Honestly, it's pretty obvious! Can't you see that they are both now made to be installed without crowns ? I don't recall any other company doing this. Except maybe Fox when looking at the latest pit bits... Also, more easy clues : both have black stanchions and white decals.
They are both black. Obviously only Sun Tour can make black forks.
The part that is similar to Curries 3VO is the forward location of the lower short link. The reward part of the link is mounted to the frame and the rear triangle mounted on the forward end. At sag and into the travel the IC is going to be behind the BB and moves further rearward and upward.
Agreed, I see what you mean. I thought the thing special with the 3VO design was the double linkage at the upper link.The part that is similar to Curries 3VO is the forward location of the lower short link. The reward part of the link is mounted to the frame and the rear triangle mounted on the forward end. At sag and into the travel the IC is going to be behind the BB and moves further rearward and upward.
This concept is different than other short link VPP designs that have the forward portion of the lower short link mounted to the frame. These have an IC in front of the bb and it tends to move lower and back towards the bb.
Yoke and upper rocker are LR tuning and packaging.
They're both prototyping zero crown forks, duh.
Yeah they used to be crazy short. I test rode a few back in 2017/18 and was going to buy the Large and cut down the seat tube. A few of their team riders did the same thing, but I decided I didn't want the warranty hassle and went elsewhere.
Looks like they are trying to get on the supercaliber bandwagon, deliver a hardtail-like power-transfer through a means different than the supercaliber patent. At least it appears to use a normal shock, that's good.
They're actually copying the Switch Infinity but with simpler, non-kashima stanchions. Zoceli did something more like the Yeti rails last year.They are copying some of Yeti's old homework. Yeti 303-SS proto from 2008.
Why? To have more seal/bearing-drag and over-damped shocks?
Lower leverage ratio magnifies bearing and seal drag. High leverage ratio minimizes it. The drag is "fixed", but when you change LR, you either end up with your leverage closer to this number, or further away. The closer to it, the more it will affect the bike, basically adding non-adjustable damping. IME, this along with the inherent necessity for lighter damping creates some crazy over-damped stuff at these lower LRs, some of it can be controlled, some of it is not.
All aftermarket shocks except custom ones are M/M as far as I've ever found. The idea that there's a service center next door or that this is a normal procedure for anyone buying a shock is fairly uncommon IME. This is an area where the industry flat out sucks. They should be offering the tune you need with the shock or some way to easily achieve it, but 99% of the time, this is not the case. The industry doesn't give a F about aftermarket, save for some aftermarket tuners that actually do.
Some kind of split-pivot based linkage?
Except for the yoke.
It's a BH, they license Split Pivot from DW.
Sure, but at least it's short...?
Yes, more than one at more than one company. Why this is happening? I couldn’t tell you.
Got to be some weird level of FOMO, "Well they've done it, so we should do it too!"
That headset can’t be cheaper. I think it’s purely for aesthetics. The side on photos in a catalog?
