[jackalope]

New RSD Wildcat has been announced at $1800USD-
View attachment 168596

Thats certainly a good deal, although I think he saying $2,300 (or even $2,600) for a legit DH frame is a steal these days.

I think the geo on modern trailbikes has necessitated weight increases though too. The leverage from a big single crown on a 64deg HTA must be very different from a 67deg from a few years ago.

Definitely agree. With the aggressive geometry and generally good suspension designs that most trail or downward sloping terrain bikes have now, they are asking to be treated like park bikes, but the frame weighs 5 lbs. Definitely want to make sure you have really good long term disability insurance.

 

[Westy]

I think the geo on modern trailbikes has necessitated weight increases though too. The leverage from a big single crown on a 64deg HTA must be very different from a 67deg from a few years ago.

And there is just a lot more bike in a modern bike. Long reaches require longer tubes which need to be larger to maintain rigidity.

 

[buckoW]

And there is just a lot more bike in a modern bike. Long reaches require longer tubes which need to be larger to maintain rigidity.

There is also a trend to accept heavy frames thinking they are stronger however it is easier and faster to optimize a structure less…. You’re in manufacturing right? Overbuild if the timelines are tight, right?

Only as strong as the weakest link.

 

[jonKranked]

There is also a trend to accept heavy frames thinking they are stronger however it is easier and faster to optimize a structure less…. You’re in manufacturing right? Overbuild if the timelines are tight, right?

Only as strong as the weakest link.

Not sure if I'd necessarily say overbuild in tight timelines, just less time to optimize things.

 

[Jm_]

Jedi frames are fare more complicated to assemble/weld than any trail frame or probably any production DH frame. There is a lot going on in there and numbers aren't huge, so that pricepoint is impressive these days.

 

[Jm_]

And there is just a lot more bike in a modern bike. Long reaches require longer tubes which need to be larger to maintain rigidity.

Wow, two tubes are an inch longer, what does that add to the cost, at least $600?

 

[Westy]

Wow, two tubes are an inch longer, what does that add to the cost, at least $600?

Holy shit, never even considered that. I mean everything else costs the same as it did in 2006 so this clearly is a bike only thing.

 

[HardtailHack]

Thats certainly a good deal, although I think he saying $2,300 (or even $2,600) for a legit DH frame is a steal these days.

Actually, that seems to be not such a good deal, the old frame was $1300USD and it had cables where they belong.
Maybe I will have to order a V2 before they are gone.

 

[Sandwich]

neon yellow too....

don't want anything to do with SID suspension though.

 

[toodles]

neon yellow too....

don't want anything to do with SID suspension though.

Be kind of in the league of the Spur and new RM Element i guess. But crazy pricing for the lot of em these days.

 

[iRider]

 

[vivisectxi]

no bottle / no care

 

[aenema]

I have the new SID fork on my Revel Ranger and only about 100 miles on it but I am dang impressed. It's not just good for what it is, its plain good.

 

[HAB]

More info please.

 

[Olly]

More info please.

Reichmann Engineering SENDuro – EMRG

emrg.bike

 

[jstuhlman]

all ur links r belong to them. take a seat, knolly.

 

[rideit]

I’m callin’ that bike Jimmy Dean, on account of how many links are on there!

 

[Trekrules]

The new Darkmatter

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/first-look-antidote-darkmatter-29-is-still-the-pagani-of-mountain-bikes.html

 

[jonKranked]

Stevie Smith wants his Wilson back


#longlivechainsaw

 

[6thElement]

I thought we'd established from shock Tuesday talk thingy that shock yokes are bad m'kay?

 

[sethimus]

I thought we'd established from shock Tuesday talk thingy that shock yokes are bad m'kay?

only true if the shock isn’t mounted backwards?

 

[slimshady]

only true if the shock isn’t mounted backwards?

Since when do shocks have forward and backwards orientation?

 

[6thElement]

Since when do shocks have forward and backwards orientation?

You're south of the equator, so you need to make sure they're backwards, not forwards.

 

[Westy]

I thought we'd established from shock Tuesday talk thingy that shock yokes are bad m'kay?

My old single pivot Santa Cruz used to burn through shock bushings in a month and a shock body about every year. The 3 year old pivot bushings on my yoked Ibis are original and still in good shape. I think rigidity and alignment are just as important than the design architecture, that being said a yoke will make that process tougher.

 

[johnbryanpeters]

All mi bikes prior to the Tracer ate shock bushings really fast. The Tracer seems to do so much more slowly.

 

[StiHacka]

first-look-antidote-darkmatter-29-is-still-the-pagani-of-mountain-bikes

Dafuq does that even mean? Annoying hissing of turbos when changing gears?

 

[Westy]

Dafuq does that even mean? Annoying hissing of turbos when changing gears?

The Pagani of Polish mountain bikes. So the hissing of steam from Pierogis when you shift.

 

[StiHacka]

The Pagani of Polish mountain bikes. So the hissing of steam from Pierogis when you shift.

Sounds more like Aunt Jemima.

 

[iRider]

All mi bikes prior to the Tracer ate shock bushings really fast. The Tracer seems to do so much more slowly.

See what a little misalignment can do for you.

 

[Redwood Mulch Chucker]

The new Darkmatter

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/first-look-antidote-darkmatter-29-is-still-the-pagani-of-mountain-bikes.html

Look at that leverage ratio, holy end stroke progression Batman!
39% total, with almost 23% in the last 50mm of travel. Huck to flat special.

 

[buckoW]

It probably rides like it has 10mm less travel.

 

[HAB]

It probably rides like it has 10mm less travel.

Yeah, you're not getting to that last bit with a setup that's reasonable for everything that happens before it.

 

[HardtailHack]

But it will feel bottomless, and that is what the people crave.

 

[Redwood Mulch Chucker]

More like it will ramp up so hard you think you bottomed.

 

[iRider]

The 951 called and wants its end stroke progession back.
@bullcrew , your new bike right there.

 

[Inclag]

The 951 called and wants its end stroke progession back.
@bullcrew , your new bike right there.

Ha. Sniped.

 

[bullcrew]

The 951 called and wants its end stroke progession back.
@bullcrew , your new bike right there.

I know it called I bought another one

 

[toodles]

Yeah, you're not getting to that last bit with a setup that's reasonable for everything that happens before it.

Break glass in case of emergency travel

 

[Andeh]

I know it called I bought another oneView attachment 170061

That's what, the second old frame you've bought in last few months? Why keep buying old small bikes instead of getting one new long one?

 

[bullcrew]

That's what, the second old frame you've bought in last few months? Why keep buying old small bikes instead of getting one new long one?

I like the way they ride besides price was right...
I looked around and for now I like the way they ride and have spare parts of one breaks.
I was going to ace the m9 but after running it at summit mullet set up...hell I'd have a hard time catching me..love that bike.

Going to play with the 951 and a different set up...love the way the Evo rides but ha is too slack...so I'll dial it back.

I'll eventually move to a frame newer than 2015, I rode a couple bikes buddy has at shop and 1 I loved (dreadnaught) but flexxed the ass more than yoga pants on a fat woman..was all over tire eating sides I'd it weren't for that I could see running it...asked hunter to address that with them, love the bike but would kill that rear end.