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Race Face Cranks Loosening up?

brungeman

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Has anyone had a problem with race face cranks with the X-type bearings loosening up? I have tightened them after all 3 of the rides, I have used them on, and have gotten to the point of carrying the wrench to tighten them on the trail! One of the guys I ride with said he had the same problem but after a while they stayed tight. Any one else have this problem and a solution?
 
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Are you using a torque wrench???

I don't care for that interface. It just looks cheesy to me. That said - I have never had problems with any splined crank being loose, except when I broke a crank bolt.
 

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loco said:
Are you using a torque wrench???

I don't care for that interface. It just looks cheesy to me. That said - I have never had problems with any splined crank being loose, except when I broke a crank bolt.
I started out with good intentions and used a torque wrench. But on the trails when they were loose, I just cranked them tight. The next time, a little tighter. Last night in the middle of the ride, I cranked them down pretty tight. I didn't check them at the end of the ride so I don't know if they held!

splat said:
Talk to Berkshire rider , he used to haveto tighten them up 2 -3 times during the ride.
At least I know I am not the only one! I was worried I did something wrong in the assembly, but I have built a bazillion bikes it wasn't my first dance! I even whent so far as to re-read the manual (page 5 specially) inside joke I am pretty sure I didn't do anything out of the norm or wrong.

Was there anything that Berkshire rider did to remedy it? or did he just put something different on?
 

mud'n'sweat

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I've got the Evolve DH with x-type and have no problems with them. There is a 8mm spindle bolt, them also a 10mm lock bolt. Make sure you tighten both! Quite possibly the best crank for the money EVER. Those x-type bb's are so solid and the cranks are stiffer than the photographer that took April Law's trikey pic.
 

Trainwreck

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mud'n'sweat said:
I've got the Evolve DH with x-type and have no problems with them. There is a 8mm spindle bolt, them also a 10mm lock bolt. Make sure you tighten both! Quite possibly the best crank for the money EVER. Those x-type bb's are so solid and the cranks are stiffer than the photographer that took April Law's trikey pic.
Agreed! I'm running RF X-types on everything but the road bike and have never had a problem.
 
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JRB

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Hey brunge - read away at these threads on mtbr.

It looks like it may be a flaw that keeps them. It could be spacer related as well. I wouldn't loctite anything but the crank bolt. Cranks aren't something to toy with when it comes to removing them. If they get stuck from loctite, it's a bitch to get them off.

http://forums.mtbr.com/search.php?searchid=1883231
 

brungeman

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mud'n'sweat said:
I've got the Evolve DH with x-type and have no problems with them. There is a 8mm spindle bolt, them also a 10mm lock bolt. Make sure you tighten both! Quite possibly the best crank for the money EVER. Those x-type bb's are so solid and the cranks are stiffer than the photographer that took April Law's trikey pic.
:rofl:

Trainwreck said:
Agreed! I'm running RF X-types on everything but the road bike and have never had a problem.
I am glad you guys like them. I am not to the point of throwing in the towel yet. but wanted to know if it was just me or if others have had a problem with them. thanks for the input!

loco said:
Hey brunge - read away at these threads on mtbr.

It looks like it may be a flaw that keeps them. It could be spacer related as well. I wouldn't loctite anything but the crank bolt. Cranks aren't something to toy with when it comes to removing them. If they get stuck from loctite, it's a bitch to get them off.

http://forums.mtbr.com/search.php?searchid=1883231.
thanks, It seams as if a few others have also had issue with them. I am going to take them off tonight, make sure there is no damage from them coming loose and re-install them. I may put a little medium weight loctite on the crankbolt. I had contemplated loctite, and after reading the threads you linked to, I saw that some other folks have corrected the problem with a little bit of loctite.:thumb: that doesn't mean I wont keep Race Face on my speed dial on the old cell phone for a little trail side once over/in the field product review. Just kidding
 

berkshire_rider

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brungeman said:
I started out with good intentions and used a torque wrench. But on the trails when they were loose, I just cranked them tight. The next time, a little tighter. Last night in the middle of the ride, I cranked them down pretty tight. I didn't check them at the end of the ride so I don't know if they held!



At least I know I am not the only one! I was worried I did something wrong in the assembly, but I have built a bazillion bikes it wasn't my first dance! I even whent so far as to re-read the manual (page 5 specially) inside joke I am pretty sure I didn't do anything out of the norm or wrong.

Was there anything that Berkshire rider did to remedy it? or did he just put something different on?
Yeah - I bought a new bike. :rofl: I used to have to re-tighten the non-drive arm at least once a ride, because it would loosen while on the trail. I was lucky I never forgot to tighten it during the ride, prior to a drop or rockgarden and stripped it out. It was loc-tighted twice, and still loosened itself through the loc-tight. :mumble: There's other riders who have complained about the loosening problem, so signs point to a product flaw. Hate to say it, but your solution may be a different crankset.
 

brungeman

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berkshire_rider said:
Yeah - I bought a new bike. :rofl: I used to have to re-tighten the non-drive arm at least once a ride, because it would loosen while on the trail. I was lucky I never forgot to tighten it during the ride, prior to a drop or rockgarden and stripped it out. It was loc-tighted twice, and still loosened itself through the loc-tight. :mumble: There's other riders who have complained about the loosening problem, so signs point to a product flaw. Hate to say it, but your solution may be a different crankset.
Thanks for the info. I am not against gettin new stuff, cause I can get everything at a pretty good deal at the shop. I was just wondering if what I had going on was an isolated situation. I feel better knowing It wasn't just me. Your input will definitely help make a decision! I may give them one more chance though with the loctite!
 

James

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I had nothing but problems with mine too. I got one out of the first production run, and they also had an issue with the finish. Turned from ano black to a quite ugly purple color in about 2 months of average riding. That, and they won't stay tight. I personally don't like that system. I'm no Shimano guy, but for two piece cranks, you can't beat the security of the pinch bolts!

JJames
 

manhattanprjkt83

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Brunge get rid of them while they are basically new, and get a set of xt's. I have not had them loosen up or make a noise in 2 years, that is solid.

Oh and the bearings still feel smooth as hell, after all that winter mud...

Race face used to rock the party but they have fallen a bit behind with this overcomplicated system. Shimano kept it simple and is winning this one.