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yea, i shard this with hab, and he commented on the dated geometry. my response was that its perfect for the kind of person that would actually consider a ti hardtail from thomson.
it would appear the mullet cycles press release shit show over on vital got nuked 
CANCEL CULTURE UGHit would appear the mullet cycles press release shit show over on vital got nuked
i suspect the company themselves pulled it, after they started getting asked for their patent numbers and an explanation as to why none of their alleged trademarks showed up in a TM search
That's what I figured, but the same company that suggested "Make biking great again" as a slogan will probably be the first to blame others...
who rides DH bikes anymore?
but seriously...there was a time we all tried to trick out our DH bikes with the best of everything, but my guess is that most people are quite content with the stock seatpost or upgrade straight to carbon.
I'm not going to try to wrap my head around the first one, but in the second wouldn't that be a good thing? Don't you want a "better" "angle of attack" as they say? And the third one....lawdy.
I still have mine...and it's still 26". I even rode it last year.
making a pictogram with arrows doesn't mean its compliant with the laws of physics
My professional assessment as an engineer is: hogwash.
update: confirmed it was pulled by the company.
This is pretty cool and interesting, just because: https://www.pinkbike.com/news/earthbounds-high-pivot-bike-is-made-from-bamboo-and-carbon.html
But I don't know how I feel about riding something that is held together with thoughts and prayers.
But I don't know how I feel about riding something that is held together with thoughts and prayers.
And ends with splinters and shards
Trek is working on an HSP session with an idler.
Minus the single pivot part..
It's still their abp design, so it could be argued that it's a linkage driven single pivot.
It actually loses the Full floater thingy, where the shock is bolted to the rear triangle alone, but not the ABP.
Mullet bikes are definitely going to be integrated into my pre-race WC analysis. Gotta start working on new magic acronyms nao.
it just reeked of the late 90's / early 00's mentality "our stuff is the best you can't even question it". they should call themselves bong resin bikes, because they've probably been encased in that stuff since back then.
@Steve M i also did a quick patent search, i couldn't even find a patent number on their website, which leads me to assume:
- Its not their patent, they're just licensing it; or it was someone else's patent they acquired. Nothing wrong with licensing something, but not stating that is more than a little disingenuous.
- The patent doesn't cover what they say it does; they talked about pivot placement and such, but then also mentioned bearing combinations? Misleading.
- The patent is so poorly worded it wouldn't be able to withstand legal scrutiny if it were challenged - and that's assuming the have the ability (read: "funding") to defend such a challenge. Given all the other nonsense they've posted (combined with the fact that they're bragging about a bike with a regressive rate) leads me to assume this is the most likely scenario.
- There is no patent. This is likely false advertising (which is illegal)
i am going to use this term in the future whenever garbage physics is encountered.
oh man, here's another nugget of gold from them, with more explanations of Newton's 420th law:
bikerumor.com
the comments are good too.
Review: Has Mullet Cycles nailed mixing wheel sizes with their titanium Honey Maker?
We review Mullet Cycles new mixed wheel titanium hardtail with 29er & 27.5 wheels. We find out if they nailed what dirt bikes have done for years?
bikerumor.com
the comments are good too.
another article with more great comments:
bikerumor.com
Mullet Cycles bring the Peacemaker single-pivot full suspension mountain bike to life
Mullet Cycles add a second bike to their roster of mixed wheel size mountain bikes; the single-pivot full suspension Mullet Peacemaker
bikerumor.com
I don't think a pivot placement for a single pivot frame could be patented. There's no way to protect/trademark a mathematical formula showing you've found the perfect/magical/unicorn jizzed location with relation to any other frame dimensions.
i believe there are some patents where pivot placement was an element of the claims, however it was to support other claims for certain kinematics. not the location by itself.
“Miles is a mover & a shaker when it comes to ‘always be sellin’.”
i forgot about non-publication requests here, but that's only for a patent that will only be filed in the US with the USPTO; the requirements for that is a patent that HAS not and WILL not be filed in another country. the only scenarios which that usually applies to are designs that are already patented in another country, or are otherwise un-patentable in other countries.
since spomer has essentially asked we cease beating the dead horse over on vital........ i'll continue the flogging here. it was confirmed that the 2 accounts that got banned were not the same person, but 2 people from the same bike shop using the same computer. which to me still represents a coordinated effort.
copypasta'ing myself:
i did check the time stamps on the comments while they were active, it didn't start off bad, but it devolved quickly when they refused to answer questions and it became readily apparent that there were some shenanigans occurring from their side (multiple accounts, etc). i can only feel so bad for them when they start off their press release "No marketing bs...." then proceed with nothing but marketing BS and a stubborn refusal to answer technical questions.
I've seen the identical press release on numerous sites now, with similar coordinated efforts in the comment section. one of my favorites was "I absolutely LOVE that they don’t go in-depth with the frame numbers. I’ve been in the bike biz trenches for almost 30 years and I can’t stand talking to box-reader internet junkie consumers about stack and reach numbers like it matters. BECAUSE IT DOESN’T. EVER." they seem to be oblivious to the fact that posting press release son these websites is only going to invite these kinds of discussions and questions, because that's where the better informed mtb consumer is going for information, and they will be completely written off for the kind of response they had.
for me personally, the fact that they liked to talk about their patented suspension, yet refused to post the patent # or even answer any questions about it is extremely suspect.
copypasta'ing myself:
i did check the time stamps on the comments while they were active, it didn't start off bad, but it devolved quickly when they refused to answer questions and it became readily apparent that there were some shenanigans occurring from their side (multiple accounts, etc). i can only feel so bad for them when they start off their press release "No marketing bs...." then proceed with nothing but marketing BS and a stubborn refusal to answer technical questions.
I've seen the identical press release on numerous sites now, with similar coordinated efforts in the comment section. one of my favorites was "I absolutely LOVE that they don’t go in-depth with the frame numbers. I’ve been in the bike biz trenches for almost 30 years and I can’t stand talking to box-reader internet junkie consumers about stack and reach numbers like it matters. BECAUSE IT DOESN’T. EVER." they seem to be oblivious to the fact that posting press release son these websites is only going to invite these kinds of discussions and questions, because that's where the better informed mtb consumer is going for information, and they will be completely written off for the kind of response they had.
for me personally, the fact that they liked to talk about their patented suspension, yet refused to post the patent # or even answer any questions about it is extremely suspect.
Have these on my bikes... will keep an eye. Is that the 4mm kind or the 3mm kind? Have one of each iirc.
I have an x4 as well and it's one of two stems that have ever twisted on me. Hard to get good torque on the 1.5mm stem bolts they use. Now I wrench the fuck out of them every time and will replace the stem when I can.
That's probably because you were trying to use it with a 35mm bullhorn handlebar on your penny farthing
.It was the 4mm kind. Ran it on my DJ (probably what killed it) and then trail bike where it finally died one ride. It actually made it back to the carpark (gently) with just the one clamp but yeah I guess everything aluminium and weight optimised will eventually fatigue and die.