anyone find the weight?
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My Foes was $2600, which again, seems pretty dang reasonable for a frameset, compared to $3500-4000 Asian carbon fiber stuff. I mean, if US manufacturers can do this and turn a profit, I'll buy aluminum all damn day.
No skull gusset? Why?canfield jedi is back as a 29'er. actually looks pretty good, prices aren't totally insane.
JEDI 29 - Downhill Race
JEDI - 29er DH Bike - Downhill MTB | Introducing the Canfield Jedi 29. One of the most revered downhill bikes is back and faster than ever before with 29" wheels.canfieldbikes.com
Indeed!
This One was released in 2020...
Are you in the mood for a new Kranked installment too? And riding with shoulder-wide handlebars?No skull gusset? Why?
That's w/o shock.
Canfield Jedi 29 Review | Blister
The Canfield Jedi is back in it's full high-pivot glory — but now with 29'' wheels, and a lot of other updates. BLISTER | Canfield Jedi 29
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i stand corrected.That's w/o shock.
Canfield Jedi 29 Review | Blister
The Canfield Jedi is back in it's full high-pivot glory — but now with 29'' wheels, and a lot of other updates. BLISTER | Canfield Jedi 29
I think stiffness to weight is still reigning supreme with CF. Whenever I see someone comparing CF rims to alu and the weight is similar, the alu is always "a little narrower", it trues up like a noodle compared to the CF, it's simply extruded aluminum and less material=less stiff, or more material=stiffer, but heavier of course. There are situations where they can be close and it's not practical to make a structure out of CF, like a stem, but the other thing I expect is that the process gets refined and the price comes down, like it did with aluminum manufacture, hydroforming, etc. That **** isn't happening for the most part with CF. There are some exceptions, like buying a few bits direct, but when a CF frame costs $3999 and the equivalent aluminum is around half of that, then yeah, I have to start wondering. The benefits go down significantly when the cost is out of control IMO. Like original Envy wheels for $2500 or whatever. Hard pass.
19mm of total rearward axle path, but then the article states that 16mm of that is used just getting to the sag point. Doesn't leave much for smashing into rocks.
If Alu could get within 100-150 grams of each other for a frame, I’d be a retro convert. But it’s hard to actually find honestly weighed specs between the two.
Indeed, I saw that too at the Blister review.
They’re back…
Singlespeed, highpivot steel DH
I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but boy that thing is epically fugly.
It seems complicated .. for singlespeed.
Waiting to see if a mullet version will be released.canfield jedi is back as a 29'er. actually looks pretty good, prices aren't totally insane.
JEDI 29 - Downhill Race
JEDI - 29er DH Bike - Downhill MTB | Introducing the Canfield Jedi 29. One of the most revered downhill bikes is back and faster than ever before with 29" wheels.
I'm on the Lithium. The fram is within a lb of carbon bikes in its class. The headtube gussets and clamshell bottom bracket makes for a very stiff bike. Compared to previous Canfield bikes that were a little to a lot flexy. Funny thing is most carbon bikes around my way are outfitted with NX or SLX drivetrain and heavycomponents. My bike is the same weight or lighter.
i concur; i think it's hot. would be a sick daily park slayer.
i ran my old brooklyn tmx like this for a bit. dead silent drivetrain (on an already quiet bike; no reverberation with the stovepipe steel tubes) was rad.
There's got to be some production breakthroughs in the pipeline though for CF with something like 3D printed molds that allow you to relatively rapidly prototype and change things up, as compared to jigging and all of that aluminum welding stuff.
Will there be a limit as to how light an aluminum bike can be? Anyone remember those Trek Sessions with the paper thin down tubes?
With the weight of carbon frames increasing a little, I think we've already seen this happen to them, maybe? You can only go so light before things start to flex and twist or move forces to other parts of the frame, before things start to crack and become malformed over time.
The Transition Scout carbon frame is a good example. The size large 2017 version weighed 6.2lbs. The size medium 2020 version weighs 7.05lbs.
I wonder why they increased the weight so much?
I had the 2017 version and it ended up cracking around the bottom bracket and had what looked like many other small micro cracks else where...
With the weight of carbon frames increasing a little, I think we've already seen this happen to them, maybe? You can only go so light before things start to flex and twist or move forces to other parts of the frame, before things start to crack and become malformed over time.
The Transition Scout carbon frame is a good example. The size large 2017 version weighed 6.2lbs. The size medium 2020 version weighs 7.05lbs.
I wonder why they increased the weight so much?
I had the 2017 version and it ended up cracking around the bottom bracket and had what looked like many other small micro cracks else where...
The reason for that flex was not the triangles though, it was the design of the links.
I've ridden a balance and it was a little flexy (compared to carbon) Nothing like the Riot thought. The clamshell designed BB area and bridge on the seatstay along with the the one piece upper link. The Lithium is quite stiff.
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I think the geo on modern trailbikes has necessitated weight increases though too. The leverage from a big single crown on a 64deg HTA must be very different from a 67deg from a few years ago.Will there be a limit as to how light an aluminum bike can be? Anyone remember those Trek Sessions with the paper thin down tubes?
With the weight of carbon frames increasing a little, I think we've already seen this happen to them, maybe? You can only go so light before things start to flex and twist or move forces to other parts of the frame, before things start to crack and become malformed over time.
The Transition Scout carbon frame is a good example. The size large 2017 version weighed 6.2lbs. The size medium 2020 version weighs 7.05lbs.
I wonder why they increased the weight so much?
I had the 2017 version and it ended up cracking around the bottom bracket and had what looked like many other small micro cracks else where...
