E-13's fit up perfectly on the R9. With a 113 BB use no spacers, with a 118 use 1 black spacer. With the low bb and lots of sag, I don't think an MRP would last longer than 2 runs on my R9.
Just Paypal'ed my friend for his E13. It'll be here Friday so I can finally finish off the bike. So frustrating building it all the way up then having to wait 4 more perfect sunny days because something doesn't clear by 2 f'ing mm. Lame.
I'll post porn when she's done. Thanks for the post DW.
The gamut is a perfect setup. no grinding or spacers necessary. The last e-13 took 2 hours to align the damn thing. The gamut was 5-10 minutes. and cleaning out mud took 30 sec as compared to 15 minutes with the e-13. Other than those specific complaints the e-13 never dropped a chain and worked well. The Gamut is simpler and just as secure while being lighter and eaiser to install,
Craig from Avy says 1/3 exactly, no more no less, and claims thats the way he has set up all R9 Avy's and has had nobody send one back. Frank The Man says 40-50%. I've heard of guys running 60%, which baffles me. It's somewhat progressive and I can nearly bottom it out just bouncing on it running around 1/3 sag in the lowest leverage ratio with not much compression except the bottom out control on the temporary DHX. WTF mate?
Can anyone recommend a good setup for the DHX and leverage ratio position? 175 lb rider, and a lot of f'ing rocks around, and at the moment I have 400 lb and 450 lb springs at my disposal.
From the guys I have talked to (Ford, and SuspectDevice) they really like the Cane Creek Double Barrels on theirs. And 1/3 sag on that bike wouldn't be enough. You need about 45-50 percent sag.
We don't have many riders on the DHX, but I beleive the 400 would be the appropriate weight for a 175 pounder. Are you sure you don't have the leverage positions mixed up? The top position is the lowest, and there is the equivalent of a 100 pound change in springrate from top to bottom. Have you actually ridden the bike on DH trails yet, or is this just parking-lot testing? It sounds about right to me.
Craig at Avy is a stubborn fella, and FTW certainly runs more than 30% sag when he's on the Avy, Pretty much the entire team runs 50% sag or more, and we are all either on Cane Creeks, Roco's or Progressives
The gamut is a perfect setup. no grinding or spacers necessary. The last e-13 took 2 hours to align the damn thing. The gamut was 5-10 minutes. and cleaning out mud took 30 sec as compared to 15 minutes with the e-13. Other than those specific complaints the e-13 never dropped a chain and worked well. The Gamut is simpler and just as secure while being lighter and eaiser to install,
OK, I am really confused by this. How exactly is the gamut "simpler" or easier to install than the e.thirteen. I have both guides here in front of me. The gamut design bolts the plastic parts to the aluminum back plate the same way as the e.thirteen pioneered in 2001, the lower roller on the gamut is identical to the old Evil Security guide from 2001. They are both spaced out with washers. Plus, the e.thirteens come 100% assembled from the factory. All you have to do is bolt it to your bike. Seriously, if you take 15 seconds to look at the spacer chart in the e.thirteen instructions, its no more than a 5 minute job to install. Help me out here. I want to understand this. The SRS and LG1 fit just about every bike made without modification, given, they are adjustable to a much wider range of chainring sizes than other guides, but that is one sliding external adjustment, It takes all of 5 seconds. I just can't imaging how anything can be simpler than taking a pre-assembled chainguide out of a box and bolting it to your bike.
As far as mud clearance goes, the e.thirteen set the standard in that department. If you have seen the 06 SRS and LG1, then you have probably seen that there are quite a few features specifically tailored to mud clearing. It takes one spray of a hose to clean the mud out of an SRS. Light weight is light weight, but you dont get lighter weight without a tradeoff, and in most cases in this world, that tradeoff is strength. An LG1 is the lightest guide in the world, and it will save your race run from a big impact with a rock with the taco.
First off, sorry to switch gears on the thread, but since we are talking about E.13 guides.... I am running the Smaller 36T and under SRS on my giant faith and I can't seem to get it rotated quite enough clockwise for the top guide to be positioned correctly because of the drop-down of the chainstay. This, in turn has caused the chain to rub the guide pretty much down to the small hex-heads up top in the largest gear. DW, is there any solution to this other than get then next size guide up?
The STS guide you have ("Smaller 36T and under SRS" as you called it) has an even tighter backplate angle than the SRS. It is meant for hardtails/short travel applications, and consequently won't allow you to get the rotation you need, especially under suspension compression. All long travel bikes should at least be on an SRS, and in some cases an SRS XW40. What model year Faith do you have? If it is an 2006 you should be all set.
i run my dhx with a 450 spring, in the lowest/slcakest position. i run the pro pedla at 9 clicks, bottom out at 2 turns in, rebound somewhere cant remembe and around 150-175 in the boost valve. feels great and is super plush while still being very efficent and takes huge hits. i had mine with an avy set up and it rode like ass. i hated it
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