbs, one is an 11-32, one an 11-34. Both work awesome, but only because I run a single ring in the front. Going through the 9 cogs in the rear is not too much slack to handle...
You will have to set yours up while in the front middle ring, and be carefull with your shifting while in the top and bottom front rings, so that you don't have either too much slack in your chain, or to much, depending on the gear.
I definately reccomend going with at least a medium cage for your bike, since you are running the three front rings.
I think that must be it as well. (besides the cog limitations of the derailleurs)firetoole said:
I've got a small cage XTR on my 03 AC and it can't reach the smallest 3 cogs because it hits the frame.
So by your logic I should be able to run a short cage derailleur since I'm running 11-32 and 22-32-bash? Is that true? If so cool! I know what I'm running next.zahgurim said:
We're barely to the 2nd page.the Inbred said:
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You must be cooler than Dustin and I.Wumpus said:We're barely to the 2nd page.
i'm on page one, you dolts.
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You are cooler on pages, but you still don't know crap about cage lengths and tooth counts.narlus said:
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Cool, must have added the 40 post per page when RM upgraded.
(For y'all behind the times. Go to user cp -- edit options and change post per page so you can be like the cool kids.)
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I don't like to scroll.