If one thing has been proven it is that telescoping structural elements do not work on bikes, or airplanes for that matter.stop
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Not saying it can’t be done, just that it hasn’t/ won’t be. Lefty is a good example of what’s possible. All the shock yokes are good examples of not.
The 2 upper links that are not joined make me think it's going to have a lot of flex half way into travel. Carbon may help but this was my only complaint for my Canfield Riot.
2022 Orbea Rallon Review | BLISTER
Orbea says their new Rallon Enduro bike has a "focus on fast", and we've got all the details. Check out our First Look. | 2022 Orbea Rallon
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Man, that ticks a hell of a lot of boxes for me. Price is pretty crazy, but I guess it comes with custom paint job. The raw carbon with clear coat...2022 Orbea Rallon Review | BLISTER
Orbea says their new Rallon Enduro bike has a "focus on fast", and we've got all the details. Check out our First Look. | 2022 Orbea Rallon
are you doing the ride review as well?2022 Orbea Rallon Review | BLISTER
Orbea says their new Rallon Enduro bike has a "focus on fast", and we've got all the details. Check out our First Look. | 2022 Orbea Rallon
Huh? They did a lot more than put in a snack box.
HTA: 0.5 degrees slacker
STA: 1.5 degrees steeper
Reach: about 30mm longer
CS: about 5mm longer
progressivity: about 24% instead of 10%
BB isn't super high or low at 343 - seems well rounded for a race bike in potentially chunky terrain with 160mm rear travel.
The head angle seems to be right at what most EWS racers are choosing to run.
HTA: 0.5 degrees slacker
STA: 1.5 degrees steeper
Reach: about 30mm longer
CS: about 5mm longer
progressivity: about 24% instead of 10%
BB isn't super high or low at 343 - seems well rounded for a race bike in potentially chunky terrain with 160mm rear travel.
The head angle seems to be right at what most EWS racers are choosing to run.
I'm confused by Blister's and Singletrack's reviews. On Singletrack they say the L size was fitted with a 170mm dropper, while the XL should sport a 200mm one. The tester said he measures 1.78M, and had to expose about 2cm of dropper to have the 170mm dropper and saddle at his right height, on the size L frame. He says a 200mm post should be overkill for the L size, given the dropper would have to bottom against the seatpost clamp. If the published geometry is accurate, I would be able to accommodate a 200mm dropper on a L sized frame, given now I'm running a 150mm on a R4 frame with a 485mm seat tube.
You can bottom a 200mm Transfer to the collar in all sizes, but that doesn't mean that someone riding any given size is going to have long enough legs to clear it. And if you order the bike from Orbea, you can choose which dropper length you want on any given size.
so is every non linkage fork ever made
sorry, any time somebody makes the hurr durr airplane strut argument, that's where my ape brain goes.
I don't think there's any reason it can't be done right, it just isn't done right. Too much sideloading etc. If you're going to make the shock a wear item, at least make it easily replaceable
You should see some of the dumb trunion shock shit they've been doing.
That bike doesn't look too bad to me. Obviously it's better if you can take some of that off with a linkage, but along those lines, the leverage curve of that thing is likely far more offensive than the structural shortcut.
I think it looks great, super clean and reduces moving parts by doing what they did...but I think the moving parts make the system stiffer, smoother, and more efficient, so whaddayagonnado. Plus getting replacement parts is going to be a challenge.
should fit, dealer vid said emphasis was on fitting longer seat posts in the new frame
That's the Orbea. Weren't you talking about the other thing, with the shock in the top tube?
Because yeah, I bet the leverage curve on that one is fucked up.
Oh yeah, this thing….
Apologies, the Orbea also has a shock extender which can snap shocks.
Apologies, the Orbea also has a shock extender which can snap shocks.
F-no. Such a dumb idea to not be able to quickly change shocks or be tied to certain parts. He claims it uses all off-the-shelf parts, but just simple shit like being able to take a shock off to put on a standby so you can work on one or send it in, it's never worth it to go down this proprietary road in the long run. Plus he is claiming some kind of magical kinematics, but it's not very complicated...not to mention it loses out on lateral rigidity up top. If I wanted a lighter bike, I'd get one of the flex-stay bikes. If I wanted a stiffer bike, I'd get a dual-link bike.Oh yeah, this thing….
Apologies, the Orbea also has a shock extender which can snap shocks.
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I was going to post a pic with a coil shock but thought I might get in trouble.
I was going to post a pic with a coil shock but thought I might get in trouble.
But it looks worse again with the coil, the cable routing just looks weird, why not just put it on top of the DT?On this pic:
it looks even worse.
If I was paying that much for a Chinese made frame I'd expect it to be sorta nice looking.
Indeed. The laser sintered parts aren't even polished, to reveal the porous finishing I guess. Not my cup of tea.
Also, imagine the one in pic I posted with a coil shoch.
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Nukeproof to the mixed wheelsize market. Gotta admit as a Mega 275 owner I'd love to have gotten a 297 if they were out when I bought mine.
This statement on their website is a nice touch, but looks like it with just be the rear end available for the 290s as that is gonna be the cheapest way to retrofit one (no fork needed)
"Don’t despair if you are a current V4 Mega or Giga 290 owner, later in the year Nukeproof will offer an MX kit for owners who wish to convert their current bike)."
Why?
Why what? Why make one or why want one?
So, the new Rocky Element was released today to the public. I have one reserved if I want it for next summer, but I just don’t know if I would be happy with just 120mm of travel for my daily driver. It would also need a piggyback shock and a 140mm fork, which I have. Decisions. I am assuming there will be no chance in hell of taking a demo out for a proper rip before committing in this environment. I know these short travel bikes have gotten way better, but that much better?
Every other detail/geo is just about perfect.
Every other detail/geo is just about perfect.
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