[Mo(n)arch]

I remember vividly my old 26" BOS Idylle rare air. 2013 I think it was. Still to this date the best air spring I have ridden and an insane amount of control via the open oilbath damper.
Such a shame that it was always a pita to get their products serviced as the product was really, really good.
I really really loved that fork.

 

[Happymtb.fr]

i haven‘t even found reviews for the last products. Who buys these and why are they not talking about them?

Some French people buy them. Bos seems to want to expand so that hopefully there will be more reviews and availability.

@Mo(n)arch
Service and spares is working well, even very well from the feedback I get on the french forum Velovert. Bos had a huge problem with their database for order, stock, etc many years ago. It almost killed the company and gave them a bad reputation...
I don't know if Bos has service centers outside France nowadays?

 

[Carraig042]

Here they are, and at $499 for the rear hub.

 

[slimshady]

Here they are, and at $499 for the rear hub.

View attachment 218859

 

[Redwood Mulch Chucker]

Bos suspension is launching a bunch of new products. The article is in French and hopefully your browser will be able to translate it.

BOS Suspension revient avec une nouvelle gamme VTT ⋆ Vojo

Basée à Toulouse, l’entreprise BOS est spécialisée dans la conception de suspensions haut de gamme. Historiquement présente dans les sports motorisés, la marque a une riche histoire en VTT et dans les disciplines gravity. Idylle, Kirk, Deville, ces noms rappelleront des souvenirs aux plus âgés...

www.vojomag.com

"a passive system that detects shocks from the ground and adjusts the response of the fork to optimize the compression and gripping of the travel without diving unnecessarily"

Sold, take my money!
But seriously, hopefully they get a US distributor. A buddy had a DH fork long ago, it did not suck.

Not so sure about the rotors, not much material there......

 

[slimshady]

"a passive system that detects shocks from the ground and adjusts the response of the fork to optimize the compression and gripping of the travel without diving unnecessarily"

It's an intertia valve, a la Specialized Brain, but with a lighter tune.

 

[jonKranked]

Bos suspension is launching a bunch of new products. The article is in French and hopefully your browser will be able to translate it.

BOS Suspension revient avec une nouvelle gamme VTT ⋆ Vojo

Basée à Toulouse, l’entreprise BOS est spécialisée dans la conception de suspensions haut de gamme. Historiquement présente dans les sports motorisés, la marque a une riche histoire en VTT et dans les disciplines gravity. Idylle, Kirk, Deville, ces noms rappelleront des souvenirs aux plus âgés...

www.vojomag.com

shouldn't this go in the "whatever happened to...?" thread?

 

[jonKranked]

$2500 USD for the DH fork. since when does france have good crack?

 

[jonKranked]

Not so sure about the rotors, not much material there......
View attachment 218863

"race brakes"

 

[Mo(n)arch]

Some French people buy them. Bos seems to want to expand so that hopefully there will be more reviews and availability.

@Mo(n)arch
Service and spares is working well, even very well from the feedback I get on the french forum Velovert. Bos had a huge problem with their database for order, stock, etc many years ago. It almost killed the company and gave them a bad reputation...
I don't know if Bos has service centers outside France nowadays?

Look, I'd totally try their offerings again. Actually I'd try a mini Idylle with 170mm in a heartbeat.
Like you said, in that period of time, like 10-12 years ago they sold a sh!ton of forks and dampers, atleast in europe. Everybody wanted their stuff. Unfortunately, they weren't able to get their service centers straight and refused to give information to people how to self service their stuff.
Long story short, everyone was convinced their product was amazing, but nobody wanted to deal with their (lack of) aftersales support.

 

[trib]

When they became suspension sponsor of the Scott DH team back in 2018 I thought that was a left field partnership, I don’t remember a single review or even first look style article about their products at the time. Good to see that they’re still making stuff.

It’s amazing how many brands exist completely in Europe and Asia with no cross over into the US market.

 

[Andeh]

After using (and moving on from) EXT stuff for a couple years, boutique non-self service suspension coupled with French attitude sounds like a recipe for disaster.

 

[jonKranked]

Look, I'd totally try their offerings again. Actually I'd try a mini Idylle with 170mm in a heartbeat.
Like you said, in that period of time, like 10-12 years ago they sold a sh!ton of forks and dampers, atleast in europe. Everybody wanted their stuff. Unfortunately, they weren't able to get their service centers straight and refused to give information to people how to self service their stuff.
Long story short, everyone was convinced their product was amazing, but nobody wanted to deal with their (lack of) aftersales support.

this time, will be different!

 

[Jm_]

this time, will be different!

 

[Happymtb.fr]

After using (and moving on from) EXT stuff for a couple years, boutique non-self service suspension coupled with French attitude sounds like a recipe for disaster.

French attitude? Je ne comprends pas...

I have very little experience with Bos. I had a Bos S*toy chock for a short while long ago. It might have been very good, I don't know. I didn't have much to compare it to as I was discovering gravity riding. I didn't liked the loud noise the oil flow was making. It was for sure much better than than the CCDB air it replaced. Enduro was gaining popularity at that time, I moved on in that direction and got a new bike!

I feel you about serviceability and spares. I have now 2 EXT storia. I do change the oil on them myself. I can also get a similar dust seal to the original. The oil seal running against the shaft is the limiting factor as I don't know its dimensions and hardness. I will need to get them fully serviced at the local service centre every now and then to get the correct seal. Maybe also to hear what I did wrong as a home mechanic?
Bos has all the spare parts and service kits listed and available for sale to everyone on their website. That's not available from EXT. Not for you and me at least, probably just for dealers.

One last thing. Bos is all about performance. Serviceability and durability will come second.

 

[sundaydoug]

I remember vividly my old 26" BOS Idylle rare air. 2013 I think it was. Still to this date the best air spring I have ridden and an insane amount of control via the open oilbath damper.
Such a shame that it was always a pita to get their products serviced as the product was really, really good.
I really really loved that fork.

I had the coil version on my Sunday. Best bicycle suspension product I've ever ridden.

 

[konastab01]

Bos suspension is launching a bunch of new products. The article is in French and hopefully your browser will be able to translate it.

BOS Suspension revient avec une nouvelle gamme VTT ⋆ Vojo

Basée à Toulouse, l’entreprise BOS est spécialisée dans la conception de suspensions haut de gamme. Historiquement présente dans les sports motorisés, la marque a une riche histoire en VTT et dans les disciplines gravity. Idylle, Kirk, Deville, ces noms rappelleront des souvenirs aux plus âgés...

www.vojomag.com

Worst after sales ever from a company.

 

[6thElement]

Are Morewood making a comeback too? As that was the combo I remember from 2009ish that was popular.

 

[Andeh]

this time, will be different!

Reminds me of the most common lies:
The check is in the mail.
It was like that when I got it.
It ran when parked.
I'll pull out in time.

 

[Mo(n)arch]

Are Morewood making a comeback too? As that was the combo I remember from 2009ish that was popular.

I tested this bike on literally one of the roughest tracks in our zone, with the coil RaRe as the air spring wasn't available at that time. That thing absolutely blew my mind.
Is it only nostalgia or was bike suspension really better about 10-15 years ago?

 

[HardtailHack]

I shot Bos an email maybe six months back asking if it was possible to reduce travel on any of their forks more than advertised.
Their reply was swift and it was something like- No, have a good day.

I should see if I can get bits for my Stoy.

 

[jonKranked]

Are Morewood making a comeback too? As that was the combo I remember from 2009ish that was popular.

Pyga bikes. Been around a couple years now.

 

[canadmos]

Is it only nostalgia or was bike suspension really better about 10-15 years ago?

I'd guess its a mix of feeling nostalgia plus the fact that that is around when bike suspension started to get really good. Back then damping and whatnot actually improved.

"We now have damping!"

vs

"We now have MOAR damping!"

 

[Sandwich]

Is it only nostalgia or was bike suspension really better about 10-15 years ago?

One thing is that I think suspension started to get controlled. 15 years ago we had plush and our shocks actually moved. Now we have smooth but there's enough understanding of damping to get more mileage out of the same travel. So, it doesn't feel as nice in the parking lot, but you can go faster on it.

 

[Mo(n)arch]

One thing is that I think suspension started to get controlled. 15 years ago we had plush and our shocks actually moved. Now we have smooth but there's enough understanding of damping to get more mileage out of the same travel. So, it doesn't feel as nice in the parking lot, but you can go faster on it.

Maybe it's this.
On the other hand I think that we have definitely lost certain performance for "user friendliness". Air suspension has and will have still it's downsides and I repeat that I have never again ridden an air fork this composed then the old Idylle.

Mind you, we are still talking cartridges that have still to this day no or too much damping (Grip2 vs. Charger) or shitty air springs (ZEB).
Progression is once more then less modern, depending on features like HBO etc. and don't get me started on build quality...

All I say is, it would be interesting to test for example the Idylle rare internals in an updated 29" setting against current high end offerings and see how it perfermed.

 

[jonKranked]

Is it only nostalgia or was bike suspension really better about 10-15 years ago?

hindsight is usually 20/20. back then, bos boingers probably felt good by comparison because there was still so much crap out there.

 

[Happymtb.fr]

I shot Bos an email maybe six months back asking if it was possible to reduce travel on any of their forks more than advertised.
Their reply was swift and it was something like- No, have a good day.

I should see if I can get bits for my Stoy.

Novyparts can lower your Bos fork.

 

[FlipSide]

Devinci just launched a new version of the Troy.

The all-new Troy & Troy ST

Today, we’re proud to release the fifth generation of our flagship mountain bike. This Troy is our most advanced aluminum frame ever. It’s built to last, by hand, in Canada. And just like every Devinci mountain bike, it’s guaranteed for life.

www.devinci.com

What I mainly noted:
- Alu frame made in Canada
- Went back to Boost148
- 2 models based on the same frame: 140/130 or 160/150
- Each model available with a single build kit or frame only. Probably a good move these days to limit inventory issues.
- No headset cable routing
- 29 or Mullet
- Long reach
- I would have preferred a shorter ST
- Now with in-frame storage

Hopefully, this is a sign Devinci (and hopefully others) are starting to move away from SuperBoost157.

 

[jonKranked]

somehow bikemag AI go the scoop

https://www.bikemag.com/news/chris-canfield-launches-vampire-bikes

 

[Sandwich]

Lauf Elja - Lauf Cycles - gravel bikes, mountain bikes and road bikes

We push boundaries to make you the best bikes on the planet! At a price nobody competes with. While giving you a 30 day test ride to make sure it's perfect for you.

www.laufcycles.com

Lauf cycles still exists. In case you were one of three people who needed a 2.8-3" tire 29er.

 

[Sandwich]

Devinci just launched a new version of the Troy.

The all-new Troy & Troy ST

Today, we’re proud to release the fifth generation of our flagship mountain bike. This Troy is our most advanced aluminum frame ever. It’s built to last, by hand, in Canada. And just like every Devinci mountain bike, it’s guaranteed for life.

www.devinci.com

What I mainly noted:
- Alu frame made in Canada
- Went back to Boost148
- 2 models based on the same frame: 140/130 or 160/150
- Each model available with a single build kit or frame only. Probably a good move these days to limit inventory issues.
- No headset cable routing
- 29 or Mullet
- Long reach
- I would have preferred a shorter ST
- Now with in-frame storage

Hopefully, this is a sign Devinci (and hopefully others) are starting to move away from SuperBoost157.

I love that, awesome spec and geometry.

 

[jonKranked]

Lauf Elja - Lauf Cycles - gravel bikes, mountain bikes and road bikes

We push boundaries to make you the best bikes on the planet! At a price nobody competes with. While giving you a 30 day test ride to make sure it's perfect for you.

www.laufcycles.com

Lauf cycles still exists. In case you were one of three people who needed a 2.8-3" tire 29er.

i saw one of their spring forks in the wild a couple weeks back.

 

[jonKranked]

also that bike looks very much like an Orange (who are also somehow still around)

 

[jstuhlman]

as a one bike kinda guy...super internested in vampire...

 

[jonKranked]

as a one bike kinda guy...super internested in vampire...

its primarily a DH bike, and is 10lbs without shock.

 

[bullcrew]

as a one bike kinda guy...super internested in vampire...

Already on list for a xl... 38lb bike is normal for here..so game on ..

 

[bullcrew]

its primarily a DH bike, and is 10lbs without shock.

And that's a good thing...I prefer DH anywase...and having options and only 1 bike on rack is awesome...

 

[jonKranked]

And that's a good thing...I prefer DH anywase...and having options and only 1 bike on rack is awesome...

i was pointing that out for js. more as a fact than a deterrent.

 

[bullcrew]

i was pointing that out for js. more as a fact than a deterrent.

Yeah I didn't think that. I agree with your comment and I'd choose a DH based bike that swiss armies out to Enduro and all mountain.. .

 

[Sandwich]

also that bike looks very much like an Orange (who are also somehow still around)

Yeah I'm like one of two people who still finds single pivots interesting, but this frame is...questionable. That seat tube. The leverage curve. meep.