[luelling]

I just got back from the store and I couldn't believe what I witnessed....I was standing in the checkout line and there was a white woman (older, maybe 70) that was standing there waiting for this black woman (probably 50) and child (maybe 7) to pick out their bread so she could grab some.

The little boy turned and said "Sorry we're taking so long" to the white woman and then the black woman turned and said "Don't apologize you owe her nothing". A large argument ensued where the black woman proceeded to call her a cracker and play the race card to the max...all the stuff about how white people keep black people down and we're all the same.

I guess the thing that made me most awe struck was the thought that this woman was having a hand in raising this young child. Way to go, instill hate young.

I guess it was weird to me as well, because I’ve never seen such random racism….normally something happens and then the bigotry goes from there.

 

[sanjuro]

just curious, where did this happen?

 

[luelling]

Gorcery Outlet in Salem, OR (at the end of lancaster for the locals)

 

[Tenchiro]

Bread brings out the worst in people.

EDIT -- That's where my aunt and uncle live.

 

[sneakysnake]

I hate it when people pull out the race card randomly. That black woman had no reason to go off on that lady like that, especially since her kid was the one who was being nice.

:mumble: :mumble:

sometimes people make me want to go live all alone in the woods for the rest of my life.

 

[LordOpie]

Bread brings out the worst in people.

Don't worry about the kid. Old people in general are more racist than young. You have to experience actual racism in person to become seriously racist... the kid will realize that his mom/g-mom was treated poorly, but that people in general change so he won't hate whitey like his rolemodel does.

 

[sanjuro]

That's a great story. As an expert in grocery store racial incidents, that's pretty ridiculous but typical for a grocery incident.

Someone stupid reacts to a very minor slight by bringing in legitmate but totally unrelated beefs, in some attempt to justify bad behavior.

Classic.

 

[kidwoo]

The white lady should have taken the chance to then oppress her.

 

[dogwonder]

Gorcery Outlet in Salem, OR (at the end of lancaster for the locals)

Damn...not exactly a racism hotbed.

That's just plain scary. Unfortunately this isn't an isolated occurence and this thing happens all the time everywhere. I think for the most part society has evolved to the point where we all recognize and value diversity. There was a time not that long ago when racism was the norm and equality was the exception; the standard has definitely shifted to the right place.

But that doesn't mean that there aren't some people who still have deep racist feelings. Hell, growing up in a town of 98% white people, I know for a fact it still exists.

 

[luelling]

I thought about saying something, but whats the point? Its like arguing politics or religion....people have their beliefs and whatever I would say to her wouldn't make a difference. I felt bad for the older white woman.

The only other real incident of racism I've ever witnessed was at a party in Klamath Falls, OR (redneck town) and we were at a party. There was one black girl there and I was picking up on her and my friend was with me...he wanted a cigarette so he started asking around and one guy there (he was with a group of friends about ten strong) and he said he would give him one if he said he hated n*****. He wouldn't do it and bumbed a smoke from someone else.

The night continued and later his friends caught about three of us outside the party and then he got in my friends face telling him he better say he hates blacks or he was going to beat his ass....my friend stuck to his guns and took a couple of hard punches in the fight that took place. I've got mad respect for him to stand up for what he believes in.

 

[DaveW]

The only other real incident of racism I've ever witnessed was at a party in Klamath Falls, OR (redneck town) and we were at a party. There was one black girl there and I was picking up on her and my friend was with me...he wanted a cigarette so he started asking around and one guy there (he was with a group of friends about ten strong) and he said he would give him one if he said he hated n*****. He wouldn't do it and bumbed a smoke from someone else.

The night continued and later his friends caught about three of us outside the party and then he got in my friends face telling him he better say he hates blacks or he was going to beat his ass....my friend stuck to his guns and took a couple of hard punches in the fight that took place. I've got mad respect for him to stand up for what he believes in.

Yeah max respect for that man!

 

[cannondalejunky]

this guy at the grocery store i used to work at loved it when people pulled the race card on him. if you're that stupid to think that someones racist for asking to see your id for tobacco, or asking to move your car out of a no parking zone then you deserve a smart ass reply. whoever it was would always say it's because i'm black, or hispanic, we even had a chinnese guy accususe us of being racist because we were double checking the price of something. it's pretty funny though when you see the look on their face when he would tell them, that them bleing black or whatever is the exact reason why he did whatever he did.

 

[sanjuro]

I thought about saying something, but whats the point? Its like arguing politics or religion....people have their beliefs and whatever I would say to her wouldn't make a difference. I felt bad for the older white woman.

The only other real incident of racism I've ever witnessed was at a party in Klamath Falls, OR (redneck town) and we were at a party. There was one black girl there and I was picking up on her and my friend was with me...he wanted a cigarette so he started asking around and one guy there (he was with a group of friends about ten strong) and he said he would give him one if he said he hated n*****. He wouldn't do it and bumbed a smoke from someone else.

The night continued and later his friends caught about three of us outside the party and then he got in my friends face telling him he better say he hates blacks or he was going to beat his ass....my friend stuck to his guns and took a couple of hard punches in the fight that took place. I've got mad respect for him to stand up for what he believes in.

I joke all the time about living in SF, but stuff like this would never happen here.

I see mixed groups of races without a second thought. That is how it should be.

 

[Bicyclist]

Racism is messed up. In my little town I don't see much of it but these stories remind me it's definately present outside of where I'm located.

 

[robdamanii]

She was angered because the bread she was picking out was white.

Seriously though, what really goes through people's heads like that? Forget the race thing, isn't it just human decency on the child's part? It had NOTHING to do with race. The kid felt bad that an older person had to wait for them, and apologized in an attempt to just make the day a little kinder and brighter for that older woman (presumably).

Reverse racism is imho worse than regular racism; they're commiting an act that they would vehemently decry as being inhuman themselves. :nonono:

 

[manimal]

in my line of work i get the race card all the time. "you're profiling" etc..etc.
lucky for me, i have a better race card as i'm just barely in the limits to be considered a member of the cherokee tribe. so when i'm on the street and someone accuses me of harrassing them because they're [insert minority race here], i promptly shut them up by explaining that i'm american indian and my people were pillaged and murdered and all we got were some casinos.
i've even had the same people apologize to me after my little speech and i've only been complained on once for it

 

[TN]

sounds like you live in memphis. they must be transplants.

 

[valve bouncer]

Reminds of the skit from Eddie Murphy.....
[Eddie takes the plane south, looking for racism.] ...he said "Is this your bag?" I said "Yeah, that's my f*cking bag! Why, motherf*cker? A black man can't have a suitcase?"

 

[partsbara]

Reminds of the skit from Eddie Murphy.....
[Eddie takes the plane south, looking for racism.] ...he said "Is this your bag?" I said "Yeah, that's my f*cking bag! Why, motherf*cker? A black man can't have a suitcase?"

you racist...

 

[valve bouncer]

you racist...

Have a good trip back killer? Nuthin beats sitting in a 1 square foot area for 13 hours.

 

[stevew]

Have a good trip back killer? Nuthin beats sitting in a 1 square foot area for 13 hours.

A friend of mine visited your neck of the woods, aussie land. 23 hours total time in a plane

No amount of liquor/drugs/porn could make that enjoyable.

 

[partsbara]

Have a good trip back killer? Nuthin beats sitting in a 1 square foot area for 13 hours.

it was freakin evil mate... both planes totally full... enough to make me wanna fabricate a knife holder in one of my shoes...

 

[valve bouncer]

it was freakin evil mate... both planes totally full... enough to make me wanna fabricate a knife holder in one of my shoes...

They give you ya usual seat, the one next to the dunnies behind the screaming kids?

 

[valve bouncer]

A friend of mine visited your neck of the woods, aussie land. 23 hours total time in a plane

No amount of liquor/drugs/porn could make that enjoyable.

Fortunately it's only 10-12 hours back to Oz from here and as there's no direct flights I usually go via KL, Singapore, HK or Bangkok which are all great for stop-overs plus Malaysian airlines, Singapore Airlines, Cathay pacific and thai International are among the best airlines in the world.
AVOD on Sing. Air is the duck's nuts.

 

[dhbuilder]

Don't worry about the kid. Old people in general are more racist than young. You have to experience actual racism in person to become seriously racist... the kid will realize that his mom/g-mom was treated poorly, but that people in general change so he won't hate whitey like his rolemodel does.

when i was a kid growing up.
older relatives used(and some still do)
the "N" word.
it never struck me as a bad thing to say, because of the regularity at which i heard it.
and the black kids in our school were treated no differently than anyone else. so racism wasn't anything that was an aspect of our young lives.

then as i entered my twenties i moved to the south.
and the racism on both sides hit me like a ton of bricks.

now whenever i hear people use that word i cringe.
it makes them look worse than the ones they're trying to disparage.

and when other races use that card, they do more to keep themselves down than any stigma that whitecrackers can lay on em.

so let's hope the kids can eventually break the cycle.
unfortunately some are alway going to be the demon spawn of their folks.
no matter what race they happen to be.

 

[BurlyShirley]

I pretty much just dont care about it. Ive been in fights and crap and called people all kinds of nasty names. Ive seen people from ever race be **** on by people from another. The world is just stupid, and Im tired of everybody's precious little feelings all the time. Work hard, mind your own business and dont sweat what angry, misguided, uneducated idiots do or say.

 

[Polandspring88]

when i was a kid growing up.
older relatives used(and some still do)
the "N" word.
it never struck me as a bad thing to say, because of the regularity at which i heard it.

As the years go by that word is losing its meaning. There are many kids in my generation who fail to see what it represented as we have never seen true racism and oppression to the degree from which words like that were created.

 

[laura]

I pretty much just dont care about it. Ive been in fights and crap and called people all kinds of nasty names. Ive seen people from ever race be **** on by people from another. The world is just stupid, and Im tired of everybody's precious little feelings all the time. Work hard, mind your own business and dont sweat what angry, misguided, uneducated idiots do or say.

you took the words right out of my mouth. I am over it. All of it.

 

[dhbuilder]

As the years go by that word is losing its meaning. There are many kids in my generation who fail to see what it represented as we have never seen true racism and oppression to the degree from which words like that were created.

but i still hear older men use it.
and it seems like there's an extra bit of evil emphasised on that word as it leaves their mouth.

let's hope you're right about it eventually losing it's meaning.

 

[LordOpie]

As the years go by that word is losing its meaning. There are many kids in my generation who fail to see what it represented as we have never seen true racism and oppression to the degree from which words like that were created.

exactly.

In fact, I didn't know that the children's so-called nursery rhyme, "catch a tiger (n*) by his toe," was racist until some bitter old black woman was seen yelling at children.

Ya know what, kids don't know, don't care, and they mean no harm lady.

 

[Capt. Jack Sparrow]

...
Reverse racism is imho worse than regular racism; they're commiting an act that they would vehemently decry as being inhuman themselves. :nonono:

A little off the subject, but just wondering why people use the expressions, "reverse racism," and "reverse traffic."

Racism is racial prejudice. The word, "racism," does not apply to only whites discriminating against other races. No need for the word, "reverse." Using the term "reverse racism," to describe black people displaying racial prejudice towards white people hints at surprise that black people are allowed to feel ill towards white people based on the color of their skin... that it's some sort of reversal.

Same thing with traffic. If you're sitting behind a bunch of cars and average less than 25 miles per hour, you're in traffic. Doesn't matter which way traffic is expected to go, traffic is traffic.

Racism is racism. Traffic is traffic.

 

[cheeselad]

I was riding my bike to work once going down Beach st. in Santa Cruz and I got pulled over by a cop and he informs me that I'm going the wrong way down the street. I was a little confused because people ride both ways down that street all the time, so I asked him is there a safe and legal way for me to ride down in the direction I was going. He said no and that I would have to go down to the next block to head where I wanted to go. He then asked for ID and proceeded to write up a ticket.

I sat down and waited for him to finish, at this point another cyclist rides by and the cop yells over to him to stop and head his way another rider getting ticketed. It was kind of amusing and tried to make the most of it so while I was sitting I looked over to watch people as they ride into this trap. A group of cyclists came up next and I started smiling cause I knew what was going to happen. They rolled up and then they rolled by.

Then I got confused. I looked over to the cop, he looked at me, I looked over to his partner who sat there in the patrol car with the door open and then I looked over at the other cyclist. Thought to myself what the hell is going on? According to the police officer there was no legal way to head down that street in the direction they were headed.

I was wondering what the hell did I do differently that caught his attention. I looked over to the other cyclist who had been stopped and then back to the pack that rode by and I realized. Holy crap I'm brown. The other cyclist is brown, and those people that just rode by are white.

Then I stopped myself. I made myself believe that the group that rode by was too big for the police officer to stop. So I let it pass and sat there waiting for the next sucker to be pulled over. Then came a lone cyclist and for sure this dude was going to be pulled over. And the same damn thing happened he rode on by without a peep from either officer.

The chickensh*% that I am I just sit there and say nothing to either officer and take the ticket and leave. From that day on I'd skip the scenic Boardwalk route to go down the ghetto areas of the Beach Flats to head to work.

Work hard, mind your own business and dont sweat what angry, misguided, uneducated idiots do or say.

That's basically what I was doing, heading off to work, minding my own business. I've had groups of people yell crazy racist ignorant stuff at me and I usually laugh it off. But when racism comes from someone who's got some power, someone who's duty is to "protect and serve" its a little bit harder to let it pass. I don't mind getting the ticket cause I was breaking the law, what broke me was the preferential treatment the other cyclists were getting.

 

[Westy]

As the years go by that word is losing its meaning. There are many kids in my generation who fail to see what it represented as we have never seen true racism and oppression to the degree from which words like that were created.

I think a fact that a lot of people forget is that it wasn't that long ago when such oppression was rampant. Someone of my age probably grew up in more PC times buy in my fathers generation was much different. My parents came from very poor uneducated background but were able to work hard and be quite successful in life, I have benefited greatly from that. If they were not white their and my story would be significantly different.

 

[dhbuilder]

I think a fact that a lot of people forget is that it wasn't that long ago when such oppression was rampant. Someone of my age probably grew up in more PC times buy in my fathers generation was much different. My parents came from very poor uneducated background but were able to work hard and be quite successful in life, I have benefited greatly from that. If they were not white their and my story would be significantly different.

unfortunately you are correct.

the welfare state in this country doesn't make it any easier either.
locking in generation after generation to a life of handouts.
while it's far too easy for us to tell them to "get out and get a job".
in the areas where that is prevalent, those opportunities are few and far between.
and it's the black communities that seem to suffer that fate more than others. "keeping them down" whether we like it or not, still exists.
it may not be because of our attitudes towards them, but it's a racial issue to them just the same.

 

[sanjuro]

I was wondering what the hell did I do differently that caught his attention. I looked over to the other cyclist who had been stopped and then back to the pack that rode by and I realized. Holy crap I'm brown. The other cyclist is brown, and those people that just rode by are white.

That's basically what I was doing, heading off to work, minding my own business. I've had groups of people yell crazy racist ignorant stuff at me and I usually laugh it off. But when racism comes from someone who's got some power, someone who's duty is to "protect and serve" its a little bit harder to let it pass. I don't mind getting the ticket cause I was breaking the law, what broke me was the preferential treatment the other cyclists were getting.

I think the hardest thing about racism today is that the racists are not wearing white robes and hats, but the same smile they use on racial groups they do like.

I can't say that being Chinese has prevented me from getting a job or an apartment, but there are a few occasions which people treated me differently because of my race, and I had to leave wondering what just did happen.

I wonder the kind of treatment I would have received over the years if I was black...

 

[ioscope]

There's a kid that pulls the race card in my old school.

It's constantly "Why do I get an F on this paper? Is it because I am black?"

He doesn't realize that everybody already knows he is an asshole, so they don't need to pre judge him.

 

[BurlyShirley]

There's a kid that pulls the race card in my old school.

It's constantly "Why do I get an F on this paper? Is it because I am black?"

He doesn't realize that everybody already knows he is an asshole, so they don't need to pre judge him.

Attending the crappy community college that I do, I see this day in and day out...

Just today, there was a guy who had missed 5 classes already (can only miss 4 before you're dropped in summer) who came to class, and when the teacher said "you've been dropped" he tried to pull the race card. What crap.

 

[sanjuro]

Attending the crappy community college that I do, I see this day in and day out...

Just today, there was a guy who had missed 5 classes already (can only miss 4 before you're dropped in summer) who came to class, and when the teacher said "you've been dropped" he tried to pull the race card. What crap.

That's funny.

Sometimes I would joke about how my white friends were oppressing me, which was funny (to me) because most of them worked low-wage service industry jobs where I worked in big offices.

 

[qualude]

When my wife (from Detroit) and I went back to Oregon to visit my family, we were standing in a checkout line at Safeway, when I noticed this Hispanic woman glaring at us as if we were some sort of abomination. I actually found it kind of funny....Guess she wasn't to keen on the race mixin'.