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buckoW

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Don't know, that's why I'd need to test ride one. 664 stack on a large is a good 30mm more than I'm used to though.
What rise bar do you run on your current bike?

It’s got a 110mm long head tube. With a 15 or 20mm rise bar and no spacers it’s pretty low imo. I can’t ride it slammed or else I’m too far over the front for my tastes. I think Gary is correct about the low bb adding stack compared to other bikes.

Which linkage would you go for?
 

djjohnr

Turbo Monkey
Apr 21, 2002
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What rise bar do you run on your current bike?

It’s got a 110mm long head tube. With a 15 or 20mm rise bar and no spacers it’s pretty low imo. I can’t ride it slammed or else I’m too far over the front for my tastes. I think Gary is correct about the low bb adding stack compared to other bikes.

Which linkage would you go for?
On the two bikes I ride the most -

(reach/stack/headtube/chainstay/wheelbase/bbdrop)

478/635/110/448/1259/30: has a -1 angleset (wolf tooth so no additional stack like a works) so there is some drift on those numbers. 30mm rise bar, 45mm stem and 5mm spacer.

485/630/110/438/1255/39: mid-high pivot so sagged chainstay & wheelbase are longer. 30mm rise bar, 40mm stem and 20mm of spacers.

Madonna V3 geo shows a 130mm headtube on the large, not 110? https://raawmtb.com/en-us/collections/madonna-v3/products/madonna-v3-frame-kit-raw. If I ordered one I'd start with the Rocker 60 and +5mm on the chainstays.
 

buckoW

Turbo Monkey
Mar 1, 2007
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On the two bikes I ride the most -

(reach/stack/headtube/chainstay/wheelbase/bbdrop)

478/635/110/448/1259/30: has a -1 angleset (wolf tooth so no additional stack like a works) so there is some drift on those numbers. 30mm rise bar, 45mm stem and 5mm spacer.

485/630/110/438/1255/39: mid-high pivot so sagged chainstay & wheelbase are longer. 30mm rise bar, 40mm stem and 20mm of spacers.

Madonna V3 geo shows a 130mm headtube on the large, not 110? https://raawmtb.com/en-us/collections/madonna-v3/products/madonna-v3-frame-kit-raw. If I ordered one I'd start with the Rocker 60 and +5mm on the chainstays.
Oh yeah, you’re right on the 130 for the large, sorry! My bad.

I think I’d like to have both linkages and the full shock mount kit if I got one.
 

trib

not worthy of a Rux.
Jun 22, 2009
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Spider-Man making bikes now? It’s probably very expensive so including two extra chain links is a nice touch.
 

slimshady

¡Mira, una ardilla!
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Not sure if I'm missing something but these things look like they haven't really munted any of the details, especially the price. Ticks a lot of boxes. A little bit chonky I guess, maybe an accessory mount thingy would be nice but yeah - for what you're paying thats a nice little no-nonsense bike.
Been recommending Airdrop and Bird to a couple of fellow Argentinians living in EU for no nonsense bikes at really good prices since a couple years ago. Trustable kinematics, good geometry and reasonable prices as you say.
 

kidwoo

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konifere

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canadmos

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Gary

my pronouns are hag/gis
Aug 27, 2002
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Most commonly used in noun form "Munter" here.
Ie. "That last ebike @iRider posted a pic of is a fucking munter".
 

trib

not worthy of a Rux.
Jun 22, 2009
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in the discussion for gun control, critics often ask “if the founding fathers of America could see how devastating and horrifying modern weopenry can be, would they have suggested each man may keep an arsenal?” When seeing this bike I suggest that those early pioneers of mountain biking would’ve discarded their balloon tyres if they could see the horrifying selection available to the modern mountain biker.

preemptive edit before someone starts an actual discussion about guns: this was a joke about bikes